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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1181 » by whitehops » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:11 pm

bstein14 wrote:We no longer have max cap space if we keep all our player options, offer Bagley a qualifying offer, and also land a top 3 draft pick. I think we'll have between $26 million and $28 million most likely.

I can't for the life of me think why they would extend a QO to bagley, even the reduced one. they would be tying up cap space just for his bird rights (when we're well under the cap) and the right to match any deals in RFA but his next contract could very possibly be less than the QO anyways.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1182 » by Kalamazoo317 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:11 pm

As long as Cade has the ball in his hands (he should) then there's no reason Grant needs to stunt his growth. I'm kind of excited to see how this roster can look when it's all put together. I think Grant may be able to fall into a different role now that we have other players who can do things.

Though half of me kind of suspects we have a handshake deal with Portland to trade him there around draft time. That's one to watch in the offseason, IMO.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1183 » by Snakebites » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:11 pm

Manocad wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Ugh. Zero appetite for the pointless debates that happen about moves we didn’t make.

Then lock the thread. :crazy:

Seriously, what else would be discussed here since he didn't get traded?

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Post#1184 » by vic » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:38 pm

I'm ok with keeping Grant if he couldn't get 2 good firsta for him.

Hopefully this means either the trade with Portland will happen after the year is over and the 1st round draft picks are more certain...

Or it means Beal is going to sign in Detroit to join up with Grant. :nod:
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Post#1185 » by Laimbeer » Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:51 pm

Why didn't we get in on the Zinger deal? Grant and filler beats that trash Dallas got. He's two years younger than Grant and a better player, tbh.
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Post#1186 » by Manocad » Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:53 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Why didn't we get in on the Zinger deal? Grant and filler beats that trash Dallas got. He's two years younger than Grant and a better player, tbh.


Snakebites wrote:Ugh. Zero appetite for the pointless debates that happen about moves we didn’t make.


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Post#1187 » by Laimbeer » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:01 pm

Manocad wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Why didn't we get in on the Zinger deal? Grant and filler beats that trash Dallas got. He's two years younger than Grant and a better player, tbh.


Snakebites wrote:Ugh. Zero appetite for the pointless debates that happen about moves we didn’t make.


:lol:


What the heck, all of our debates are pointless. :D
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Post#1188 » by mattao313 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:17 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Why didn't we get in on the Zinger deal? Grant and filler beats that trash Dallas got. He's two years younger than Grant and a better player, tbh.
I'm guessing the injury history is a concern

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Post#1189 » by Niximusprime » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:23 pm

Not sure how Grant, a player that a lot of us called a 3rd or 4th option on a playoff team, stunts the growth of our future superstar. If anything his skill will help Cade more open shots.

Not making a move was the right move, plenty of flexibility during the off-season and a great foundation to build on.
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Post#1190 » by keepitrealhomes » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:30 pm

I’d love to see grant dial back the mid-range isos, and ramp up the attacking and playmaking in the 2nd half.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1191 » by Manocad » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:30 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Manocad wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Why didn't we get in on the Zinger deal? Grant and filler beats that trash Dallas got. He's two years younger than Grant and a better player, tbh.


Snakebites wrote:Ugh. Zero appetite for the pointless debates that happen about moves we didn’t make.


:lol:


What the heck, all of our debates are pointless. :D

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Post#1192 » by Manocad » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:32 pm

Niximusprime wrote:Not sure how Grant, a player that a lot of us called a 3rd or 4th option on a playoff team, stunts the growth of our future superstar. If anything his skill will help Cade more open shots.

Not making a move was the right move, plenty of flexibility during the off-season and a great foundation to build on.

Don't apply logic around here, especially if it identifies a clear paradox. People will "have a problem with you," which of course will be your fault.
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Post#1193 » by 440BB » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:41 pm

Manocad wrote:
Niximusprime wrote:Not sure how Grant, a player that a lot of us called a 3rd or 4th option on a playoff team, stunts the growth of our future superstar. If anything his skill will help Cade more open shots.

Not making a move was the right move, plenty of flexibility during the off-season and a great foundation to build on.

Don't apply logic around here, especially if it identifies a clear paradox. People will "have a problem with you," which of course will be your fault.
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I believe you're mistaken - it will be Weaver's fault and grounds for immediate dismissal.
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Post#1194 » by ElectricMayhem » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:08 am

No Grant trade is a bit disappointing since he doesn't work well with Cade/Bey, but I have no idea what the best offer out there was so it is impossible to say there should be blame.
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Post#1195 » by Manocad » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:16 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:No Grant trade is a bit disappointing since he doesn't work well with Cade/Bey, but I have no idea what the best offer out there was so it is impossible to say there should be blame.

