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Re: 2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft 

Post#101 » by buzzkilloton » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:09 am

Han Solo wrote:Man.. Hayes is getting bashed into the ground on the GB. Hope we didn’t **** that pick up.


I mean I wouldnt worry about it to much. This was always a weak draft. Most guys drafted outside the top 3 are busts in any draft. So we took the high upside pick with Hayes over Haliburton. It was always a likely chance he was a bust.

That said he was the right pick. Also its only been a few games he could turn it around. If hes a bust which happens often we just move on. I think its going to take us 3 years or so to be where we want to be regardless.
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Post#102 » by detroitKG » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:15 am

Well said Buzz! You summed it up nicely for me..plus its the GB I wouldn't put too much into what is said that side of the forums.
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Post#103 » by edmunder_prc » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:23 am

MotownMadness wrote:Do we have the Raptors 2and rounder this year? I noticed Tankathon has us picking at the 32nd pick this year.



It looks that way. Pistons 2021 2nd rounder was traded to Knicks, but Pistons own Raptors.


Sucks we traded out 2nd round picks in 2024, 2025, 2026 to LAC. If we arent in the Eastern Conference Finals thats going to hurt.
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Post#104 » by The Moose » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:28 am

I think I would take Mobley if we had the 1st pick
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Post#105 » by tmorgan » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:53 am

If we’re lucky enough to have the first pick and no prospect really, really separates himself, the smart move will be to trade down slightly. We may need everything, and in a draft like this, a 9 plus an 8 may actually be better than a 10, given that no one is entirely sure of the numbers.
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Post#106 » by DetroitSho » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:04 am

tmorgan wrote:If we’re lucky enough to have the first pick and no prospect really, really separates himself, the smart move will be to trade down slightly. We may need everything, and in a draft like this, a 9 plus an 8 may actually be better than a 10, given that no one is entirely sure of the numbers.
I'd rather have LeBron over Bosh AND Wade together. Not that there's a LeBron here but I'm taking the 10 everytime.

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Post#107 » by tmorgan » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:07 pm

DetroitSho wrote:
tmorgan wrote:If we’re lucky enough to have the first pick and no prospect really, really separates himself, the smart move will be to trade down slightly. We may need everything, and in a draft like this, a 9 plus an 8 may actually be better than a 10, given that no one is entirely sure of the numbers.
I'd rather have LeBron over Bosh AND together. Not that there's a LeBron here but I'm taking the 10 everytime.

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As would I, but that wasn’t my premise. LeBron (or someone similar) would certainly separate themselves from the pack. This is if no one does. If you’re guessing who ends up the best player among five potential stars, and you don’t really have a strong preference, you drop down 1-4 spots and pick up a premium pick or other asset.
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Post#108 » by MotownMadness » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:52 pm

tmorgan wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
tmorgan wrote:If we’re lucky enough to have the first pick and no prospect really, really separates himself, the smart move will be to trade down slightly. We may need everything, and in a draft like this, a 9 plus an 8 may actually be better than a 10, given that no one is entirely sure of the numbers.
I'd rather have LeBron over Bosh AND together. Not that there's a LeBron here but I'm taking the 10 everytime.

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As would I, but that wasn’t my premise. LeBron (or someone similar) would certainly separate themselves from the pack. This is if no one does. If you’re guessing who ends up the best player among five potential stars, and you don’t really have a strong preference, you drop down 1-4 spots and pick up a premium pick or other asset.

Kinda feel like Cade, Suggs and Mobley have separated themselves at the top since we haven't seen much of Green or Kuminga.

I dont think we can afford a bust this year, we gotta get it right this year with a franchise type guy.
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Post#109 » by MotownMadness » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:53 pm

The Moose wrote:I think I would take Mobley if we had the 1st pick

He looks awesome
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Post#110 » by flow » Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:06 pm

buzzkilloton wrote:
Han Solo wrote:Man.. Hayes is getting bashed into the ground on the GB. Hope we didn’t **** that pick up.


I mean I wouldnt worry about it to much. This was always a weak draft. Most guys drafted outside the top 3 are busts in any draft. So we took the high upside pick with Hayes over Haliburton. It was always a likely chance he was a bust.

That said he was the right pick. Also its only been a few games he could turn it around. If hes a bust which happens often we just move on. I think its going to take us 3 years or so to be where we want to be regardless.


Yes, it was a weak draft. But no, it was never considered likely by anyone that the 7th pick could be a bust.

