The Trade Thread

[BadMofoPimp]

LOLOLOL.

Harrison Barnes and David Lee for Josh Smith and Stuckey, hahahaha

[sfballa13]

LOLOLOL.

Harrison Barnes and David Lee for Josh Smith and Stuckey, hahahaha

Barnes is having a terrible year and Warriors are sitting at 8th in the standings, if they keep losing they might outright miss the playoffs.

Their team lacks defenders. Smith for Lee is a wash offensively and Smith is 100x better defensively.

Smith and Bogut would be hard to go up against.

Stuckey >>>> Barnes off the bench as they are desperate for any kind of bench scoring.

But yeh keep laughing

[sc8581]

Monroe isn't a franchise big and I don't know that Waiters is a career 6th man. There are also financial implications since Monroe will be making $10M more per year than Waiters after this season.

name FOUR centers under 25 you would rather have than monroe. drummond and cousins? okay, who else? lopez? kanter? valanciuanas??

cleveland would be floored if we offered monroe for thompson, a fringe starter who would come off the bench on a good team, and waiters, a malcontent chucker who was a 6th man in college and continues to be a 6th man in the pros. you either have a horrible bias against monroe or are just that incognizant.

and as far as "financial implications" go, cleveland is/should be more focused on simply adding as much talent as possible to build around kyrie. they could theoretically sign deng and monroe long term while also extending kyrie without going over the luxary tax assuming they offered AT LEAST thompson and waiters.

this is a stupid argument. i would never in a millions years accept thompson & waiters for monroe, and i have to make a case for cleveland accepting it???

Drummond
Cousins
Lopez
Vucevic
Favors
Jordan

Even if he were 3rd behind Drummond and Cousins that still doesn't make him a franchise center though. You say Cleveland could have Irving, Deng and Monroe all locked up long-term, so what, that team isn't competing for anything but a playoff spot with no other trade pieces or money to get better.

[MotownMadness]

Monroe isn't a franchise big and I don't know that Waiters is a career 6th man. There are also financial implications since Monroe will be making $10M more per year than Waiters after this season.

name FOUR centers under 25 you would rather have than monroe. drummond and cousins? okay, who else? lopez? kanter? valanciuanas??

cleveland would be floored if we offered monroe for thompson, a fringe starter who would come off the bench on a good team, and waiters, a malcontent chucker who was a 6th man in college and continues to be a 6th man in the pros. you either have a horrible bias against monroe or are just that incognizant.

and as far as "financial implications" go, cleveland is/should be more focused on simply adding as much talent as possible to build around kyrie. they could theoretically sign deng and monroe long term while also extending kyrie without going over the luxary tax assuming they offered AT LEAST thompson and waiters.

this is a stupid argument. i would never in a millions years accept thompson & waiters for monroe, and i have to make a case for cleveland accepting it???

Drummond
Cousins
Lopez
Vucevic
Favors
Jordan

Even if he were 3rd behind Drummond and Cousins that still doesn't make him a franchise center though. You say Cleveland could have Irving, Deng and Monroe all locked up long-term, so what, that team isn't competing for anything but a playoff spot with no other trade pieces or money to get better.

I would actually put him 3rd on that list but your right that hes not a franchise center. Especially not for a team that already has a franchise center.

[Q00]

I don't understand the love for Barnes. He was the 7th overall pick last year and only avg 9 ppg on 44% FG which is pretty bad for a forward of his size. However, he was a rookie so I'll give him a free pass.

But then he comes back this year and gets more minutes (29 mpg) and only manages to produce 1 more point on 42% FG this time.

His stats are eerily similar too across the board, indicating no improvement at all, and the fact that it took playing 4 more minutes just to achieve those same poor levels, along with the decreased FG%, you could say he's actually regressed.

So I don't really see the attraction to him. I might even call him a bust. Other than shoot 3s what does he do?

[Piston Pete]

Monroe/Stuckey to OKC for Lamb/PJ3/Adams/Perkins/pick.

Adams/Mitchell to GS for Barnes/Bazemore

...then do Bynum for Bayless and call it a day.


Jennings / Bayless / Siva
Lamb / KCP / Bazemore
Barnes / Singler
Smith / PJ3 / Jerebko
Drummond / Perkins / Harrellson

[sc8581]

I don't understand the love for Barnes. He was the 7th overall pick last year and only avg 9 ppg on 44% FG which is pretty bad for a forward of his size. However, he was a rookie so I'll give him a free pass.

But then he comes back this year and gets more minutes (29 mpg) and only manages to produce 1 more point on 42% FG this time.

His stats are eerily similar too across the board, indicating no improvement at all, and the fact that it took playing 4 more minutes just to achieve those same poor levels, along with the decreased FG%, you could say he's actually regressed.

So I don't really see the attraction to him. I might even call him a bust. Other than shoot 3s what does he do?

I agree. He was supposed to be great in college too and never was.

[MotownMadness]

Monroe/Stuckey to OKC for Lamb/PJ3/Adams/Perkins/pick.

Adams/Mitchell to GS for Barnes/Bazemore

...then do Bynum for Bayless and call it a day.


Jennings / Bayless / Siva
Lamb / KCP / Bazemore
Barnes / Singler
Smith / PJ3 / Jerebko
Drummond / Perkins / Harrellson

I would be more then happy if all that went down.

[Blkbrd671]

Monroe/Stuckey to OKC for Lamb/PJ3/Adams/Perkins/pick.