There's that pesky logic again...
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Post#1196 » by GBanga3 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:06 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:No Grant trade is a bit disappointing since he doesn't work well with Cade/Bey, but I have no idea what the best offer out there was so it is impossible to say there should be blame.


I’m still claiming we actually haven’t seen enough of these guys playing together for that time be a forgone conclusion.

Also if the big thing is that Cade needs the ball in his hands, I’d say it’s time to get Cojo out of the starting lineup (hell even the rotation).

Go with;

Cade
Diallo
Bey
Grant
Beef

Off the bench.

Kill
Cojo
Frank
KO
Bags

Even scrap Cojo and get one of these G league boys Livers or Smith some burn.

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Post#1197 » by Piston Pete » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:10 am

GBanga3 wrote:
ElectricMayhem wrote:No Grant trade is a bit disappointing since he doesn't work well with Cade/Bey, but I have no idea what the best offer out there was so it is impossible to say there should be blame.


I’m still claiming we actually haven’t seen enough of these guys playing together for that time be a forgone conclusion.

Also if the big thing is that Cade needs the ball in his hands, I’d say it’s time to get Cojo out of the starting lineup (hell even the rotation).

Go with;

Cade
Diallo
Bey
Grant
Beef

Off the bench.

Kill
Cojo
Frank
KO
Bags

Even scrap Cojo and get one of these G league boys Livers or Smith some burn.

*damn forgot Mcgruber. Maybe time he didn’t play too


Bench:

Killian
FrankJax
Pickett/Livers
Bagley
KO
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Post#1198 » by GBanga3 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:15 am

Piston Pete wrote:
GBanga3 wrote:
ElectricMayhem wrote:No Grant trade is a bit disappointing since he doesn't work well with Cade/Bey, but I have no idea what the best offer out there was so it is impossible to say there should be blame.


I’m still claiming we actually haven’t seen enough of these guys playing together for that time be a forgone conclusion.

Also if the big thing is that Cade needs the ball in his hands, I’d say it’s time to get Cojo out of the starting lineup (hell even the rotation).

Go with;

Cade
Diallo
Bey
Grant
Beef

Off the bench.

Kill
Cojo
Frank
KO
Bags

Even scrap Cojo and get one of these G league boys Livers or Smith some burn.

*damn forgot Mcgruber. Maybe time he didn’t play too


Bench:

Killian
FrankJax
Pickett/Livers
Bagley
KO


Yeah that looks better.

I forget Pickett. It’d be nice to see what he’s got
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Post#1199 » by edmunder_prc » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:17 am

There was a crazy amount of action from superstars all the way down to bench guys.

Levert, Powell, McCollum all were traded. Even Derrick White brought back a 1st round pick.

Either Grant's value is in the gutter and thats 100% on Weaver along with Plumlee as his marquee players who no one wants because they are bad contracts. Is that the case? Maybe.

Or Weaver had something and he wanted more which is a terrible move. There absolutely were trades to be made, every contender picked up someone. I have never seen such an active trade deadline. Several players like Grant were traded and brought back expirings and picks.

Lose - Lose here with Grant. Either he stays and helps Cade win games - no this is a tank year thank you. Or he stays and sucks - should have traded while he had value.

GTFO with "I just didnt see any guys traded this deadline , like, you just never know, barely any action."
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Post#1200 » by Manocad » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:20 am

edmunder_prc wrote:There was a crazy amount of action from superstars all the way down to bench guys.

Levert, Powell, McCollum all were traded. Even Derrick White brought back a 1st round pick.

Either Grant's value is in the gutter and thats 100% on Weaver along with Plumlee as his marquee players who no one wants because they are bad contracts. Is that the case? Maybe.

Or Weaver had something and he wanted more which is a terrible move. There absolutely were trades to be made, every contender picked up someone. I have never seen such an active trade deadline. Several players like Grant were traded and brought back expirings and picks.

Lose - Lose here with Grant. Either he stays and helps Cade win games - no this is a tank year thank you. Or he stays and sucks - should have traded while he had value.

GTFO with "I just didnt see any guys traded this deadline , like, you just never know, barely any action."

Weaver made the right move.
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