Official 2020 Nba Draft Thread

[tmorgan]

Yeah, Killian is def my guy in this draft. He’s not going to arrive in the NBA 100% ready, but he’ll be able to play, work on his game (aka right hand), and will almost certainly develop into a good starting PG. too skilled, too big, too talented not to.

Ball could be good, but I don’t think his upside is any higher than Hayes. No other wannabe PG in this draft is close to those two for ceiling. Some potentially dynamic scoring guards, but not legit point guards.

[dVs33]

I'm on the Hayes Bandagon too. When I first started looking at prospects that were projected around where we're picking liked Hayes and no one else has jumped out as a contender. He looks like the most likely to succeed as a 2 way player imo. He has a solid base to work from.

Yeah, Killian is def my guy in this draft. He’s not going to arrive in the NBA 100% ready, but he’ll be able to play, work on his game (aka right hand), and will almost certainly develop into a good starting PG. too skilled, too big, too talented not to.

Ball could be good, but I don’t think his upside is any higher than Hayes. No other wannabe PG in this draft is close to those two for ceiling. Some potentially dynamic scoring guards, but not legit point guards.

[ducler]

I'm with you on Killian. He's a already a better shooter than Ball, his ceiling is not a lot lower than him, he's more coachable and will fit easier in any roster, and even if he doesn't develop as a good starting PG, he will translate way easier than Ball as a starting SG or a combo guard off the bench.

[BJK1]

The latest mock from Omari Sankofa at the Freep:

https://www.freep.com/picture-gallery/sports/nba/pistons/2020/11/13/nba-mock-draft-2020-detroit-pistons/6270051002/

[edmunder_prc]

Magic want to move up: Offering #15 and Aaron Gordon.

I would give them #7 for that and hope for Aaron Nesmith or Tyrell Terry.

Aaron Gordon, Sekou and Wood is a strong frontcourt.

Blake can be traded for anything that includes picks. Drose traded for a late 1st. Someone mentioned a trade that gets Corey Joseph. He could lead the team better than Drose. If Nesmith is picked, thats a SG. Brown stays at backup PG to play with Kennard.

[SamFlow]

Magic want to move up: Offering #15 and Aaron Gordon.

I would give them #7 for that and hope for Aaron Nesmith or Tyrell Terry.

Aaron Gordon, Sekou and Wood is a strong frontcourt.

Blake can be traded for anything that includes picks. Drose traded for a late 1st. Someone mentioned a trade that gets Corey Joseph. He could lead the team better than Drose. If Nesmith is picked, thats a SG. Brown stays at backup PG to play with Kennard.

I'd want more than that. Taking on his cap space. and trading down.
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Tyrell Terry, Aaron Nesmith, and Bolmero. Bolmero a poor mans lamelo. If we could get those three, I'd be fine with the draft. a point forward and two crazy shooters.

[BJK1]

No thanks to Aaron Gordon for me. Incredible, highlight reel worthy dunks, but like a career 43% on FGs, 31% from 3 (30% this past season), and 70% from the FT line. He’d be this team’s iteration of Josh Smith.

[chrbal]

How many draft picks do you think Detroit will choose this year? Trading for more, trading for less, taking contracts for more. How many new players via the draft do you think Detroit will end up getting out of this years draft?

I'm going with 3. +/- 1.

I’m saying 3; stay at 7, acquire a 1st by being part of a trade where we wind up being a dump off spot for an unwanted contract, buy an early/mid 2nd or (if possible) a late 1st.

I’m thinking we will be scouting a decent amount of guys who may go undrafted to try and land a couple.

[BJK1]

CBS Sports player comps for some of the top 2020 prospects:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2020-player-comparisons-for-lamelo-ball-james-wiseman-anthony-edwards-and-other-top-prospects/

[Pharaoh]

Kind of funny that over the last few weeks Okoro seems to be the guy slipping in the lottery while Williams has risen.

Both have a lot to work on offensively and I see them as very similar players.


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[jakebernat]

this draft and offseason are gonna be pretty wild in my opinion. players are gonna be moving all over the place, can’t wait to see how it shakes out and what direction weaver decides to take.

[tmorgan]

Pretty sure the ship has sailed on Aaron Gordon being anything more than an OK player. Not interested right now, not what a rebuilder needs.

