Cade's agent and "team" coming to Detroit to meet with Weaver about when he can start playing.

[Manocad]

Team coulda had him come in for 5 minutes off the bench to satisfy people.

Sure, but the risk there is that he aggravates it further and misses more time. I don’t think anyone wants to either put Cade at risk or have to answer to that one.

[DetroitSho]

Team coulda had him come in for 5 minutes off the bench to satisfy people.

Shoulda just had him jump center and immediately foul and been done the rest of the game. SHEESH.

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[thesack12]

No one is arguing play him hurt. The gripe was about how he has be hurt for a month with a ankle roll. Instead of just giving a time of recovery like any other time they kept giving a possibility he'd play games. They could have just said he'd be out for 3-4 week and been done with it.

That's where the conspiracies come from not like teams don't hide things at times.

Being surprised about fans being upset about not knowing when the #1 pick is playing is silly.

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Or... they looked at his ankle and didn't think it would take that long to heal... so then they said he'd recover soon... and then they got more information afterwards via testing him or whatever that he wasn't progressing so they said it would take longer.... so then they said as much... and then maybe he looked better at some point after that... so they reported about that too??

How on earth is that not a plausible and very likely scenario? Instead of: Oh, the Pistons must be purposely misleading people to sell tickets on opening night (which I might add would likely have done quite well anyway Cade or no Cade).

I hate to break it to you but Weaver and Casey have far more important things to do right now than to be scheming about how to dupe Pistons fans about injury statuses.

So yeah. It is silly to be upset at the Pistons for Cade not playing. And the point you are making is silly as well.

Ok so you believe sports doctors can't give a estimate of recovery for one of the most common injuries in basketball?

Sorry but that's hard to believe.

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Yeah, apparently risk of setbacks and having to change injury timelines is only exclusive to the Detroit Pistons. Which apparently is why they didn't provide a tangible timeline for several weeks.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/injuries/

The league wide injury report sure does have a lot of time frames attached to specific players/injuries. But hey man team doctors can't predict the future, and watch out for those twisted ankles they are FAR too volatile to make the super risky action of putting a timeline on them.

[Manocad]

Yeah, apparently risk of setbacks and having to change injury timelines is only exclusive to the Detroit Pistons. Which is why they didn't provide a tangible timeline for several weeks.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/injuries/

The league wide injury report sure does have a lot of time frames attached to specific players/injuries. But hey man team doctors can't predict the future, and watch out for those twisted ankles they are FAR too volatile to make the super risky action on putting a timeline on them.

There are only two categories: "Out until at least..." and "Game time decision" with a little less than half the injuries being "Game time decision." Know what the translation of "Game time decision" is? Day to day, which is "Don't know right now. May not know tomorrow either." And since every single team's injuries are listed under the same two categories, the Pistons doctors clearly operate in no different a manner than any other team's doctors.

As for all those other timelines of "Out until at least..."? The translation there is NOT "WILL PLAY the next game after this date." It's simply "Will not play until at least this date." So in the grand scheme it's not really a timeline in the sense some of you are referring to.

Let's apply the known Pistons statements about Cade's ankle to a possible scenario. Cade's practicing, doing what he needs to do, and gets checked out every single day.
"How's it feeling today?"
"Pretty good, still a little sore."
"Ok, let's keep at it and check again tomorrow."
Status: Game time decision/day to day

"How's it feeling today?"
"Pretty good, still a little sore but seems like it might be getting better."
"Ok, let's keep at it and check again tomorrow."
Status: On track to play Game 1

At some point, Cade says, "Now the pain is getting worse."
Status: Out until at least October 30.

Is that a realistic scenario? Absolutely, 100% realistic. We don't know if based on perhaps a decreasing pain level at some point Cade's workout activity was stepped up and caused a little setback. Now, if that scenario played itself out before Game 1 and the Pistons simply didn't disclose it to the public in order to not damage ticket sales for Game 1, go ahead and bust their chops all you want for it, especially if you had bought tickets or were planning on going to the game just to see Cade play. But turning this into some bigger, deeper and nefarious action on the organization's part that is fully deserving of the full wrath of internet warriors who had no intention of attending the game anyway is ridiculous. And as long as anyone wants to argue that it isn't, I'll argue that it is.