Adams/Mitchell to GS for Barnes/Bazemore

...then do Bynum for Bayless and call it a day.


Jennings / Bayless / Siva
Lamb / KCP / Bazemore
Barnes / Singler
Smith / PJ3 / Jerebko
Drummond / Perkins / Harrellson

WHOA , here the sh* this come from!? very well done

[Q00]

I don't understand the love for Barnes. He was the 7th overall pick last year and only avg 9 ppg on 44% FG which is pretty bad for a forward of his size. However, he was a rookie so I'll give him a free pass.

But then he comes back this year and gets more minutes (29 mpg) and only manages to produce 1 more point on 42% FG this time.

His stats are eerily similar too across the board, indicating no improvement at all, and the fact that it took playing 4 more minutes just to achieve those same poor levels, along with the decreased FG%, you could say he's actually regressed.

So I don't really see the attraction to him. I might even call him a bust. Other than shoot 3s what does he do?

I agree. He was supposed to be great in college too and never was.

Good point. This hype about Barnes was going on before college and he still hasn't delivered anything even close to the potential he was said to have. At some point you would think fans would stop clamoring for him.

[MrBigShot]

I third that notion. He's living off high school hype at this point. Even Warriors fans are displeased...I would be too after the no show he pulled at the dunk contest. He can't really create his own shot outside of a 1 to 2 dribble pull up, and doesn't do much outside of shooting the ball. His regression this year is a huge red flag.

[Q00]

I third that notion. He's living off high school hype at this point. Even Warriors fans are displeased...I would be too after the no show he pulled at the dunk contest. He can't really create his own shot outside of a 1 to 2 dribble pull up, and doesn't do much outside of shooting the ball. His regression this year is a huge red flag.

This. I remember that was the major gripe about him in college was that he couldn't create off the dribble and couldn't make plays for teammates, and was basically just a shooter. All of those things are still true 2 years later and hasn't improved at anything. He's basically still the same player he was in college.

The only reason he had some success in the playoffs last year was because they were using him as a stretch 4 and it gave him an advantageous matchup on offense where his 3pt shooting could be highlighted. As a SF though, he's really done nothing in this league or college.

If we were to trade Monroe and Smith and were looking for a stretch 4 next to Drummond, he might be someone to look at, but as a SF he's nothing special.

[Neptune]

Monroe/Stuckey to OKC for Lamb/PJ3/Adams/Perkins/pick.

Adams/Mitchell to GS for Barnes/Bazemore

...then do Bynum for Bayless and call it a day.


Jennings / Bayless / Siva
Lamb / KCP / Bazemore
Barnes / Singler
Smith / PJ3 / Jerebko
Drummond / Perkins / Harrellson

No

[dVs33]

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2014/2/17 ... yd-bayless

Not much to this one, but it's speculation that the Celtics might be interested in Bayless for Bynum swap.
Judging from the article, it doesn't look like anything is close or even a real rumor, but it's been a quiet deadline lead up.

Personally the trade wouldn't be bad. Bayless has had a down year, but he's a relatively good 3pt shooter, but both guys are streaky.

[Neptune]

We need a 2-guard who can jump in the starting line-up. I don't see how a Bynum for Bayless swap would help us, especially if we're trying to make the playoffs.

[ComboGuardCity]

Offer Stuckey for Barnes + filler and see if they bite. Honestly, he's probably not worth more at this point.

[sfballa13]

Minny wants to trade Barrea and Budinger for Tayshaun Prince of all people

I say we turn around and offer Bynum, Jerebko, Datome or Jerebko,Datome, Siva

Barrea could be useful as our back up PG, and Budinger would easily slot in the SF bench role

Tayshaun is trash who the hell would ever trade for him esp when he has 14M left

[Kilo]

Flip Saunders is GM in Minnesota right? So he has familiarity with Tay.

But if the move happens it also is more proof that Josh Smith is 100% tradeable.

[MotownMadness]

Minny wants to trade Barrea and Budinger for Tayshaun Prince of all people

I say we turn around and offer Bynum, Jerebko, Datome or Jerebko,Datome, Siva

Barrea could be useful as our back up PG, and Budinger would easily slot in the SF bench role

Tayshaun is trash who the hell would ever trade for him esp when he has 14M left

Is he still playing good D at least?

[sfballa13]

Flip Saunders is GM in Minnesota right? So he has familiarity with Tay.

But if the move happens it also is more proof that Josh Smith is 100% tradeable.

Smith is definitely tradeable

But Dumars wont admit his mistake thus we are stuck with him until we get a new GM

The team we should be looking to deal with is NYC, they are desperate for a PG and desperate to prove to Melo they can win

Simple trade:
Smith, Stuckey, Jennings, Bynum, Datome
for
Udrih, Amare, Tim Hardaway Jr, Bargs

NYC dumps Bargs/Amare, gains 3 starters in Smith, Stuckey, Jennings, and keeps Shumpert

We tank hard, resign Monroe, and try to sign Lowry in the offseason
Next year we would have 33M in expiring contracts to play around with.

Udrih / Bynum
Hardaway Jr / KCP
Singler / Bargs
Monroe / Amare
Drummond / Harrelson

NYC wants Teague/Lowry but they would have to give up Hardaway Jr AND a first round pick.
We give them Jennings, who would fit well on the big stage at MSG, for the low low price of Hardaway Jr