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The Trade Thread - v2

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Re: The Trade Thread - v2 

Post#1021 » by jakebernat » Thu Dec 4, 2014 11:49 pm

russkopp wrote:
Canadafan wrote:How about GSW? Barnes for Monroe straight up?


That team is doing NOTHING that involves their core. With David Lee coming back they don't need Moose. If anyone goes it's Iggy because they'll need the money to sign Draymond Green


that's a good point, maybe we can buy low on iggy??

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k3v64cq

the warriors get two expiring contracts for iggy, allowing them to lock up draymond and possibly go after other key FA's in the offseason that better fit their roster.

the kings finally are able to give up scraps for smith in an effort to make a playoff run.

we get a legitimate starting SF who, at least these days, can space the court a bit, play extremely intelligent and unselfish basketball, and lock up opposing SF's on a daily basis. also, landry gives us a very good 3rd big and mccallum gives us a hungry young PG who can battle DJ for minutes at the backup PG.
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Re: The Trade Thread - v2 

Post#1022 » by MotownMadness » Fri Dec 5, 2014 12:27 am

jakebernat wrote:
russkopp wrote:
Canadafan wrote:How about GSW? Barnes for Monroe straight up?


That team is doing NOTHING that involves their core. With David Lee coming back they don't need Moose. If anyone goes it's Iggy because they'll need the money to sign Draymond Green


that's a good point, maybe we can buy low on iggy??

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k3v64cq

the warriors get two expiring contracts for iggy, allowing them to lock up draymond and possibly go after other key FA's in the offseason that better fit their roster.

the kings finally are able to give up scraps for smith in an effort to make a playoff run.

we get a legitimate starting SF who, at least these days, can space the court a bit, play extremely intelligent and unselfish basketball, and lock up opposing SF's on a daily basis. also, landry gives us a very good 3rd big and mccallum gives us a hungry young PG who can battle DJ for minutes at the backup PG.

Thats actually a pretty nice trade idea you thought up. Dont know if Sacramento would still want Smith though.
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Re: The Trade Thread - v2 

Post#1023 » by mus123 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 1:10 am

First Josh for Lance + whoever (Dummy for dummy trade)
Second Monroe and Singer/Barnes Lee (GS gets a nice post up big man)
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Re: The Trade Thread - v2 

Post#1024 » by Canadafan » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:54 am

Soooo. Really? Jeff Green isn't better than Singler? I'd take him in a heart beat
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Post#1025 » by Pharaoh » Fri Dec 5, 2014 11:40 am

One could argue we don't need to trade...maybe it's t house e Jack Daniels but:

Dre 33/Monroe 15
Monroe 18/Smith 30
Butler 18/Jonas 14/KCP 16
KCP 14/Meeks 20/Dinwiddie 14
BJ 30/DJ 18

10 Man rotation...develop Dre, KCP & Dinwiddie, allow Smith to rule the secondary unit with Meeks...

Whatever we decide to do we'll suck since JOE DUMARS left this franchise in this position.

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Post#1026 » by NewWolvesOrder » Fri Dec 5, 2014 3:42 pm

T.Young and C.Brewer for Monroe and Jerebko
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Re: The Trade Thread - v2 

Post#1027 » by jakebernat » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:10 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
jakebernat wrote:
russkopp wrote:
That team is doing NOTHING that involves their core. With David Lee coming back they don't need Moose. If anyone goes it's Iggy because they'll need the money to sign Draymond Green


that's a good point, maybe we can buy low on iggy??

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k3v64cq

the warriors get two expiring contracts for iggy, allowing them to lock up draymond and possibly go after other key FA's in the offseason that better fit their roster.

the kings finally are able to give up scraps for smith in an effort to make a playoff run.

we get a legitimate starting SF who, at least these days, can space the court a bit, play extremely intelligent and unselfish basketball, and lock up opposing SF's on a daily basis. also, landry gives us a very good 3rd big and mccallum gives us a hungry young PG who can battle DJ for minutes at the backup PG.

Thats actually a pretty nice trade idea you thought up. Dont know if Sacramento would still want Smith though.

i feel like if anyone is willing to take on the risk of smith, it's sacto lol. he would honestly be a very good fit there. he's got a center who can knock down a midrange jumper in cousins, an up and coming 2-guard who can space the court in mclemore, and a pass first PG in collison who would be able to hit him in his spots.

if we could turn smith into iggy, i'd be floored.
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Post#1028 » by MrBigShot » Fri Dec 5, 2014 6:47 pm

Sacramento is 9-9 sitting at the 9th seed. They have to do something if this keeps up. I don't think that they are content being in this position after picking in the lottery for so many years, and lets face it...Rudy Gay, Cousins, and Darren Collison are playing about as well as they probably ever will at this point. Cousins 24/12, Gay 21/6/4 and Collison 15/7/4. They're getting practically nothing from the PF spot right now.
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Post#1029 » by Kilo » Fri Dec 5, 2014 6:51 pm

Boogie has missed the last handful of games and their SOS has been pretty tough. Not saying that they shouldn't do something, but both of those can buy them some time before they hand is forced by their record/standings placement.
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Post#1030 » by DetroitSho » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:11 pm

Kilo wrote:Boogie has missed the last handful of games and their SOS has been pretty tough. Not saying that they shouldn't do something, but both of those can buy them some time before they hand is forced by their record/standings placement.