[thesack12]

Yeah, apparently risk of setbacks and having to change injury timelines is only exclusive to the Detroit Pistons. Which is why they didn't provide a tangible timeline for several weeks.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/injuries/

The league wide injury report sure does have a lot of time frames attached to specific players/injuries. But hey man team doctors can't predict the future, and watch out for those twisted ankles they are FAR too volatile to make the super risky action on putting a timeline on them.

There are only two categories: "Out until at least..." and "Game time decision" with a little less than half the injuries being "Game time decision." Know what the translation of "Game time decision" is? Day to day, which is "Don't know right now. May not know tomorrow either." And since every single team's injuries are listed under the same two categories, the Pistons doctors clearly operate in no different a manner than any other team's doctors.

As for all those other timelines of "Out until at least..."? The translation there is NOT "WILL PLAY the next game after this date." It's simply "Will not play until at least this date." So in the grand scheme it's not really a timeline in the sense some of you are referring to.

Let's apply the known Pistons statements about Cade's ankle to a possible scenario. Cade's practicing, doing what he needs to do, and gets checked out every single day.
"How's it feeling today?"
"Pretty good, still a little sore."
"Ok, let's keep at it and check again tomorrow."
Status: Game time decision/day to day

"How's it feeling today?"
"Pretty good, still a little sore but seems like it might be getting better."
"Ok, let's keep at it and check again tomorrow."
Status: On track to play Game 1

At some point, Cade says, "Now the pain is getting worse."
Status: Out until at least October 30.

Is that a realistic scenario? Absolutely, 100% realistic. We don't know if based on perhaps a decreasing pain level at some point Cade's workout activity was stepped up and caused a little setback. Now, if that scenario played itself out before Game 1 and the Pistons simply didn't disclose it to the public in order to not damage ticket sales for Game 1, go ahead and bust their chops all you want for it, especially if you had bought tickets or were planning on going to the game just to see Cade play. But turning this into some bigger, deeper and nefarious action on the organization's part that is fully deserving of the full wrath of internet warriors who had no intention of attending the game anyway is ridiculous. And as long as anyone wants to argue that it isn't, I'll argue that it is.

Teams and doctors are putting time frames far past their next scheduled game. So they are "predicting the future" to a certain degree.

Day to day, or GTD, injuries (which wasn't even declared for the first several weeks for Cade) don't linger for a month. Those kind of injuries are measured in weeks. Even if they are unsure, that's where the term "out indefinitely" comes into play. Which is essentially what Cade has been, but them not classifying it as such leaves the hope open that he was going to play in the preseason, then the season opener, etc.

Obviously they did an MRI on Cade's ankle when he got hurt and any type of ankle sprain or anything worse would have shown up. So either they have a flawed MRI machine, or the team doctors can't read the scans, or the team chose not to classify it as anything worse than a "very mild turned ankle." "Very mild" injuries to anything, don't keep players out for a month.

The team's choice of words, lack of timeline, and overall quietness of the situation is what people have taken issue with.

Regardless, people are allowed to feel a certain way about something involving a professional sports team they follow. Sports teams exist for public consumption. Just because it didn't effect you in the same way that people are expressing their frustration over doesn't mean its being "childish". It just means people consume and react to things differently. In this particular case, I see no reason why people should be ridiculed for expressing frustration that their team has been far less than transparent regarding the health of the face of the franchise. Its not like they are asking or expecting anything extra, just some sort of tangible timeline which is provided for the extreme vast majority of all other professional sports injuries.

[Manocad]

Yeah, apparently risk of setbacks and having to change injury timelines is only exclusive to the Detroit Pistons. Which is why they didn't provide a tangible timeline for several weeks.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/injuries/

The league wide injury report sure does have a lot of time frames attached to specific players/injuries. But hey man team doctors can't predict the future, and watch out for those twisted ankles they are FAR too volatile to make the super risky action on putting a timeline on them.

There are only two categories: "Out until at least..." and "Game time decision" with a little less than half the injuries being "Game time decision." Know what the translation of "Game time decision" is? Day to day, which is "Don't know right now. May not know tomorrow either." And since every single team's injuries are listed under the same two categories, the Pistons doctors clearly operate in no different a manner than any other team's doctors.

