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Game 43: Pistons (10-32) @ Warriors (31-12) - Jan. 18 10:00 PM EST

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Re: Game 43: Pistons (10-32) @ Warriors (31-12) - Jan. 18 10:00 PM EST 

Post#81 » by DetroitSho » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:20 pm

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You really had that parlay? I didn't know you could even have that many legs in one game. Were they all props?
Yeah you can go up to 25 legs. You can combine the spread, points, rebounds, assists, 3 pointers, etc to make up the parlay.

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Wow, what a terrible beat. Feel for ya. I'm kinda surprised it was set as low as 6 for KAT. He must not be much of a rebounder. Even still, that's probably not one of the legs you were too worried about going in. Nice job getting the other 14, anyway.
It was literally the last one I was worried about. That was a done deal I thought.

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Re: Game 43: Pistons (10-32) @ Warriors (31-12) - Jan. 18 10:00 PM EST 

Post#82 » by edmunder_prc » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:02 pm

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Manocad wrote:So now Bey is 0-5 for 0 and Stew is 5-6 for 10. You were saying?



Yeah I was saying Hayes and Stewart were intentionally unguarded. So Stewart put up 14 points with no one guarding him outside 10ft from the basket.

If I were a coach of a team facing the Pistons I would try the same thing. Guard Cade and Bey, try to double them, keep them from getting the ball. Sag off everyone else and have the Pistons shoot.

4 out of 5 games this will kill the Pistons. GSW didnt shoot well - 41% overall and 33% from 3. Pistons defense wasn't anything special. It was an off night for GSW and simple defensive scheme - easy win.

Did you actually watch the game? Stew put up 14 on 7-10 and I every point I saw him score was in the paint although admittedly I only watched the first half. But that included 5 of those 7 makes.

The Pistons have issues without a doubt and Stew's offensive deficiencies are one of them but this game wasn't an example of that. Especially the way you described it, as though Stew was knocking down unguarded outside jumpers. And even if he were, that would obviously be counter to your criticism that leaving him unguarded hurts the Pistons because it didn't being that he shot 70%. So if you're going to claim "Well, that's because Golden State took it easy on him" then you're contradicting your own argument.

It's ok. Everyone gets a little egg on their face once in a while.


Nope, no egg on my face.

There are 5 guys on the other team. Usually, against teams that have 5 good players, they have to follow them around the court, its hard work. Against the Pistons with Hayes and Stewart, they dont. Stewart had a couple baskets in the first half it didnt look like anyone even followed him down the court and he made some layups. Problem is: 14 points doesnt win a game.

Those other 2 guys who weren't paying any attention to Stewart and Hayes, they were harassing Cade and Bey. Guys that could score points. Looney just wandered around, he didnt care about Stewart at all. Hayes and Curry were matched up early (when Hayes was in the game) and Curry is GSW's worst defender.

So again - Yeah Stewart ran around and no one on GSW paid him much attention - he had a huge game with 14 points and the Pistons lost big against the GSW even when they were shooting much worse than usual.

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Re: Game 43: Pistons (10-32) @ Warriors (31-12) - Jan. 18 10:00 PM EST 

Post#83 » by Manocad » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:34 pm

edmunder_prc wrote:
Manocad wrote:
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Yeah I was saying Hayes and Stewart were intentionally unguarded. So Stewart put up 14 points with no one guarding him outside 10ft from the basket.

If I were a coach of a team facing the Pistons I would try the same thing. Guard Cade and Bey, try to double them, keep them from getting the ball. Sag off everyone else and have the Pistons shoot.

4 out of 5 games this will kill the Pistons. GSW didnt shoot well - 41% overall and 33% from 3. Pistons defense wasn't anything special. It was an off night for GSW and simple defensive scheme - easy win.

Did you actually watch the game? Stew put up 14 on 7-10 and I every point I saw him score was in the paint although admittedly I only watched the first half. But that included 5 of those 7 makes.

