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Race to the bottom: Who's our biggest competition?

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Post#1141 » by DBC10 » Wed May 12, 2021 8:18 pm

At this point bend the rules so that we have an active on-off knee contusion to the guy that starts going off on our team in the next couple games

We're already this far, might as well go all the way. Give Sirvydis the OKC Poku treatment and lots of weird developmental minutes for the hell of it
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Re: Race to the bottom: Who's our biggest competition? 

Post#1142 » by 440BB » Wed May 12, 2021 8:59 pm

Here's an option - let everybody play at a new position. Stewart and Cook in the backcourt, Sirvydis at center, Lee at SF and Josh Jackson at PF. Bey as the backup 1 and 2, Hayes backs up the bigs.

Whatever it takes to lose these two games!
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Post#1143 » by Snakebites » Wed May 12, 2021 9:18 pm

You know what I really want for next year?

For the Pistons to be a team who’s circumstances aren’t such that by far the 2 most active and long lasting threads are about tanking and draft prospects.

Hopefully a good draft choice here and some natural development from our young players help us get out of that.
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Re: Race to the bottom: Who's our biggest competition? 

Post#1144 » by Snakebites » Wed May 12, 2021 9:19 pm

440BB wrote:Here's an option - let everybody play at a new position. Stewart and Cook in the backcourt, Sirvydis at center, Lee at SF and Josh Jackson at PF. Bey as the backup 1 and 2, Hayes backs up the bigs.

Whatever it takes to lose these two games!

Josh Jackson at power forward isn’t actually that crazy, but otherwise yes!
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Re: Race to the bottom: Who's our biggest competition? 

Post#1145 » by bstein14 » Wed May 12, 2021 9:48 pm

If the young guys play well and end up winning one of our last two games its not the end of the world. We will still finish TIED for 2nd worst which is a spot every single person would have been glad to be in a few weeks ago, a few months ago, at the beginning of the season, etc. I'd take that spot every year we aren't good enough to be in the playoffs.
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Post#1146 » by Manocad » Wed May 12, 2021 10:09 pm

Even winning the last two games wouldn’t be the end of the world; the Pistons would still come out of the draft with a nice player. Don’t get me wrong—I sure as hell want the best shot at 1-4 as possible but I’m not in the “It’s all over if we don’t pick in the top 4” crowd.
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Post#1147 » by DetroitSho » Wed May 12, 2021 10:50 pm

The Pistons have been sitting like 8 and 9 guys. Even if Denver and Miami sit their top 2 or 3 guys, that still leaves them with better remaining guys. Young guys on playoff teams are generally foaming at the mouth to go off in this scenario. There's a difference between a playoff team having nothing to play for and literally us trying to lose. This can't be stated enough.

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Post#1148 » by tmorgan » Wed May 12, 2021 10:52 pm

The rando lotto balls are far more important than these last two games, but the only “control” we have is with our pick floor. And a floor of 6th (current) isn’t much different than 7th or 8th in this draft. Let’s just let it play out.

Also, I see the headline of adding a year to Casey’s current deal. Not sure why it’s necessary to do it now, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was some sort of pre-arranged deal based on Casey’s willingness to sit vets, play kids, and lose. It may be his last coaching gig (just cuz he’s getting old), so this might have been the deal.
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Post#1149 » by Snakebites » Thu May 13, 2021 1:01 am

Manocad wrote:Even winning the last two games wouldn’t be the end of the world; the Pistons would still come out of the draft with a nice player. Don’t get me wrong—I sure as hell want the best shot at 1-4 as possible but I’m not in the “It’s all over if we don’t pick in the top 4” crowd.

And even if we win the last 2, that still leaves us with "decent" odds of moving up anyway.

The 6th and 7th teams both moved up last year.

We've all collectively gotten way to invested into this. I've definitely been a part of it. Hopefully we'll be able to root for the team to win next year. I miss that.
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Post#1150 » by ElectricMayhem » Thu May 13, 2021 1:02 am

http://www.yahoo.com/sports/the-pistons-are-pulling-off-possibly-one-of-the-all-time-great-tank-jobs-in-nba-history-152230786.html
Detroit might be able to add the kind of talent that a top-three pick usually provides to a roster that is prebuilt for them and their skill set. This could be a very nice setup for a Cunningham/Suggs/Green, with plenty of time for a young nucleus to grow together in the seasons to come.

Traditionally, this is done the opposite way — you get your star and then add around him. Weaver flipped the script and, as such, Detroit could be two years ahead of schedule.

All of this was accomplished during a season that was both delayed and shortened due to COVID-19 and took place in front of almost no fans. If there were ever a year that didn’t matter, this was it. No season ticket-holder had to sit (and spend) through the dregs of “the process.”
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Post#1151 » by Manocad » Thu May 13, 2021 1:20 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:http://www.yahoo.com/sports/the-pistons-are-pulling-off-possibly-one-of-the-all-time-great-tank-jobs-in-nba-history-152230786.html
Detroit might be able to add the kind of talent that a top-three pick usually provides to a roster that is prebuilt for them and their skill set. This could be a very nice setup for a Cunningham/Suggs/Green, with plenty of time for a young nucleus to grow together in the seasons to come.