As for all those other timelines of "Out until at least..."? The translation there is NOT "WILL PLAY the next game after this date." It's simply "Will not play until at least this date." So in the grand scheme it's not really a timeline in the sense some of you are referring to.

Let's apply the known Pistons statements about Cade's ankle to a possible scenario. Cade's practicing, doing what he needs to do, and gets checked out every single day.
"How's it feeling today?"
"Pretty good, still a little sore."
"Ok, let's keep at it and check again tomorrow."
Status: Game time decision/day to day

"How's it feeling today?"
"Pretty good, still a little sore but seems like it might be getting better."
"Ok, let's keep at it and check again tomorrow."
Status: On track to play Game 1

At some point, Cade says, "Now the pain is getting worse."
Status: Out until at least October 30.

Is that a realistic scenario? Absolutely, 100% realistic. We don't know if based on perhaps a decreasing pain level at some point Cade's workout activity was stepped up and caused a little setback. Now, if that scenario played itself out before Game 1 and the Pistons simply didn't disclose it to the public in order to not damage ticket sales for Game 1, go ahead and bust their chops all you want for it, especially if you had bought tickets or were planning on going to the game just to see Cade play. But turning this into some bigger, deeper and nefarious action on the organization's part that is fully deserving of the full wrath of internet warriors who had no intention of attending the game anyway is ridiculous. And as long as anyone wants to argue that it isn't, I'll argue that it is.

Teams and doctors are putting time frames far past their next scheduled game. So they are "predicting the future" to a certain degree.

Day to day, or GTD, injuries (which wasn't even declared for the first several weeks for Cade) don't linger for a month. Those kind of injuries are measured in weeks. Even if they are unsure, that's where the term "out indefinitely" comes into play. Which is essentially what Cade has been, but them not classifying it as such leaves the hope open that he was going to play in the preseason, then the season opener, etc.

Obviously they did an MRI on Cade's ankle when he got hurt and any type of ankle sprain or anything worse would have shown up. So either they have a flawed MRI machine, or the team doctors can't read the scans, or the team chose not to classify it as anything worse than a "very mild turned ankle." "Very mild" injuries to anything, don't keep players out for a month.

The team's choice of words, lack of timeline, and overall quietness of the situation is what people have taken issue with.

Regardless, people are allowed to feel a certain way about something involving a professional sports team they follow. Sports team's exist for public consumption. Just because it didn't effect you in the same way that people are expressing their frustration over doesn't mean its being "childish". It just means people consume and react to things differently. In this particular case, I see no reason why people should be ridiculed for expressing frustration that their team has been far less than transparent regarding the health of the face of the franchise. Its not like they are asking or expecting anything extra, just some sort of tangible timeline which is provided for the extremely vast majority of all other professional sports injuries.

For the final time, I never said someone wasn't allowed to feel a certain way. I simply said that if you're going to put those feelings on social media then you are implicitly seeking a reaction. That reaction may be sympathy, and that reaction may be "Seriously, bro? THAT'S what you're pissed about and you weren't even planning on going to the game? Lighten up, Francis." That's MY feeling/reaction to that post, which obviously using your logic I'm allowed to have and post about. Don't like it? Don't post it. Pretty simple.

To boil it down to brass tacks, the team hasn't been quiet about anything. They simply didn't give an answer of "Cade absolutely will play in Game 1" or "Cade absolutely will not play in Game 1" prior to the game. That's it. And because that's what some people wanted to hear--and let's be honest, they were only going to be happy if it was "will play"--they're irritated...because they didn't get what they wanted. Not that it was bad for Cade's well-being, not that it was bad for the team in general, not that it was bad for the team's future. It was bad for THEM, specifically their emotions only. And yep, I'll call that childish all day every day.

[DetroitSho]

FFS this is the song that never ends.....

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[thesack12]

There are only two categories: "Out until at least..." and "Game time decision" with a little less than half the injuries being "Game time decision." Know what the translation of "Game time decision" is? Day to day, which is "Don't know right now. May not know tomorrow either." And since every single team's injuries are listed under the same two categories, the Pistons doctors clearly operate in no different a manner than any other team's doctors.

