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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#121 » by Mr. Krabs » Wed Feb 6, 2019 1:28 pm

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Please god. never in a million years does anyone here want anything to do with the waste of a player Bizmark. Worst NBA contract in the entire NBA hands down. That would be a disastrous move.


John Walls is way worse. He’s getting 47 a year after this one and he’s blown out both knees plus his Achilles. It’s Gilbert Arenas 2.0 which that was the worse contract for a while.


Still, any trade involving a player like Bizmark or Wall at this juncture would be like committing professional suicide and will NEVER happen.

I would still prefer to have his dead money rather than Batum's if we are tanking
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#122 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Feb 6, 2019 1:33 pm

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John Walls is way worse. He’s getting 47 a year after this one and he’s blown out both knees plus his Achilles. It’s Gilbert Arenas 2.0 which that was the worse contract for a while.


Still, any trade involving a player like Bizmark or Wall at this juncture would be like committing professional suicide and will NEVER happen.

I would still prefer to have his dead money rather than Batum's if we are tanking


You don't get it being you are stuck on playing NBA2k or thinking Sixers are more genius than getting lucky. The premise is, no Agent or Free Agent will ever sign in Detroit again if the team makes stupid arse trades like Dre for Bizmark as that is a poor way to treat your players. That would be pantamount to professional suicide. At that juncture, may as well move the team to another city as nobody would ever go to games ever again and no player would ever want to play here again. Please stick to video games as no GM or owner would ever do this.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#123 » by whitehops » Wed Feb 6, 2019 1:52 pm

Happy for bullock, we got him for dirt cheap and he’s been underpaid the last two years.

Hopefully he can help the lakers in their playoff run and boost his value going into free agency.

Thanks Reggie.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#124 » by Mr. Krabs » Wed Feb 6, 2019 2:05 pm

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Still, any trade involving a player like Bizmark or Wall at this juncture would be like committing professional suicide and will NEVER happen.

I would still prefer to have his dead money rather than Batum's if we are tanking


You don't get it being you are stuck on playing NBA2k or thinking Sixers are more genius than getting lucky. The premise is, no Agent or Free Agent will ever sign in Detroit again if the team makes stupid arse trades like Dre for Bizmark as that is a poor way to treat your players. That would be pantamount to professional suicide. At that juncture, may as well move the team to another city as nobody would ever go to games ever again and no player would ever want to play here again. Please stick to video games as no GM or owner would ever do this.

So what are you suggesting dude? We keep Dre Blake and Reggie and continue this ride? I think it is a clear indication that something has to change when your team is in the conversation for the worst future in the league with the freaking Wizards who has 40 mil a year in the dumpster. I personally dont want to make the same mistake to retool again by getting Conley for our pick which may not even be enough for the 8th seed now
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#125 » by Billl » Wed Feb 6, 2019 2:12 pm

This is a bit disappointing. Bullock is a nice player and is likely going to be better than whatever we get in the second round.

However, this is what everyone has been waiting for, right? We move our expirings for young project players and whatever future picks we can get. Stop overpaying role players. If something great comes along for our big name players, make the move. Otherwise, time just makes their contracts better. I just hope we move sj or ish in a similar deal and nab a young pg to try to develop. No use riding jose at this point.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#126 » by Kilo » Wed Feb 6, 2019 2:22 pm

Lakers 2021 SRP is near valueless as it will be 55+ range.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#127 » by Billl » Wed Feb 6, 2019 2:34 pm

Kilo wrote:Lakers 2021 SRP is near valueless as it will be 55+ range.


That's a 100% guess on your part. They are a 500 team right now that just burned bridges with pretty much all of their young talent. Who knows what's going to happen in the next 2 years?
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Post#128 » by Kilo » Wed Feb 6, 2019 2:47 pm

This trade does save us $1M, meaning we're $1.4M under the tax - so enough room to cut Ellenson or Calderon and add a vet minimum player from post-trade deadline releases, a Chinese Basketball League former NBA player when their season wraps up, a G-League stand out or even Carmelo Anthony.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#129 » by 440BB » Wed Feb 6, 2019 2:58 pm

Bullock was a throw in with Marcus Morris that cost the Pistons their 2020 second round pick. We end up with a 2018 and 2021 second round pick versus losing him to free agency. I really like him as a player and person but both he and the Pistons are better off compared to just losing him. If he can adapt quickly to playing with James and have a hot hand in front of the LA media he should make a couple million a year more that he would have coming out of Detroit.