The Pistons have issues without a doubt and Stew's offensive deficiencies are one of them but this game wasn't an example of that. Especially the way you described it, as though Stew was knocking down unguarded outside jumpers. And even if he were, that would obviously be counter to your criticism that leaving him unguarded hurts the Pistons because it didn't being that he shot 70%. So if you're going to claim "Well, that's because Golden State took it easy on him" then you're contradicting your own argument.

It's ok. Everyone gets a little egg on their face once in a while.


Nope, no egg on my face.

There are 5 guys on the other team. Usually, against teams that have 5 good players, they have to follow them around the court, its hard work. Against the Pistons with Hayes and Stewart, they dont. Stewart had a couple baskets in the first half it didnt look like anyone even followed him down the court and he made some layups. Problem is: 14 points doesnt win a game.

Those other 2 guys who weren't paying any attention to Stewart and Hayes, they were harassing Cade and Bey. Guys that could score points. Looney just wandered around, he didnt care about Stewart at all. Hayes and Curry were matched up early (when Hayes was in the game) and Curry is GSW's worst defender.

So again - Yeah Stewart ran around and no one on GSW paid him much attention - he had a huge game with 14 points and the Pistons lost big against the GSW even when they were shooting much worse than usual.

Are we winning yet?

So Stewart is so lacking offensively that no one has to pay attention to him because he can’t score, so when he does score it’s because no one paid attention to him…

…because he can’t score.

Let's review...

Cade averages 15.4 PPG
Bey averages 14.9 PPG
Stew averages 7.7 PPG
Total - 38 PPG

This game:
Cade 8 pts
Bey 10 pts
Stew 14 pts
Total - 32 pts

And the problem is Stew, the guy who scored 6.3 points over his average.

Yep. Still some egg there.
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Re: Game 43: Pistons (10-32) @ Warriors (31-12) - Jan. 18 10:00 PM EST 

Post#84 » by Sofia » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:44 am

Phew I had a few hundred bucks on the Warriors -15.5.

Close finish, had me on the edge of my couches.
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Re: Game 43: Pistons (10-32) @ Warriors (31-12) - Jan. 18 10:00 PM EST 

Post#85 » by DetroitSho » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:07 pm

Some thoughts from last night:

If you've ever questioned why teams sign older veterans who don't figure into a young team's plans, I introduce to you Rodney McGruder. Rodney is a limited basketball player, the essential "he is what he is" guy. But he literally hasn't had a bad game for the Pistons. There's something to be said for when absolutely nothing is working on the court, a coach can look down at the end of the bench and call a dude that hasn't played in a couple weeks and get some good minutes out of him.

Dude literally just got traded and then came right back, didn't trip or complain but just went out and did what the coach asked. I think you have to be in leadership to really understand signings like McGruder and such. It's really made me start to rethink my disdain for Joseph. If you really think about, you'd realize you don't really hate Joseph, you hate Casey overplaying him and playing him over young guys. The difference between the two is McGruder is appropriately played as the 5th/6th guard, last result when we need to buy some minutes, and Joseph is played like some big minute guy we have to lean on.

McGruder comes in in short minutes and plays consistently decent every time and never wets the bed, while Joseph is just as up and down as the young guys he's supposed to be steadying. So when McGruder has a solid 12 minutes and Joseph is having one of his down games and still gets 22 minutes, we're going to get the pitchforks out.

It's not going to happen but Joseph needs to be played like McGruder, very sparingly and only as needed. But since it won't happen we'll never be able to appreciate the need for these types of guys on the roster.

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Re: Game 43: Pistons (10-32) @ Warriors (31-12) - Jan. 18 10:00 PM EST 

Post#86 » by 440BB » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:12 pm

I've always rooted for Rodney after he stood up for Ellington with the Warriors last season. A teammate that's got your back is invaluable. Rodney's renaissance and presence might do more for the youngsters than Bol Bol could when healthy. A role player that stays ready and stays in his lane is a good example for a number of our young future bench players.

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