As for all those other timelines of "Out until at least..."? The translation there is NOT "WILL PLAY the next game after this date." It's simply "Will not play until at least this date." So in the grand scheme it's not really a timeline in the sense some of you are referring to.

Let's apply the known Pistons statements about Cade's ankle to a possible scenario. Cade's practicing, doing what he needs to do, and gets checked out every single day.
"How's it feeling today?"
"Pretty good, still a little sore."
"Ok, let's keep at it and check again tomorrow."
Status: Game time decision/day to day

"How's it feeling today?"
"Pretty good, still a little sore but seems like it might be getting better."
"Ok, let's keep at it and check again tomorrow."
Status: On track to play Game 1

At some point, Cade says, "Now the pain is getting worse."
Status: Out until at least October 30.

Is that a realistic scenario? Absolutely, 100% realistic. We don't know if based on perhaps a decreasing pain level at some point Cade's workout activity was stepped up and caused a little setback. Now, if that scenario played itself out before Game 1 and the Pistons simply didn't disclose it to the public in order to not damage ticket sales for Game 1, go ahead and bust their chops all you want for it, especially if you had bought tickets or were planning on going to the game just to see Cade play. But turning this into some bigger, deeper and nefarious action on the organization's part that is fully deserving of the full wrath of internet warriors who had no intention of attending the game anyway is ridiculous. And as long as anyone wants to argue that it isn't, I'll argue that it is.

Teams and doctors are putting time frames far past their next scheduled game. So they are "predicting the future" to a certain degree.

Day to day, or GTD, injuries (which wasn't even declared for the first several weeks for Cade) don't linger for a month. Those kind of injuries are measured in weeks. Even if they are unsure, that's where the term "out indefinitely" comes into play. Which is essentially what Cade has been, but them not classifying it as such leaves the hope open that he was going to play in the preseason, then the season opener, etc.

Obviously they did an MRI on Cade's ankle when he got hurt and any type of ankle sprain or anything worse would have shown up. So either they have a flawed MRI machine, or the team doctors can't read the scans, or the team chose not to classify it as anything worse than a "very mild turned ankle." "Very mild" injuries to anything, don't keep players out for a month.

The team's choice of words, lack of timeline, and overall quietness of the situation is what people have taken issue with.

Regardless, people are allowed to feel a certain way about something involving a professional sports team they follow. Sports team's exist for public consumption. Just because it didn't effect you in the same way that people are expressing their frustration over doesn't mean its being "childish". It just means people consume and react to things differently. In this particular case, I see no reason why people should be ridiculed for expressing frustration that their team has been far less than transparent regarding the health of the face of the franchise. Its not like they are asking or expecting anything extra, just some sort of tangible timeline which is provided for the extremely vast majority of all other professional sports injuries.

For the final time, I never said someone wasn't allowed to feel a certain way. I simply said that if you're going to put those feelings on social media then you are implicitly seeking a reaction. That reaction may be sympathy, and that reaction may be "Seriously, bro? THAT'S what you're pissed about and you weren't even planning on going to the game? Lighten up, Francis." That's MY feeling/reaction to that post, which obviously using your logic I'm allowed to have and post about. Don't like it? Don't post it. Pretty simple.

To boil it down to brass tacks, the team hasn't been quiet about anything. They simply didn't give an answer of "Cade absolutely will play in Game 1" or "Cade absolutely will not play in Game 1" prior to the game. That's it. And because that's what some people wanted to hear--and let's be honest, they were only going to be happy if it was "will play"--they're irritated...because they didn't get what they wanted. Not that it was bad for Cade's well-being, not that it was bad for the team in general, not that it was bad for the team's future. It was bad for THEM, specifically their emotions only. And yep, I'll call that childish all day every day.

I realize its tough for you to see this specific situation from someone else's perspective because you are on record saying you live in the area and don't buy tickets, but there are plenty of people who had made plans to travel long distances to attend the game primarily because it was scheduled to be Cade's first career game on top of the prepackaged excitement of it being opening night.

Many of those people made financial (buying tickets, booking a room, etc) and social (time off work, planning supervision for their kids, etc) commitments to go the opener.

Cade playing or not playing played a HUGE factor in those people's decisions.