[vic]

I still say take Isaac Okoro and run.

Hes the only certified winner in this draft. And hes done it against everyone else in this class that is supposedly better than him. Guaranteed to produce wins on the basketball court.

Watching Jimmy Butler dominate an entire NBA finals game without shooting 1 3 pointer makes me kind of unbothered about his shooting. Hes a winner. Draft shooters around him.

People dont complain about Lukas shooting but he barely shoots 32%. Spacing the floor is about much more than 3pt%

I hope he gets past Cleveland but it doesn't look like it.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2020/11/2020-nba-draft-isaac-okoro-is-willing-to-do-whatever-it-takes-to-win-can-be-elite-two-way-player-in-andre-iguodala-mold.html

[MotownMadness]

I still say take Isaac Okoro and run.

Hes the only certified winner in this draft. And hes done it against everyone else in this class that is supposedly better than him. Guaranteed to produce wins on the basketball court.

Watching Jimmy Butler dominate an entire NBA finals game without shooting 1 3 pointer makes me kind of unbothered about his shooting. Hes a winner. Draft shooters around him.

People dont complain about Lukas shooting but he barely shoots 32%. Spacing the floor is about much more than 3pt%

I hope he gets past Cleveland but it doesn't look like it.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2020/11/2020-nba-draft-isaac-okoro-is-willing-to-do-whatever-it-takes-to-win-can-be-elite-two-way-player-in-andre-iguodala-mold.html

The problem with Okoro is he lacks that type of Alpha mentality that a guy like Butler has. I watched pretty much all the 1st round guys that I could when they played and Okoro just settles into that role player glue guy type all the time.

I still think his best comparison is Winslow

[vic]

I still say take Isaac Okoro and run.

Hes the only certified winner in this draft. And hes done it against everyone else in this class that is supposedly better than him. Guaranteed to produce wins on the basketball court.

Watching Jimmy Butler dominate an entire NBA finals game without shooting 1 3 pointer makes me kind of unbothered about his shooting. Hes a winner. Draft shooters around him.

People dont complain about Lukas shooting but he barely shoots 32%. Spacing the floor is about much more than 3pt%

I hope he gets past Cleveland but it doesn't look like it.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2020/11/2020-nba-draft-isaac-okoro-is-willing-to-do-whatever-it-takes-to-win-can-be-elite-two-way-player-in-andre-iguodala-mold.html

The problem with Okoro is he lacks that type of Alpha mentality that a guy like Butler has. I watched pretty much all the 1st round guys that I could when they played and Okoro just settles into that role player glue guy type all the time.

I still think his best comparison is Winslow

That's my thing. He led his high school team to 32-0 record but his teammate and best friend won Mr. Basketball.
He led the USA to a lopsided victory over Killian Hayes and had the best plus minus on the team - better than Jalen Green, Josh Christopher, and other so called Alphas.

Theres a lot of Alphas that are more comfortable being a losing Alpha dog.

Me personally, i want the Pistons to get back to Championships. You gotta have Betas that will win you games while the alphas are trying to see who can pee the farthest. That's RealGMing.

Thats how the Bulls and Warriors built dynasties while OKC had 3 MVPs in their hands and no Chips.

Me personally I want to see Weaver build a champion not okc 2.0. I hope he learned something.

[MotownMadness]

I still say take Isaac Okoro and run.

Hes the only certified winner in this draft. And hes done it against everyone else in this class that is supposedly better than him. Guaranteed to produce wins on the basketball court.

Watching Jimmy Butler dominate an entire NBA finals game without shooting 1 3 pointer makes me kind of unbothered about his shooting. Hes a winner. Draft shooters around him.

People dont complain about Lukas shooting but he barely shoots 32%. Spacing the floor is about much more than 3pt%

I hope he gets past Cleveland but it doesn't look like it.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2020/11/2020-nba-draft-isaac-okoro-is-willing-to-do-whatever-it-takes-to-win-can-be-elite-two-way-player-in-andre-iguodala-mold.html

The problem with Okoro is he lacks that type of Alpha mentality that a guy like Butler has. I watched pretty much all the 1st round guys that I could when they played and Okoro just settles into that role player glue guy type all the time.

