Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

jakebernat · Post #121 » by **jakebernat** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:12 am

MotownMadness wrote:Jabari Smith had 22pts, 6rebs, 4ast, (4-8) from 3 today.

Duren plays at 9pm and then obviously the Chet vs Banchero matchup at 10:30pm.

This is the guy for me. he’s growing on me more and more every day.

MotownMadness · Post #122 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:09 am

Banchero killing it from 3 and on the inside. Even bullied Chet to the basket for a and 1

NYPiston · Post #123 » by **NYPiston** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:14 am

I'll say what I said after the Kentucky game earlier in the season. I'm sold on Banchero. He might not be perfect defensively but god damn that offensive arsenal is lethal.

MotownMadness · Post #124 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:37 am

NYPiston wrote:I'll say what I said after the Kentucky game earlier in the season. I'm sold on Banchero. He might not be perfect defensively but god damn that offensive arsenal is lethal.

Yeah I think I'm locked in on him as #1. He's really good offensively inside and out., Especially at that size.

bstein14 · Post #125 » by **bstein14** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:48 am

Banchero is easily the safest #1 pick. Putting up solid numbers as a freshman for a great team in a major conference. He'll continue to be a 19 to 20 PPG scorer at Duke shooting a high %. That said, fit wise, I could see Weaver not wanting a player that plays the same position as Grant if we want to keep Grant... I don't think we should care about fit at all it should be about who we think will be the best player. I think Chet has a higher upside because of what he can do as a 7 footer, but he has a much higher bust probability as far as NBA fit.

Hardy has been underwhelming in the G League, BUT its still super early for all these guys.

The Moose · Post #126 » by **The Moose** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:29 am

The Moose wrote:Jabari is my pick so far

update, I'm still not very high on this class overall.

At the top I like Jabari still, wouldn't mind Banchero. But I'm not a fan of Chet, Duren, Hardy,.
If we fall in the lottery, I'm like Kendall Brown, Keegan Murray, Dyson Daniels to name a few

jakebernat · Post #127 » by **jakebernat** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:21 pm

banchero scares me just as much as chet, but obviously for different reasons. I’m with moose though, this class doesn’t exactly wow me. like I said earlier, jabari’s my guy though.

mattao313 · Post #128 » by **mattao313** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:59 pm

I wonder can we get another later first. Mark Williams looks like the perfect rim running rim protector this team needs

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reanimator · Post #129 » by **reanimator** » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:18 pm

Just having a big like banchero/chet/jabari who can roll, shoot, and be a lob target will be a HUGE upgrade over beef stew. This draft seems deep at the 4/5 so great odds to plug a clear hole up front.

mattao313 · Post #130 » by **mattao313** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:17 am

reanimator wrote:Just having a big like banchero/chet/jabari who can roll, shoot, and be a lob target will be a HUGE upgrade over beef stew. This draft seems deep at the 4/5 so great odds to plug a clear hole up front.

Never really talked much with you but I haven't seen you in a while.

I agree tho we need a real big man vertical threat and block some shots. No one is scared of Stewart going to the hole.

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Pharaoh · Post #131 » by **Pharaoh** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:22 am

Banchero is my #1 pick atm

But he's a 3/4 not a 5. He'd take Grant or Bey's spot immediately.

Sign Ayton to the max:

Ayton - Stew - Garza at the 5
Grant - Banchero - Bey (Livers) at 3/4
Cade - Hayes - FJ - Diallo - (Lee) at G

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MotownMadness · Post #132 » by **MotownMadness** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:58 pm

I'm on the Banchero band wagon as well. Just to versatile with a smooth shot at that size.

Defense might not be great or he may actually be decent there.(hard to say in that system sometimes)

Manocad · Post #133 » by **Manocad** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:09 pm

Pharaoh wrote:Banchero is my #1 pick atm

But he's a 3/4 not a 5. He'd take Grant or Bey's spot immediately.

Sign Ayton to the max:

Ayton - Stew - Garza at the 5
Grant - Banchero - Bey (Livers) at 3/4
Cade - Hayes - FJ - Diallo - (Lee) at G

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I can't see Phoenix letting Ayton go in principle so I'm assuming the thought there is that they can't afford to keep him? They already have $130M in committed salaries for 2022-23 with the cap projected to be $119M and zero committed to Ayton. Otherwise I can't see a reason why he'd leave Phoenix now assuming he's going to get a max deal from anyone who can pay it.

NYPiston · Post #134 » by **NYPiston** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:42 pm

bstein14 wrote:Banchero is easily the safest #1 pick. Putting up solid numbers as a freshman for a great team in a major conference. He'll continue to be a 19 to 20 PPG scorer at Duke shooting a high %. That said, fit wise, I could see Weaver not wanting a player that plays the same position as Grant if we want to keep Grant... I don't think we should care about fit at all it should be about who we think will be the best player. I think Chet has a higher upside because of what he can do as a 7 footer, but he has a much higher bust probability as far as NBA fit.

