2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft

bstein14 · Post #1041 » by **bstein14** » Tue May 25, 2021 6:29 pm

I doubt we will see much movement this draft by the Pistons. Only real trade possible is packing two 2nds and some $$$ to try and get into the late first round. Our GM might want to get a guy locked up for four cheap years after drafting Lee and then now facing his FA this soon.

rmfc · Post #1042 » by **rmfc** » Tue May 25, 2021 11:27 pm

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-mock-draft-40-jalen-green-deserves-a-serious-look-at-no-1-spot-155622404.html

New mock draft has Jalen Green going at #1.

I'd be ecstatic if the Pistons land Green. He's a perfect fit/requirement on this team.

DetroitSho · Post #1043 » by **DetroitSho** » Tue May 25, 2021 11:45 pm

joeleolebo wrote:
TurboTitan wrote:Do you guys think we'll see trades like last year in the draft? If so who?

Trade one of our three 2nd's for Tacko Fall

We have a better chance of trading for Taco Bell. TF would we trade for Fall?

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tmorgan · Post #1044 » by **tmorgan** » Tue May 25, 2021 11:54 pm

rmfc wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-mock-draft-40-jalen-green-deserves-a-serious-look-at-no-1-spot-155622404.html

New mock draft has Jalen Green going at #1.

I'd be ecstatic if the Pistons land Green. He's a perfect fit/requirement on this team.

Can't imagine Cade not goin first, but it's a good mock. Like seeing Bouknight further down, not a fan.

zeebneeb · Post #1045 » by **zeebneeb** » Wed May 26, 2021 12:07 am

tmorgan wrote:
rmfc wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-mock-draft-40-jalen-green-deserves-a-serious-look-at-no-1-spot-155622404.html

New mock draft has Jalen Green going at #1.

I'd be ecstatic if the Pistons land Green. He's a perfect fit/requirement on this team.

Can't imagine Cade not goin first, but it's a good mock. Like seeing Bouknight further down, not a fan.

This is my favorite part of drafts. I think he's going to be a really good scorer in the NBA. I'm thinking 20ppg+ by his 3rd year.

Now we play the waiting game to say "told ya!".

Based on my past predictions you've got a good shot at being right.

buzzkilloton · Post #1046 » by **buzzkilloton** » Wed May 26, 2021 3:37 am

tmorgan wrote:
rmfc wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-mock-draft-40-jalen-green-deserves-a-serious-look-at-no-1-spot-155622404.html

New mock draft has Jalen Green going at #1.

I'd be ecstatic if the Pistons land Green. He's a perfect fit/requirement on this team.

Can't imagine Cade not goin first, but it's a good mock. Like seeing Bouknight further down, not a fan.

Yahoo mocks are notoriously off. The women who wrote this is just throwing Greens name on there to be different then other mocks. Go read a Giovny mock or any other scout who actually has good sources. Yahoo mocks can be entertaining but are as relevant as a nbadraftnet mock for what teams are thinking.

rmfc · Post #1047 » by **rmfc** » Wed May 26, 2021 12:23 pm

buzzkilloton wrote:
tmorgan wrote:
rmfc wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-mock-draft-40-jalen-green-deserves-a-serious-look-at-no-1-spot-155622404.html

New mock draft has Jalen Green going at #1.

I'd be ecstatic if the Pistons land Green. He's a perfect fit/requirement on this team.

Can't imagine Cade not goin first, but it's a good mock. Like seeing Bouknight further down, not a fan.

Yahoo mocks are notoriously off. The women who wrote this is just throwing Greens name on there to be different then other mocks. Go read a Giovny mock or any other scout who actually has good sources. Yahoo mocks can be entertaining but are as relevant as a nbadraftnet mock for what teams are thinking.

Cade going #1 is pretty much guaranteed but it that article just shows that some folks feel that Green is close to Cade's current level of talent and that Green may have more potential than anyone else in the draft class.

Regardless, assuming we don't get the #1 pick in the lottery and/or Cade is already taken, Jalen Green should be the top priority for the Pistons in my opinion.

zeebneeb · Post #1048 » by **zeebneeb** » Wed May 26, 2021 12:58 pm

Anyone else watch that luka last night and think;

"Holy crap if the Pistons get the #1 pick and Cade is as good as advertised..."

Sigh. Hope the Pistons get a top 2 pick, and the player they select is great. Not good, great. Tired of watching other teams land these insane talents. Mavs lifers are spoiled rotten. Years of Dirk, and then roll into an even better player.