Svi might just get a chance to settle in playing for Casey. Walton stated that if Svi makes shots he stays in the game, using a quick hook. Casey may give Svi some minutes without looking over his shoulder so he can get acclimated. The kid could look pretty good draining feeds from Blake and has a good handle. He has more experience and is more ready for the NBA than Johnson, Kennard or Thomas were when they arrived. Whether he can defend enough to stay on the court will be the issue.

Sorry to see Bullock go but glad we got some value in return.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#130 » by bstein14 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 2:59 pm

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Kilo wrote:Lakers 2021 SRP is near valueless as it will be 55+ range.


That's a 100% guess on your part. They are a 500 team right now that just burned bridges with pretty much all of their young talent. Who knows what's going to happen in the next 2 years?


Agreed, its entirely possible the Clippers end up landing Davis, and no other big name FA's choose to play alongside Lebron but rather go to the Clippers and or New York this summer. Its pretty clear from comments made by Durant he doesn't want to play next to LeBron and also its clear that the Clippers have been rumored to be the front runner for Leonard this summer.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#131 » by Kilo » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:03 pm

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Kilo wrote:Lakers 2021 SRP is near valueless as it will be 55+ range.


That's a 100% guess on your part. They are a 500 team right now that just burned bridges with pretty much all of their young talent. Who knows what's going to happen in the next 2 years?


Agreed, its entirely possible the Clippers end up landing Davis, and no other big name FA's choose to play alongside Lebron but rather go to the Clippers and or New York this summer. Its pretty clear from comments made by Durant he doesn't want to play next to LeBron and also its clear that the Clippers have been rumored to be the front runner for Leonard this summer.


Lebron could get hit by a meteor I guess.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#132 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:04 pm

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Mr. Krabs wrote:I would still prefer to have his dead money rather than Batum's if we are tanking


You don't get it being you are stuck on playing NBA2k or thinking Sixers are more genius than getting lucky. The premise is, no Agent or Free Agent will ever sign in Detroit again if the team makes stupid arse trades like Dre for Bizmark as that is a poor way to treat your players. That would be pantamount to professional suicide. At that juncture, may as well move the team to another city as nobody would ever go to games ever again and no player would ever want to play here again. Please stick to video games as no GM or owner would ever do this.

So what are you suggesting dude? We keep Dre Blake and Reggie and continue this ride? I think it is a clear indication that something has to change when your team is in the conversation for the worst future in the league with the freaking Wizards who has 40 mil a year in the dumpster. I personally dont want to make the same mistake to retool again by getting Conley for our pick which may not even be enough for the 8th seed now


What I am suggesting is NO Panic moves. Just because a few fans want to tank because how lucky Philly got is no indication on how to run your franchise when a business is involved. That could lead to bankruptcy if you alienate all fans when the team has no players for a few years where Detroit has a problem getting attendance when they have Blake and Drummond. I am sure Drummond and Reggie and possibly Blake may be traded, but these things take time. May take until summer or next trade deadline, but nothing major will happen because Management won't all of a sudden give up and trade everyone away. That only happens in NBA2k by kids or adults acting like kids playing games.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#133 » by dVs33 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:12 pm

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Mr. Krabs wrote:Good move I was pulling for a late first rounder but we got just a little less value than that which is fine.

I think trading Bullock has got to mean that we are not shooting for playoffs this year right? :nod:
It can also mean we anticipate a larger trade while staying under tax...

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Or that we have no direction.
This is exactly it. We have zero direction. We'll keep griffin as he wastes his prime here with complete idiots like dre and Reggie.
I'm so sick of this team. Pick a side goddammit.