And it's still unlikely. That being said, it's impossible to watch how Haliburton's been playing in his first 5 games and conclude that Hayes was the right pick. He still could be, but that's pure hope.


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Re: 2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft 

Post#111 » by buzzkilloton » Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:39 pm

flow wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
Han Solo wrote:Man.. Hayes is getting bashed into the ground on the GB. Hope we didn’t **** that pick up.


I mean I wouldnt worry about it to much. This was always a weak draft. Most guys drafted outside the top 3 are busts in any draft. So we took the high upside pick with Hayes over Haliburton. It was always a likely chance he was a bust.

That said he was the right pick. Also its only been a few games he could turn it around. If hes a bust which happens often we just move on. I think its going to take us 3 years or so to be where we want to be regardless.


Yes, it was a weak draft. But no, it was never considered likely by anyone that the 7th pick could be a bust.

And it's still unlikely. That being said, it's impossible to watch how Haliburton's been playing in his first 5 games and conclude that Hayes was the right pick. He still could be, but that's pure hope.


* (Incidentally, I just noticed that my posts & 'and1's' are both sitting on round numbers now. That's got to be uncommon. Should I run out & play the lottery?)

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Go look at the 6-9 picks through the nba drafts over the past 10 years. You will see more misses then hits. Its the nature of the draft. Add in the fact this was considered a weak draft it makes it even more likely a picks a miss.
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Post#112 » by MotownMadness » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:27 pm

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Post#113 » by topsearch92 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:10 pm

I feel like Evan Mobley is what Andre Drummond wishes he could be with his hooks, dribbling and passing.
Cade Cunningham seems crafty/intelligent over elite athleticism with his impact.
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Post#114 » by rmfc » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:22 pm

topsearch92 wrote:I feel like Evan Mobley is what Andre Drummond wishes he could be with his hooks, dribbling and passing.
Cade Cunningham seems crafty/intelligent over elite athleticism with his impact.


From the very little I'd watched, Cade looks to have a CP3 type game while Suggs looks to possess Damian Lillard type game.
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Post#115 » by vic » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:51 pm

I like Evan at 1 just because his game has no weaknesses and if you want a championship you have to go thru Anthony Davis/Nikola Jokic/Giannis for the next 8 or so years.

Plus I think he will open so many passing lanes for Killian/Josh.

I'll take Cade also because even though hes not an elite athlete, I think the floor game will open up for him at NBA level.

Suggs is amazing but I dont see small guards leading teams to championships. I'll take my chances with Killian/Josh/Cade
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Post#116 » by detroitKG » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:14 pm

I feel like as long as we get one of Mobley, Cunningham, or Suggs we're going to be in a good spot. I like Mobley as the swing for the fences pick because his potential is unicorn like as a big that can do all that. Cade seems like the sure thing in the top part of the draft. So much of his game will translate at the NBA level even without Elite athleticism. Suggs is a wildcard and coulb be so many different things in the NBA. I think we would be incredibly lucky to get any one of the three for this young core moving forward.
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Post#117 » by MotownMadness » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:00 pm

Looks like Mobley will be playing at 10pm on ESPN
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Re: 2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft 

Post#118 » by buzzkilloton » Fri Jan 1, 2021 5:27 am

MotownMadness wrote:Looks like Mobley will be playing at 10pm on ESPN


Yeah I watched it. First time I caught him live wasnt all that impressed TODAY. Just one game of course. He looked good in youtube videos I seen.

I can't wait to see the Gleague players personally. Green was the 1 or 2 recruit depending on where you look and Kuminga was 4 everywhere. Nix and Todd are also considered top 20 prospects. Easy to get geeked up about the guys we're seeing play now but the best guys might not even be out there yet.
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Post#119 » by Han Solo » Fri Jan 1, 2021 2:47 pm

Green looks like Kobe did when he was young. Before this year he was my favorite prospect. I’m not giving up on him. I think if he were in college, he’d look as good as Suggs at least attacking the basket.

Green is a violent finisher around the rim. That’s his main Kobe comparison.

He just looks like he’s going to be an NBA star. That’s why if we drop to the 4th pick or something I won’t be too sad about it. If we miss out on the “new” big three, Green would be a prospect with a chance at super stardom too.

I do get that Cade, Suggs, and Mobley are probably safer now though.
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Post#120 » by Han Solo » Fri Jan 1, 2021 2:49 pm

How far can you drop in the draft if you’re the worst team in the league?

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