Unreal.

buzzkilloton · Post #1049 » by **buzzkilloton** » Wed May 26, 2021 2:03 pm

rmfc wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
tmorgan wrote:
Can't imagine Cade not goin first, but it's a good mock. Like seeing Bouknight further down, not a fan.

Yahoo mocks are notoriously off. The women who wrote this is just throwing Greens name on there to be different then other mocks. Go read a Giovny mock or any other scout who actually has good sources. Yahoo mocks can be entertaining but are as relevant as a nbadraftnet mock for what teams are thinking.

Cade going #1 is pretty much guaranteed but it that article just shows that some folks feel that Green is close to Cade's current level of talent and that Green may have more potential than anyone else in the draft class.

Regardless, assuming we don't get the #1 pick in the lottery and/or Cade is already taken, Jalen Green should be the top priority for the Pistons in my opinion.

The women who wrote this mock feels Green is a one pick and close to Cades level of talent. Every other mock has Cade one and the majority of the mocks have Mobley at the two pick. It seems currently most publications have Suggs and Green fairly close with Mobley 2nd.

The guy who I feel is the best in the business Giovny who was the main guy from draft express before ESPN paid him the big money actually has Green 4 and Mobley two.

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/mock-draft/

CBS mocks also have Green 4 and Mobley two.I'd rate the CBS mocks as the same level as yahoo only for entertainment.

http://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

tankathon has Green 4.

My other favorite nba draft guy Oconnor from the ringer also has 1.Cade 2.Mobley 3. Suggs 4.Green

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/keon-johnson?_ga=2.23594104.392653594.1621575244-2083829320.1595926565

Personally I think it seems to be close between the next three guys after Cade. It seems forums, reddit, and twitter NBA fans are big on Green. I'll be completely happy with any of the four and have confidence Weaver will choose the best prospect if given the chance. That said theirs no way Green is being considered on the level of Cade right now.

vic · Post #1050 » by **vic** » Wed May 26, 2021 2:39 pm

I've been saying this for years and I'll say it again...

Scoring guards sell tickets, defense wins championships.

Let me know when Bradley Beal/Zach Lavine get close to a championship before we take Green over Cade/Mobley. None of these guys have the wingspan to affect defensively like Jordan/Kobe/Wade...

Don't get me wrong, I love Green at 3 or 4. I'd take Green over Suggs for sure.

But I hope Troy is getting paid to be a little more championship oriented than the average reddit fan. That should be the goal.

jakebernat · Post #1051 » by **jakebernat** » Wed May 26, 2021 4:14 pm

vic wrote:I've been saying this for years and I'll say it again...

Scoring guards sell tickets, defense wins championships.

Let me know when Bradley Beal/Zach Lavine get close to a championship before we take Green over Cade/Mobley. None of these guys have the wingspan to affect defensively like Jordan/Kobe/Wade...

Don't get me wrong, I love Green at 3 or 4. I'd take Green over Suggs for sure.

But I hope Troy is getting paid to be a little more championship oriented than the average reddit fan. That should be the goal.

this. mobley could be an absolutely special talent on defense in the right situation. I love his fit with stewart on both ends. I really feel like this board is underrating him.

BJK1 · Post #1052 » by **BJK1** » Wed May 26, 2021 4:46 pm

Good Old Chad Ford:

Read on Twitter

Drwho17 · Post #1053 » by **Drwho17** » Wed May 26, 2021 4:59 pm

Well, hrm, this is a tough one, what if Houston/OKC/Orlando got the #2 and the Pistons got #1, be tempted to drop to #2 and pick up assets from those teams if they really wanted Cade.

Manocad · Post #1054 » by **Manocad** » Wed May 26, 2021 8:22 pm

DetroitSho wrote:
joeleolebo wrote:
TurboTitan wrote:Do you guys think we'll see trades like last year in the draft? If so who?

Trade one of our three 2nd's for Tacko Fall
We have a better chance of trading for Taco Bell. TF would we trade for Fall?

Nice.

Manocad · Post #1055 » by **Manocad** » Wed May 26, 2021 8:30 pm

BJK1 wrote:Good Old Chad Ford:

Read on Twitter

So a tweet from Chad Ford suggesting the Pistons would be better served by taking Green rather than Cade has a picture of Cade.

Here's what I take away from that--take Cade.

Assuming of course the Pistons have that option. And honestly that would be the only move in this draft that would piss me off--not taking Cade if they had the chance. Unless it was for some crazy Draft Day Bo Callahan kinda deal, e.g. trading #1 (Cade) for #2 or #3 plus #9 and a first rounder next year. And even then I'd still be wary.

