2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft

[flow]

Mobley had 17 pts against Gonzaga, in his last game. Hardly invisible, especially when he was Gonzagas #1 focus on defense.

Did you watch the game or are you reading a stat sheet? Please don't draw conclusions about someone's impact by looking back at a stat sheet. Every Pistons fan, having experienced 8.5 seasons of Andre Drummond, should know better than to do that.

Mobley was completely invisible in the Gonzaga game (& the one before it). They were the quietest 17 points ever seen. Had no impact whatsoever.


* I do like his skill-set, though.

What were your feelings of him prior to those 2 games?

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Love his versatility/skill-set. Can do a little bit of everything, literally. A guard in a 7 footer's body + a finesse big in a 7 footer's body. High IQ, very good passer, can shoot, can post up, can finish, can defend, can play off the ball.... But he's quite thin and not very aggressive as a player overall. He just doesn't strike me an alpha franchise player, which is what we're looking for in a top 3 (hopefully) pick. And in a setting like the ncaa tournament, where the spotlight is on & it's all on the line, a top 3 overall pick has to show more & do more than what Mobley did. Would be happy to have him on the team generally speaking, though. Should be, at the very least, a very good nba player.

[DetroitSho]

Did you watch the game or are you reading a stat sheet? Please don't draw conclusions about someone's impact by looking back at a stat sheet. Every Pistons fan, having experienced 8.5 seasons of Andre Drummond, should know better than to do that.

Mobley was completely invisible in the Gonzaga game (& the one before it). They were the quietest 17 points ever seen. Had no impact whatsoever.


* I do like his skill-set, though.

What were your feelings of him prior to those 2 games?

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Love his versatility/skill-set. Can do a little bit of everything, literally. A guard in a 7 footer's body + a finesse big in a 7 footer's body. High IQ, very good passer, can shoot, can post up, can finish, can defend, can play off the ball.... But he's quite thin and not very aggressive as a player overall. He just doesn't strike me an alpha franchise player, which is what we're looking for in a top 3 (hopefully) pick. And in a setting like the ncaa tournament, where the spotlight is on & it's all on the line, a top 3 overall pick has to show more & do more than what Mobley did. Would be happy to have him on the team generally speaking, though. Should be, at the very least, a very good nba player.

But that was always the case with him prior to those games. Plus, the tournament is all about guard play, it's hard for a big to really dominate offensively in college, let alone during tournament time. The person he was in January when some had going 2nd and even 1st is that same guy today.

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[440BB]

It's refreshing to hash out who we'd prefer, knowing for the first time in a long time that our GM likely knows better than any of us and can be expected to find players that will contribute to our winning goals.

Although I'm concerned whether Mobley will develop to handle the physicality of the NBA, if Weaver thinks he's going to succeed, I'm good with it should we pick him. Weaver's earned some trust.

I'm also looking forward to a surprise or two after the lottery from Weaver. It may be confusing, even frustrating, but it will definitely be worth watching.

[flow]

What were your feelings of him prior to those 2 games?

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Love his versatility/skill-set. Can do a little bit of everything, literally. A guard in a 7 footer's body + a finesse big in a 7 footer's body. High IQ, very good passer, can shoot, can post up, can finish, can defend, can play off the ball.... But he's quite thin and not very aggressive as a player overall. He just doesn't strike me an alpha franchise player, which is what we're looking for in a top 3 (hopefully) pick. And in a setting like the ncaa tournament, where the spotlight is on & it's all on the line, a top 3 overall pick has to show more & do more than what Mobley did. Would be happy to have him on the team generally speaking, though. Should be, at the very least, a very good nba player.

But that was always the case with him prior to those games. Plus, the tournament is all about guard play, it's hard for a big to really dominate offensively in college, let alone during tournament time. The person he was in January when some had going 2nd and even 1st is that same guy today.

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I'm not sure I understand your point. I didn't think he was a top 3 pick before the tournament, either. My assessment, minus the sentence on the tournament, was how I felt before the tournament.

I disagree with you, though, on the tournament. I suppose it is a guard's tournament, but go I don't remember guys like Towns, Okafor (either of them), or Adebayo being invisible in their tournament runs. Anthony Davis was named MOP of the 2012 tournament.

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[vic]

Once and For Now:

Star top Pick
1 Cade
2 Evan
3 Green
4 Kuminga
5 Suggs
6 Bouknight

Trade Back Options for multiple 1sts
Franz & Usman

2nd Round/Trade Up Options
Charles Bassey - if a guard or wing is pick 1
Trey Murphy/Kessler Edwards - If Mobley is pick 1

[LaSheed]

Can anyone convince me Scottie Barnes could be Lamar Odom eventually?

[Manocad]

Can anyone convince me Scottie Barnes could be Lamar Odom eventually?

You mean go from good defense and poor offense to good offense and poor defense?

[flow]

Can anyone convince me Scottie Barnes could be Lamar Odom eventually?

He's more Scottie Pippen than Lamar Odom. That's your ceiling. (which is great).

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[FloridaMan78]

This kid is shooting up draft boards. Crazy that he’s only 18. Awesome highlight potential with his no look passes and monster blocks and dunks. Too bad his perimeter defense and switches and rotations are bad.

Watch on YouTube

[flow]

This kid is shooting up draft boards. Crazy that he’s only 18. Crazy highlight potential with his crazy no look passes and monster blocks and dunks. Too bad his perimeter defense and switches and rotations are bad.

For anyone wanting a quick description of his game, here it is in 4 words:

An athletic Drew Timme.

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[FloridaMan78]

This kid is shooting up draft boards. Crazy that he’s only 18. Crazy highlight potential with his crazy no look passes and monster blocks and dunks. Too bad his perimeter defense and switches and rotations are bad.