Dude you have no time in the West. There's nothing to buy. Yeah their schedule can lighten up over the next couple weeks. But you know what else is gonna happen over that time period? Russ and KD will be getting healthy.
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Post#1031 » by sdballer » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:57 pm

DetroitSho wrote:
Kilo wrote:Boogie has missed the last handful of games and their SOS has been pretty tough. Not saying that they shouldn't do something, but both of those can buy them some time before they hand is forced by their record/standings placement.

Dude you have no time in the West. There's nothing to buy. Yeah their schedule can lighten up over the next couple weeks. But you know what else is gonna happen over that time period? Russ and KD will be getting healthy.


The kings were supposed to be bottom feeders again. They've put together a .500 record in the west against a top 3 toughest SOS while missing key guys over a chunk of that. Even if they miss the playoffs this year, their improvement along with the core guys signed for a couple of years means they aren't going to give up assets or cap space for a low value guy like smith. The pistons are more desperate to trade him than the kings are to acquire him. People need to stop inventing reasons for why teams will make bad deals.
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Re: The Trade Thread - v2 

Post#1032 » by rmfc » Fri Dec 5, 2014 8:52 pm

Turnover_21 wrote:T.Young and C.Brewer for Monroe and Jerebko


No. Not interested in Thad Young/Brewer.
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Post#1033 » by Pharaoh » Sat Dec 6, 2014 11:18 am

Young is expiring, so is Monroe. So is Jerebko.

Why bother?

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Post#1034 » by red96 » Sat Dec 6, 2014 5:03 pm

Hello Pistons fans, I've noticed that Josh Smith is it the most popular guy in town right now. I wanted to get you alls opinion on a Josh Smith deal like this.

Smith, Detroit 2015 1st (protected)for Jason Terry, Kostas Papanikolaou, Isaiah Canaan.

Terry has played very well in Houston this year increasing his value. Even with his improved play the Pistons dont have much need for a vet like Terry. He's real value to this deal is to help match Josh's salary and maybe land Detroit a small bonus. He has an expiring contract and could be flipped to a playoff team for a small asset(2nd or foreign prospect).

Papanikolaou's a rookie from Greece but you'd never guessed by his play. He plays with high energy and hustle with the craftiness of a NBA vet. He has a knack for being at the right place at the right time and already has become a fan favorite in his short tenure.Truthfully, I hate to lose him so soon but the Rockets dont have many large contracts to match for Smith. I doubt Papa will ever be an all-star but he's just scratching the surface of his potential. He has a team option for about 4.7 next year.

Cannan's a stud. In his sophomore year, he's become fearless on the court and can be deadly from 3. His nickname is "cannan ball" because of it. Still on the 2nd year of his rookie deal, his salary is about 800k.

The Pistons get rid of one of the worst contracts in the league, land 2 young rising players, and save millions on next years cap for thier pick next year. Both Papa and Cannan are young enough to grow along side Monroe and Drummond and are signed to nice and nothing contracts. And imo, they have the talent to start fot Detroit this year.
Detroit saves about 7.5 million in capspace after Papa team option (will be picked up). The Pistons re-sign Monroe with ease and still potentially bring in another impact player.

The Pistons pick is the sole motivation and heart of the deal for the Rockets. Top 3 protected next year, unprotected the after if pick isn't given in 2015-16. I can understand if you guys wouldn't want the Pistons to trade the pick. As a Rockets fan I don't see much of anything else that would really interest Houston. I wasn't looking at Houston actually using the pick, but using it as a trade piece for another deal.

Thank for reading.
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Re: The Trade Thread - v2 

Post#1035 » by MotownMadness » Sat Dec 6, 2014 6:19 pm

red96 wrote:Hello Pistons fans, I've noticed that Josh Smith is it the most popular guy in town right now. I wanted to get you alls opinion on a Josh Smith deal like this.

Smith, Detroit 2015 1st (protected)for Jason Terry, Kostas Papanikolaou, Isaiah Canaan.

Terry has played very well in Houston this year increasing his value. Even with his improved play the Pistons dont have much need for a vet like Terry. He's real value to this deal is to help match Josh's salary and maybe land Detroit a small bonus. He has an expiring contract and could be flipped to a playoff team for a small asset(2nd or foreign prospect).

Papanikolaou's a rookie from Greece but you'd never guessed by his play. He plays with high energy and hustle with the craftiness of a NBA vet. He has a knack for being at the right place at the right time and already has become a fan favorite in his short tenure.Truthfully, I hate to lose him so soon but the Rockets dont have many large contracts to match for Smith. I doubt Papa will ever be an all-star but he's just scratching the surface of his potential. He has a team option for about 4.7 next year.