Traditionally, this is done the opposite way — you get your star and then add around him. Weaver flipped the script and, as such, Detroit could be two years ahead of schedule.

All of this was accomplished during a season that was both delayed and shortened due to COVID-19 and took place in front of almost no fans. If there were ever a year that didn’t matter, this was it. No season ticket-holder had to sit (and spend) through the dregs of “the process.”

Wow...almost like I wrote that. :)
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Post#1152 » by The Moose » Thu May 13, 2021 2:14 am

Cavs beat the Celtics which pulls them out of the 21 win tie zone
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Re: Race to the bottom: Who's our biggest competition? 

Post#1153 » by NYPiston » Thu May 13, 2021 2:17 am

So with Cleveland winning, the Pistons have a buffer of 1 win to guarantee 4th at worst if they lose all the tiebreakers so 2nd-4th is guaranteed even if they win 1 game. Losing to Denver would guarantee 2-4.
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Post#1154 » by Manocad » Thu May 13, 2021 2:25 am

NYPiston wrote:So with Cleveland winning, the Pistons have a buffer of 1 win to guarantee 4th at worst if they lose all the tiebreakers so 2nd-4th is guaranteed even if they win 1 game.

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Re: Race to the bottom: Who's our biggest competition? 

Post#1155 » by Pharaoh » Thu May 13, 2021 3:14 am

Manocad wrote:
ElectricMayhem wrote:http://www.yahoo.com/sports/the-pistons-are-pulling-off-possibly-one-of-the-all-time-great-tank-jobs-in-nba-history-152230786.html
Detroit might be able to add the kind of talent that a top-three pick usually provides to a roster that is prebuilt for them and their skill set. This could be a very nice setup for a Cunningham/Suggs/Green, with plenty of time for a young nucleus to grow together in the seasons to come.

Traditionally, this is done the opposite way — you get your star and then add around him. Weaver flipped the script and, as such, Detroit could be two years ahead of schedule.

All of this was accomplished during a season that was both delayed and shortened due to COVID-19 and took place in front of almost no fans. If there were ever a year that didn’t matter, this was it. No season ticket-holder had to sit (and spend) through the dregs of “the process.”

Wow...almost like I wrote that. :)
If only the "5 months to prepare" was added it would be like I wrote it too

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Re: Race to the bottom: Who's our biggest competition? 

Post#1156 » by zeebneeb » Thu May 13, 2021 3:43 am

Two games left and what Weaver accomplished is nothing short of astounding.

If the pick is indeed top 3, this may go down as one of the best roster clear/tank jobs of all time.

I don't care who you are, everyone had something bad to say about Weaver during the year, some more then others but we all sit in the same boat;

Stunned at what has happened, and how quickly it has happened.

Sensational year so far, and we are all waiting for it to be capped off, hopefully, rewarded with the next franchise superstar the Pistons haven't truly had since Grant Hill.
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Post#1157 » by GreekAlex » Thu May 13, 2021 4:04 am

zeebneeb wrote:Two games left and what Weaver accomplished is nothing short of astounding.

If the pick is indeed top 3, this may go down as one of the best roster clear/tank jobs of all time.

I don't care who you are, everyone had something bad to say about Weaver during the year, some more then others but we all sit in the same boat;

Stunned at what has happened, and how quickly it has happened.

Sensational year so far, and we are all waiting for it to be capped off, hopefully, rewarded with the next franchise superstar the Pistons haven't truly had since Grant Hill.



I was a little skeptical at first but now I’m a believer in Weaver.
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Post#1158 » by tmorgan » Thu May 13, 2021 4:07 am

Cleveland’s win is similar to stuff we did down the stretch in previous years. That isht HURTS.

Also, Boston is a mess.
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Re: Race to the bottom: Who's our biggest competition? 

Post#1159 » by SamFlow » Thu May 13, 2021 5:38 am

Let's remember, If you do the Tankathon 10 times, Detroit is top 3 only 3 times. So many times it's the lower teams that win. It'd be nice to stay where we are, but odds are we drop. Top 4 is all I'm worried about. No 5 and no 6 which happens alot on tankathon.

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We need front court help quite a bit. C, PF, SF. More so than guards. Front court and shooting and always playmakers.
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Re: Race to the bottom: Who's our biggest competition? 

Post#1160 » by Betarayjigs » Thu May 13, 2021 2:54 pm

Random odds are a very unsatisfying way to get a result. Usually it ends with most people feeling cheated but…I’ve been watching Pistons since the bad boys were knocking on the door against the Celtics and Some years and periods have been amazing and Some have been hopeless and not worth watching,
At least this season was about developing a fun hopeful future team to watch, not a team so bereft of players that if the odds don’t go your way you have another hopeless year.
Winding way of saying well done so far Pistons, I enjoyed watching the team this season while you were one of the worst and I believe in the future(for now) even with the fickle lottery coming.

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