Canadafan · Post #1056 » by **Canadafan** » Wed May 26, 2021 10:09 pm

Not gonna lie the more I think about this draft the more I get Darkophobia. Frickin darko....I definitely want Cade #1. I actually fear winning the #2 spot in the draft and whoever we take not being not as good as #3,4, and 5. Like Melo, Bosh, Wade nightmares all over again. Pathetically I'd almost be relieved if we got #3 instead of #2 and just took either Mobley or Green
This is why we are just winning the #1 pick.

zeebneeb · Post #1057 » by **zeebneeb** » Wed May 26, 2021 11:20 pm

Canadafan wrote:Not gonna lie the more I think about this draft the more I get Darkophobia. Frickin darko....I definitely want Cade #1. I actually fear winning the #2 spot in the draft and whoever we take not being not as good as #3,4, and 5. Like Melo, Bosh, Wade nightmares all over again. Pathetically I'd almost be relieved if we got #3 instead of #2 and just took either Mobley or Green
This is why we are just winning the #1 pick.

No matter what any Piston fan tells you, we all have the same fear.

I have an irrational fear of bigmen because of that Darko pick which is why I'm hoping the Pistons draft in a spot where there is concensus. #1, you take Cade. #3 with Cade and Green/Mobley gone, you select Green/Mobley.

That #2 spot means your on the clock for Green/Mobley and one could be a giant bust again.

#1 pick, you select Cade unless the deal is so sweet you'd be insane not to do it. (#2, plus another lottery pick in this draft, and a lottery pick in next year's draft)

DNice68 · Post #1058 » by **DNice68** » Thu May 27, 2021 12:05 am

jakebernat wrote:
vic wrote:I've been saying this for years and I'll say it again...

Scoring guards sell tickets, defense wins championships.

Let me know when Bradley Beal/Zach Lavine get close to a championship before we take Green over Cade/Mobley. None of these guys have the wingspan to affect defensively like Jordan/Kobe/Wade...

Don't get me wrong, I love Green at 3 or 4. I'd take Green over Suggs for sure.

But I hope Troy is getting paid to be a little more championship oriented than the average reddit fan. That should be the goal.

this. mobley could be an absolutely special talent on defense in the right situation. I love his fit with stewart on both ends. I really feel like this board is underrating him.

So do we get rid of Plumlee or Grant for Mobley to be on the floor with Stewart. As this team is situated now, we’re going to have to make some trades for Mobley to get a lot of minutes. Green on the other hand would most likely start on this team now!

buzzkilloton · Post #1059 » by **buzzkilloton** » Thu May 27, 2021 1:02 am

BJK1 wrote:Good Old Chad Ford:

Read on Twitter

Good ol Chad. Hes taking a risk putting Kumiga at four. I guess hes not worried about the risk. He can just go in and change his draft rankings after the fact. Hes already been caught changing them for like five different drafts in the past!

https://deadspin.com/espns-chad-ford-has-been-retroactively-editing-draft-bo-1681631642

buzzkilloton · Post #1060 » by **buzzkilloton** » Thu May 27, 2021 1:11 am

DNice68 wrote:
jakebernat wrote:
vic wrote:I've been saying this for years and I'll say it again...

Scoring guards sell tickets, defense wins championships.

Let me know when Bradley Beal/Zach Lavine get close to a championship before we take Green over Cade/Mobley. None of these guys have the wingspan to affect defensively like Jordan/Kobe/Wade...

Don't get me wrong, I love Green at 3 or 4. I'd take Green over Suggs for sure.

But I hope Troy is getting paid to be a little more championship oriented than the average reddit fan. That should be the goal.

this. mobley could be an absolutely special talent on defense in the right situation. I love his fit with stewart on both ends. I really feel like this board is underrating him.

So do we get rid of Plumlee or Grant for Mobley to be on the floor with Stewart. As this team is situated now, we’re going to have to make some trades for Mobley to get a lot of minutes. Green on the other hand would most likely start on this team now!

Grant and Plumlee are short-term contracts. You dont draft with them in mind whatsoever. Grant will be 30 and Plumlee 33-34 when their next contracts come. A vet on a three-year contract rarely ever means a career on your team.

The Pistons shouldnt be thinking of fit at all right now you just draft the best player available. If you have a locked up franchise player you think about fit but we dont have anyone like that so fit doesnt matter.