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Game 48: Pistons (11-36) @ Magic (9-40) - Jan. 28 7:00 PM EST

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Re: Game 48: Pistons (11-36) @ Magic (9-40) - Jan. 28 7:00 PM EST 

Post#101 » by Manocad » Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:55 pm

breezypeezy wrote:Echoing the NO BUYERS REMORSE comments on Cade.
There was never a rule in this draft that both Cade and Evan couldn't be future greats, great for Cleveland they got a good one.
But I think Detroit can add our quality big man to compliment Cade, we need both not just an either or, and that's likely after the next draft.

Yep. Look at it this way--god forbid anyone give credit to Weaver for having some foresight but there are a lot more players similar to Mobley in this draft than there similar to Cade. There is no Cade in this draft.

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Re: Game 48: Pistons (11-36) @ Magic (9-40) - Jan. 28 7:00 PM EST 

Post#102 » by Manocad » Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:58 pm

Snakebites wrote:We definitely need a player like Evan Mobley. But we also really needed a player like Cade.

And neither are easy to find. Both would have been perfectly fine picks. If I'm Houston I'm looking at Mobley with some remorse though.

No doubt about that one.
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Re: Game 48: Pistons (11-36) @ Magic (9-40) - Jan. 28 7:00 PM EST 

Post#103 » by DBC10 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:50 pm

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PrimeThyme wrote:How are fans feeling about Cade amongst the Fanbase?

Personally, I'd be ecstatic. Saying they should have selected Cade over Mobley is revisionist history, Imo. Now, If I was Houston, I'd be sweating absolute bullets. That was close at the time and even I thought he should have been the pick at 2. && now I'm not sure if there's anyone even in the Houston fanbase who would be deluded enough to argue he shouldn't have been the selection there.

That's a potential franchise-altering miss. Cade, on the other hand, looks like a pretty solidified future top 25 player to me. Even if I do prefer Mobley long-term.


Green still has time as a 2nd pick in a team that is being rebuilt. But yes, them missing out on Mobley might be one of those situations of not picking Luka when he was available like the Kings did

We have extremely high hopes on Cade, far higher than anyone in the last 15 years or so and majority of us are content with him around even if he struggles at times to string consistent handful of games

I'd say that comparing two players after 48 games, especially how Cade and Mobley stack up against each other statistically, is waaaaaaaay too early to say that the Pistons "missed out" on Mobley. Mobley had the luck of going to a team that had another player who complements him perfectly; Cade doesn't have that. Put any player on the Pistons who was enough of a consistent scoring threat that defenses couldn't just collapse on Cade every time he had the ball and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Look at it this way--take Cade off the Pistons roster and plug in Mobley. Are the Pistons significantly better off? Like I keep saying, Cade is the type of player the Pistons needed. They had ZERO leadership and no identity. The identity is still being developed obviously but they clearly have the leadership they desperately needed. Mobley certainly provides identity given what he's doing on the defensive end paired with Allen but is he providing leadership?

And in reality all it takes is one serious Mobley injury and no one will be saying the Pistons "missed out" by not drafting him; they'll be thanking their lucky stars. Now obviously that has nothing to do with which player the Pistons would be better suited having in the long term in regard to which player is better, but that certainly affects perspective.


I see what your saying, but if you re-read my post, I said "them" in context of Houston and picking 2nd with Green instead of Mobley, not the Pistons missing out. They missed out due to Wood and drafting Sengun, not us. As an NBA junkie, I'm very high on Mobley for easy reasons but Cade is what we needed and have maintained that stance since the beginning
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Re: Game 48: Pistons (11-36) @ Magic (9-40) - Jan. 28 7:00 PM EST 

Post#104 » by Kalamazoo317 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:14 pm

Snakebites wrote:We definitely need a player like Evan Mobley. But we also really needed a player like Cade.

And neither are easy to find. Both would have been perfectly fine picks. If I'm Houston I'm looking at Mobley with some remorse though.


It cracks me up that Bill Simmons has this take that point guard is the easiest position to fill in the NBA so Mobley is much more valuable than Cade (though Bill has started to come around on Cade more recently). The irony, of course, is that the lack of a real point guard is the biggest issue on the Celtics right now.
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Re: Game 48: Pistons (11-36) @ Magic (9-40) - Jan. 28 7:00 PM EST 

Post#105 » by Manocad » Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:37 pm

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Green still has time as a 2nd pick in a team that is being rebuilt. But yes, them missing out on Mobley might be one of those situations of not picking Luka when he was available like the Kings did

We have extremely high hopes on Cade, far higher than anyone in the last 15 years or so and majority of us are content with him around even if he struggles at times to string consistent handful of games

I'd say that comparing two players after 48 games, especially how Cade and Mobley stack up against each other statistically, is waaaaaaaay too early to say that the Pistons "missed out" on Mobley. Mobley had the luck of going to a team that had another player who complements him perfectly; Cade doesn't have that. Put any player on the Pistons who was enough of a consistent scoring threat that defenses couldn't just collapse on Cade every time he had the ball and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Look at it this way--take Cade off the Pistons roster and plug in Mobley. Are the Pistons significantly better off? Like I keep saying, Cade is the type of player the Pistons needed. They had ZERO leadership and no identity. The identity is still being developed obviously but they clearly have the leadership they desperately needed. Mobley certainly provides identity given what he's doing on the defensive end paired with Allen but is he providing leadership?

And in reality all it takes is one serious Mobley injury and no one will be saying the Pistons "missed out" by not drafting him; they'll be thanking their lucky stars. Now obviously that has nothing to do with which player the Pistons would be better suited having in the long term in regard to which player is better, but that certainly affects perspective.


I see what your saying, but if you re-read my post, I said "them" in context of Houston and picking 2nd with Green instead of Mobley, not the Pistons missing out. They missed out due to Wood and drafting Sengun, not us. As an NBA junkie, I'm very high on Mobley for easy reasons but Cade is what we needed and have maintained that stance since the beginning

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