Cannan's a stud. In his sophomore year, he's become fearless on the court and can be deadly from 3. His nickname is "cannan ball" because of it. Still on the 2nd year of his rookie deal, his salary is about 800k.

The Pistons get rid of one of the worst contracts in the league, land 2 young rising players, and save millions on next years cap for thier pick next year. Both Papa and Cannan are young enough to grow along side Monroe and Drummond and are signed to nice and nothing contracts. And imo, they have the talent to start fot Detroit this year.
Detroit saves about 7.5 million in capspace after Papa team option (will be picked up). The Pistons re-sign Monroe with ease and still potentially bring in another impact player.

The Pistons pick is the sole motivation and heart of the deal for the Rockets. Top 3 protected next year, unprotected the after if pick isn't given in 2015-16. I can understand if you guys wouldn't want the Pistons to trade the pick. As a Rockets fan I don't see much of anything else that would really interest Houston. I wasn't looking at Houston actually using the pick, but using it as a trade piece for another deal.

Thank for reading.

Not trading a pick like that
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Re: The Trade Thread - v2 

Post#1036 » by mattao313 » Sat Dec 6, 2014 10:21 pm

red96 wrote:Hello Pistons fans, I've noticed that Josh Smith is it the most popular guy in town right now. I wanted to get you alls opinion on a Josh Smith deal like this.

Smith, Detroit 2015 1st (protected)for Jason Terry, Kostas Papanikolaou, Isaiah Canaan.

Terry has played very well in Houston this year increasing his value. Even with his improved play the Pistons dont have much need for a vet like Terry. He's real value to this deal is to help match Josh's salary and maybe land Detroit a small bonus. He has an expiring contract and could be flipped to a playoff team for a small asset(2nd or foreign prospect).

Papanikolaou's a rookie from Greece but you'd never guessed by his play. He plays with high energy and hustle with the craftiness of a NBA vet. He has a knack for being at the right place at the right time and already has become a fan favorite in his short tenure.Truthfully, I hate to lose him so soon but the Rockets dont have many large contracts to match for Smith. I doubt Papa will ever be an all-star but he's just scratching the surface of his potential. He has a team option for about 4.7 next year.

Cannan's a stud. In his sophomore year, he's become fearless on the court and can be deadly from 3. His nickname is "cannan ball" because of it. Still on the 2nd year of his rookie deal, his salary is about 800k.

The Pistons get rid of one of the worst contracts in the league, land 2 young rising players, and save millions on next years cap for thier pick next year. Both Papa and Cannan are young enough to grow along side Monroe and Drummond and are signed to nice and nothing contracts. And imo, they have the talent to start fot Detroit this year.
Detroit saves about 7.5 million in capspace after Papa team option (will be picked up). The Pistons re-sign Monroe with ease and still potentially bring in another impact player.

The Pistons pick is the sole motivation and heart of the deal for the Rockets. Top 3 protected next year, unprotected the after if pick isn't given in 2015-16. I can understand if you guys wouldn't want the Pistons to trade the pick. As a Rockets fan I don't see much of anything else that would really interest Houston. I wasn't looking at Houston actually using the pick, but using it as a trade piece for another deal.

Thank for reading.


Nah bad trade not going to give up a top pick for two role players and a expiring deal. I would rather keep smith if thats the case.
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Re: The Trade Thread - v2 

Post#1037 » by MrBigShot » Sat Dec 6, 2014 10:39 pm

Yup, bad teams like us trading very valuable picks for anything less than an established star player is how bad teams stay in the lottery.
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Re: The Trade Thread - v2 

Post#1038 » by Efpest85 » Sun Dec 7, 2014 4:38 am

Det out moose jennings smith 2nd Rd pick
no out Anderson asik
sac out Williams Thompson landry

Det in Anderson Williams landry
sac in smith asik
no in moose jennings Thompson 2nd Rd pick
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Post#1039 » by MotownMadness » Sun Dec 7, 2014 4:44 am

Efpest85 wrote:Det out moose jennings smith 2nd Rd pick
no out Anderson asik
sac out Williams Thompson landry

Det in Anderson Williams landry
sac in smith asik
no in moose jennings Thompson 2nd Rd pick

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Post#1040 » by sfballa13 » Sun Dec 7, 2014 4:45 am

Would you guys do

Drummond, Jennings, Smith

for

Lin, Ed Davis, Ellington, Randle, Nash

Lin / Augustin - Dinwiddie
KCP / Meeks
Singler / Martin - Butler
Davis / Jerebko
Monroe / Anthony

Ed Davis starts next to Monroe possibly derailing our tank in the weak East but we should end up with at least a top 10 pick still.

We would have enough money to give big deals to Dragic and Butler while using Monroe's Bird Rights to give him the 5 year max giving us a team of:

Dragic - Augustin
KCP - Meeks
Butler - Martin
Randle - Davis
Monroe - FA
+ Top 10 pick

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