Hardy has been underwhelming in the G League, BUT its still super early for all these guys.

You don't pass on a young talent like Banchero because you have Grant on the roster, just like I wouldn't pass on a high end guard talent because they have Hayes on the roster. The Pistons aren't in a position to draft for need, take the best talent available and make it work hopefully with a new coach by the time this kid is ready to play.

Pharaoh · Post #135 » by **Pharaoh** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:51 pm

Manocad wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Banchero is my #1 pick atm

But he's a 3/4 not a 5. He'd take Grant or Bey's spot immediately.

Sign Ayton to the max:

Ayton - Stew - Garza at the 5
Grant - Banchero - Bey (Livers) at 3/4
Cade - Hayes - FJ - Diallo - (Lee) at G

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I can't see Phoenix letting Ayton go in principle so I'm assuming the thought there is that they can't afford to keep him? They already have $130M in committed salaries for 2022-23 with the cap projected to be $119M and zero committed to Ayton. Otherwise I can't see a reason why he'd leave Phoenix now assuming he's going to get a max deal from anyone who can pay it.

Yeah the idea is Phoenix aren't willing to pony up the money to extend their window, especially not Max money for a C when they're paying CP3, Booker & Bridges big enough money to compete in the West.

The real question will be: is anyone going to offer Ayton the Max in the first place?

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Manocad · Post #136 » by **Manocad** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:05 pm

Pharaoh wrote:
Manocad wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Banchero is my #1 pick atm

But he's a 3/4 not a 5. He'd take Grant or Bey's spot immediately.

Sign Ayton to the max:

Ayton - Stew - Garza at the 5
Grant - Banchero - Bey (Livers) at 3/4
Cade - Hayes - FJ - Diallo - (Lee) at G

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I can't see Phoenix letting Ayton go in principle so I'm assuming the thought there is that they can't afford to keep him? They already have $130M in committed salaries for 2022-23 with the cap projected to be $119M and zero committed to Ayton. Otherwise I can't see a reason why he'd leave Phoenix now assuming he's going to get a max deal from anyone who can pay it.
Yeah the idea is Phoenix aren't willing to pony up the money to extend their window, especially not Max money for a C when they're paying CP3, Booker & Bridges big enough money to compete in the West.

The real question will be: is anyone going to offer Ayton the Max in the first place?

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I personally don’t see Ayton as a max player. Max player to me means top 10 or so in the league and he’s not that. I think the talk here about giving him a max contract is a result of “Just get a really good player who fits a need and if it takes max money to get him, give it to him because I want wins now” thinking.

MotownMadness · Post #137 » by **MotownMadness** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:15 pm

He just looks like the next offensive big man star like a KAT or Pistons Blake

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MotownMadness · Post #138 » by **MotownMadness** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:19 pm

Pharaoh wrote:
Manocad wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Banchero is my #1 pick atm

But he's a 3/4 not a 5. He'd take Grant or Bey's spot immediately.

Sign Ayton to the max:

Ayton - Stew - Garza at the 5
Grant - Banchero - Bey (Livers) at 3/4
Cade - Hayes - FJ - Diallo - (Lee) at G

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I can't see Phoenix letting Ayton go in principle so I'm assuming the thought there is that they can't afford to keep him? They already have $130M in committed salaries for 2022-23 with the cap projected to be $119M and zero committed to Ayton. Otherwise I can't see a reason why he'd leave Phoenix now assuming he's going to get a max deal from anyone who can pay it.
Yeah the idea is Phoenix aren't willing to pony up the money to extend their window, especially not Max money for a C when they're paying CP3, Booker & Bridges big enough money to compete in the West.

The real question will be: is anyone going to offer Ayton the Max in the first place?

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If they do let him go they would probably at least want something back cause they're fringe contenders. Maybe a Grant sign n trade on his 20 mil deal for another year to try another run before rebuilding a few pieces.

MotownMadness · Post #139 » by **MotownMadness** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:38 pm

ESPN double header starting at 7:30 and 9:30 tonight with a couple of possible Piston picks.

Florida State
vs
Purdue (Jaden Ivey)

Duke (Banchero)
vs
Ohio State

tmorgan · Post #140 » by **tmorgan** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 12:24 am

Banchero shot reasonably well in the Gonzaga game, but what should sell you on him over Holmgren is the bullying he did. Chet is long af, but if you body him he can’t do anything about it. He can’t guard bigs, even semi-bigs like Paolo.

Banchero looks every bit like a bigger Carmelo. Sure, if he has the same weird attitude and lack of defensive commitment, that’s a problem, but elite scorer that needs some defensive help is one helluva floor.