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Post#134 » by kpt » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:17 pm

My hope is that Kyrie and Luke get more playing time because of this trade and it helps with their development and confidence. It’s kind of hard to see them not getting more playing time
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#135 » by dVs33 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:18 pm

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GBanga3 wrote:Surely a starting 3 with a stroke like Reggie fetches you more than a future second rounder and a player that won’t ever see the court?!

Are we in win now mode or what? So very confusing and frustrating for a fan


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Post#136 » by bstein14 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:24 pm

I'm for sure bummed about this trade as well and it almost seemed like Reggie B was the guy Blake liked most on this team I am pretty surprised we let him go for so little unless management is actually trying to tank the rest of the season as well.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#137 » by Mr. Krabs » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:30 pm

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You don't get it being you are stuck on playing NBA2k or thinking Sixers are more genius than getting lucky. The premise is, no Agent or Free Agent will ever sign in Detroit again if the team makes stupid arse trades like Dre for Bizmark as that is a poor way to treat your players. That would be pantamount to professional suicide. At that juncture, may as well move the team to another city as nobody would ever go to games ever again and no player would ever want to play here again. Please stick to video games as no GM or owner would ever do this.

So what are you suggesting dude? We keep Dre Blake and Reggie and continue this ride? I think it is a clear indication that something has to change when your team is in the conversation for the worst future in the league with the freaking Wizards who has 40 mil a year in the dumpster. I personally dont want to make the same mistake to retool again by getting Conley for our pick which may not even be enough for the 8th seed now


What I am suggesting is NO Panic moves. Just because a few fans want to tank because how lucky Philly got is no indication on how to run your franchise when a business is involved. That could lead to bankruptcy if you alienate all fans when the team has no players for a few years where Detroit has a problem getting attendance when they have Blake and Drummond. I am sure Drummond and Reggie and possibly Blake may be traded, but these things take time. May take until summer or next trade deadline, but nothing major will happen because Management won't all of a sudden give up and trade everyone away. That only happens in NBA2k by kids or adults acting like kids playing games.


I agree that it is also OK to wait out contracts rather than selling low. But I disagree that it is absurd to think that it is possible that the management might dump what we have for lesser contracts and picks. It happens all the time, Clippers did it, Knicks did it, Grizzlies and Lakers will do it. What I consider a panic move is to trade a first rounder for a 32 year old dude who has not made the all star on a huge contract to get a 4 game series again.
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Post#138 » by Kilo » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:33 pm

kpt wrote:My hope is that Kyrie and Luke get more playing time because of this trade and it helps with their development and confidence. It’s kind of hard to see them not getting more playing time


Ideally, along with Svi. But given how Casey plays Calderon, I expect GRIII is back in the starting rotation, and Galloway will get any extra minutes.
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Post#139 » by Billl » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:37 pm

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That's a 100% guess on your part. They are a 500 team right now that just burned bridges with pretty much all of their young talent. Who knows what's going to happen in the next 2 years?


Agreed, its entirely possible the Clippers end up landing Davis, and no other big name FA's choose to play alongside Lebron but rather go to the Clippers and or New York this summer. Its pretty clear from comments made by Durant he doesn't want to play next to LeBron and also its clear that the Clippers have been rumored to be the front runner for Leonard this summer.


Lebron could get hit by a meteor I guess.


They are 500 WITH lebron. And it's Lebron. It's certainly not out of the question that if the Lakers whiff, he could just bolt for greener pastures again. Or, he could just get 2 years older and finally start to break down. 20 years in the NBA is a loooong time.
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Post#140 » by DETermination » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:37 pm

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kpt wrote:My hope is that Kyrie and Luke get more playing time because of this trade and it helps with their development and confidence. It’s kind of hard to see them not getting more playing time


Ideally, along with Svi. But given how Casey plays Calderon, I expect GRIII is back in the starting rotation, and Galloway will get any extra minutes.

I'm expecting Jose to start getting minutes at sf lol
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