For anyone wanting a quick description of his game, here it is in 4 words:

An athletic Drew Timme.

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Dude that in game 360 dunk reminded me of Chris Webber’s. Those coast to coast fast break passes were reminiscent of him too. Come to think about his no look passes in offensive sets were just like his games with the Kings. His game is hype. He’s breaking into top ten draft status now. His MVP 20 and 10 production in the Turkish league shot him up.

[Invictus88]

This kid is shooting up draft boards. Crazy that he’s only 18. Crazy highlight potential with his crazy no look passes and monster blocks and dunks. Too bad his perimeter defense and switches and rotations are bad.

For anyone wanting a quick description of his game, here it is in 4 words:

An athletic Drew Timme.

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Dude that in game 360 dunk reminded me of Chris Webber’s. Those coast to coast fast break passes were reminiscent of him too. Come to think about his no look passes in offensive sets were just like his games with the Kings. His game is hype. He’s breaking into top ten draft status now. His MVP 20 and 10 production in the Turkish league shot him up.

Timme might have a better outside shot than this guy has (which isn't saying much to begin with).

The dunks are fun but if he can't shoot from the perimeter then I don't see a lot of skills that will translate to the NBA level. He has concerns about being fast enough to begin with. Those pretty passes that he is making now will disappear when defenders sink off of him and dare him to shoot from the outside...

If he were a bit taller maybe things translate better? (he's 6'9" btw)
His measurables are actually a bit sub-par if you go for that sort of thing..
http://www.draftexpress.com/average-measurements-by-position/2020/NBA+Draft+Combine/all/60/

From one scouting report:

a more bulky version of Tyler Hansbrough

Feels about right. (Just watch and see this post not age well at all )

[flow]

For anyone wanting a quick description of his game, here it is in 4 words:

An athletic Drew Timme.

.

Dude that in game 360 dunk reminded me of Chris Webber’s. Those coast to coast fast break passes were reminiscent of him too. Come to think about his no look passes in offensive sets were just like his games with the Kings. His game is hype. He’s breaking into top ten draft status now. His MVP 20 and 10 production in the Turkish league shot him up.

Timme might have a better outside shot than this guy has (which isn't saying much to begin with).

The dunks are fun but if he can't shoot from the perimeter then I don't see a lot of skills that will translate to the NBA level. He has concerns about being fast enough to begin with. Those pretty passes that he is making now will disappear when defenders sink off of him and dare him to shoot from the outside...

If he were a bit taller maybe things translate better? (he's 6'9" btw)
His measurables are actually a bit sub-par if you go for that sort of thing..
http://www.draftexpress.com/average-measurements-by-position/2020/NBA+Draft+Combine/all/60/

From one scouting report:

a more bulky version of Tyler Hansbrough

Feels about right. (Just watch and see this post not age well at all )

I didn't watch the video posted above. I watched a different scouting video on him. (see below). The dunks didn't catch my eye. But the high-level post moves and interior play did. Very crafty. Both with and without the ball. Both scoring & passing. High IQ. He knows how to score the ball and find guys. Perimeter range is his weakness, to be sure. And it would be nice if he were a tad faster. But I like his skill-set. I'm no scout, but the Hansbrough comp is a head-scratcher to me. This kid has more offensive skill & versatility than Tyler had. And isn't the banger that Tyler was.

Watch on YouTube

[FloridaMan78]

For anyone wanting a quick description of his game, here it is in 4 words:

An athletic Drew Timme.

.

Dude that in game 360 dunk reminded me of Chris Webber’s. Those coast to coast fast break passes were reminiscent of him too. Come to think about his no look passes in offensive sets were just like his games with the Kings. His game is hype. He’s breaking into top ten draft status now. His MVP 20 and 10 production in the Turkish league shot him up.

Timme might have a better outside shot than this guy has (which isn't saying much to begin with).

The dunks are fun but if he can't shoot from the perimeter then I don't see a lot of skills that will translate to the NBA level. He has concerns about being fast enough to begin with. Those pretty passes that he is making now will disappear when defenders sink off of him and dare him to shoot from the outside...

If he were a bit taller maybe things translate better? (he's 6'9" btw)
His measurables are actually a bit sub-par if you go for that sort of thing..
http://www.draftexpress.com/average-measurements-by-position/2020/NBA+Draft+Combine/all/60/

From one scouting report:

a more bulky version of Tyler Hansbrough

Feels about right. (Just watch and see this post not age well at all )

Yea I guess we'll see where they are drafted and who turns out better.

[LaSheed]

Scottie Barnes is a faster Kyle Anderson with upside. Lol. Yall could've just said that and not Scottie Pippen.

My fault. Reading his player profile I was hoping for Lamar Odom.

[ComboGuardCity]

Luka is why Cade excites me

[tmorgan]

Luka is why Cade excites me

I kinda get that, but there’s a major difference besides just experience — Luka is a bully and a tank. That he’s decently athletic and has a nice handle at his size is awesome. Cade isn’t a twig, but he’s a completely different body type, and a lot of guys that look like him in the NBA are super athletes. Cade is not, he’s on Luka’s level.

That said, his height, vision and shooting stroke are all enticing. He should and will go first, but he’s not a guaranteed all-NBA type.

[vic]

Cade is a big creating wing like Lebron/Luka.

Less athletic than Lebron
Worse handle than Luka

However he shoots better than both, so he'll be just fine.
Well worth the #1 pick and a definitely franchise player in my opinion.

[TurboTitan]

Do you guys think we'll see trades like last year in the draft? If so who?

[joeleolebo]

Do you guys think we'll see trades like last year in the draft? If so who?

Trade one of our three 2nd's for Tacko Fall