I still think his best comparison is Winslow

That's my thing. He led his high school team to 32-0 record but his teammate and best friend won Mr. Basketball.
He led the USA to a lopsided victory over Killian Hayes and had the best plus minus on the team - better than Jalen Green, Josh Christopher, and other so called Alphas.

Theres a lot of Alphas that are more comfortable being a losing Alpha dog.

Me personally, i want the Pistons to get back to Championships. You gotta have Betas that will win you games while the alphas are trying to see who can pee the farthest. That's RealGMing.

Thats how the Bulls and Warriors built dynasties while OKC had 3 MVPs in their hands and no Chips.

Me personally I want to see Weaver build a champion not okc 2.0. I hope he learned something.

I want Hayes but wouldn't be upset with Okoro either. You make some interesting points about him though.

I also didn't want Kawhi when he was mocked to us so who knows

[440BB]

I think we all agree it's a crapshoot. A good starting point is to find the player SVG would most likely draft and avoid him like the plague.

[vic]

The problem with Okoro is he lacks that type of Alpha mentality that a guy like Butler has. I watched pretty much all the 1st round guys that I could when they played and Okoro just settles into that role player glue guy type all the time.

I still think his best comparison is Winslow

That's my thing. He led his high school team to 32-0 record but his teammate and best friend won Mr. Basketball.
He led the USA to a lopsided victory over Killian Hayes and had the best plus minus on the team - better than Jalen Green, Josh Christopher, and other so called Alphas.

Theres a lot of Alphas that are more comfortable being a losing Alpha dog.

Me personally, i want the Pistons to get back to Championships. You gotta have Betas that will win you games while the alphas are trying to see who can pee the farthest. That's RealGMing.

Thats how the Bulls and Warriors built dynasties while OKC had 3 MVPs in their hands and no Chips.

Me personally I want to see Weaver build a champion not okc 2.0. I hope he learned something.

I want Hayes but wouldn't be upset with Okoro either. You make some interesting points about him though.

I also didn't want Kawhi when he was mocked to us so who knows

I was all over Kawhi. I wanted him to be the next SF to takeover for Tayshaun at the time.

I also wanted Biyombo too, because the Pistons needed a big. Can't win them all.

But I'd guarantee Okoro will make his team better than anybody in this draft, concerning getting to championship level competition. Hes not an empty stats guy, hes just too impactful.

[BJK1]

I really like Okoro. The guys athleticism, defense, passing instincts, and approach to the game are all above reproach. However, his shooting numbers in college were concerning. He was really bad from the college 3, shooting 29%. His offense was largely limited to driving to the rim (which he is good at), but NBA defenders will sag off of him to take his lanes away, essentially daring him to shoot.

While the optimistic comparison to Okoro is Jimmy Butler, the fact is that while Butler isn’t a threat from 3, he’s got a nice mid range game. And if he’s fouled going to the rim, Butler is a really good, clutch FT shooter (84% career avg.). Okoro shot 67% from the FT line last season, so pretty unreliable there. He’s undoubtedly worked hard over the past several months to try to improve his shooting (he stated that he’s added more arc to his shot), so we’ll see. But the shooting concerns are valid.

[mattao313]

I really like Okoro. The guys athleticism, defense, passing instincts, and approach to the game are all above reproach. However, his shooting numbers in college were concerning. He was really bad from the college 3, shooting 29%. His offense was largely limited to driving to the rim (which he is good at), but NBA defenders will sag off of him to take his lanes away, essentially daring him to shoot.

While the optimistic comparison to Okoro is Jimmy Butler, the fact is that while Butler isn’t a threat from 3, he’s got a nice mid range game. And if he’s fouled going to the rim, Butler is a really good, clutch FT shooter (84% career avg.). Okoro shot 67% from the FT line last season, so pretty unreliable there. He’s undoubtedly worked hard over the past several months to try to improve his shooting (he stated that he’s added more arc to his shot), so we’ll see. But the shooting concerns are valid.

every year the athletic guy who cant shoot is compared to Butler and Kawhi, they are the exception to the rule most guys will not develop like that. I see more of MKG/ Hollis-Jefferson/ OG Anunoby I think he has a high floor but so so ceiling