Cade's announced status of "very mild" turned ankle on October 1st, is not a deterrent to making those plans for people. But any announcement like out 3-5 weeks, out indefinitely, will be re-evaluated on October 30 (all of which could have easily applied here), would all be HUGE deterrents for people making this commitments/plans. A lot of those people, would have just aborted. Which is exactly what I did once it became clear that the team was not being anything close to transparent.

36 hours before the opener Cade gets ruled out, then almost immediately after that he gets ruled out for the upcoming road trip ( 3 more games), which is by far the earliest he has been ruled out of anything yet. A "very mild turned ankle" on October 1 doesn't get you ruled out for 4 games in Late October. It just doesn't. Either there was a setback, or the initial injury was worse than they reported.

Some People are upset because the lack of transparency effected their lives, not because the only thing that would make them happy was Cade play, while risking his long term health.

This type of situation didn't effect YOU specifically, cool. But it did effect others. So I'm fine moving forward with my "childish" emotions.

[440BB]

It could be that after last year's botched start to Hayes' career, the team is being extra cautious.

Here's another possible scenario:
A young player who feels their team is counting on them and full of youthful optimism tells the staff that he feels pretty good when in reality he's not yet healed enough to avoid likely re-injury. Most young players feel they can play through anything. The Pistons may have been going with Cade's optimistic feedback, then had to adjust as he returned to the court too soon and reality set in.

I give the Pistons a pass on this more than some here because I watched that happen when my son rolled his ankle in practice just before the season his senior year. His team was on track to have a shot at the state championship and he was the captain and a key player. Xrays and an MRI looked good. The orthopedic doctor and I asked him multiple times about pain and he always said it felt pretty good. He wore a brace, his coach taped the ankle for five minutes before each game and kept him out of practice.

At the end of season banquet, his coach pointed out that the awards he won were done "playing all year on one leg". He later admitted he downplayed the pain because he didn't want to miss games with his teammates counting on him. He needed that brace while playing through his college years and it finally got strong again, five years later. I wish we could have convinced him to sit out a month or so in the first place.

I will never be in favor of rushing an ankle sprain, just like a pulled groin - they're likely to recur. Veterans know better when to shut it down while youngsters just want to play. Cunningham is a number one pick, a natural leader and young, so he is likely chomping at the bit. Better to have him start his season at full strength than see him have an ongoing issue, no matter who is disappointed.

[thesack12]

^^^ The label of "sprain" has never been connected to Cade's ankle tho.

"Very mild rolled ankle" is all we got. Which carries a very different status, than someting like "high ankle sprain," Which in my opinion is what Cade has been dealing with.

"Very Mild rolled ankles" occur in most professional sports games. Whether its a guy going up for a rebound and comes down on somebody's foot, or somebody getting wrenched in the middle of a pile after a gang tackle, or a dude hits the corner of 2nd base awkwardly on his way to 3rd. That's not to say you can't suffer a serious injury in those types of situations, but "very mild ankle rolls", if we are taking it for face value, require not much more than walking it off, going to the bench to stretch it out, and a lot of times those guys end up returning to the game. Even if they can't return they are good to go after a couple days rest.

[whitehops]

i'll get laughed at but there's something just icky to me about this situation.

- October 1 cade gets a "very mild" ankle injury
- Casey says he isn't worried about cade missing the preseason opener (a home game)
- cade misses the preseason opener on Oct. 6, misses the preseason
- Oct. 17 casey says cade is on course to play in the season opener (a home game)
- Oct. 19 cade is ruled out for the season opener
- Oct. 20 Weaver says that cade is out for the road trip but they hope to have him back for their next home game

who wants to bet they say cade is "on track" to play on Oct. 30 leading up to the home game and then rule him out last minute?

also, unless he's staying in detroit when the team goes on the road (which i doubt) then it's odd they would definitively rule him out for the road games and specifically say "but maybe for the next home game". part of me thinks that casey and weaver are getting instructions from gores on how to handle this situation....

[DetroitSho]

Teams and doctors are putting time frames far past their next scheduled game. So they are "predicting the future" to a certain degree.

Day to day, or GTD, injuries (which wasn't even declared for the first several weeks for Cade) don't linger for a month. Those kind of injuries are measured in weeks. Even if they are unsure, that's where the term "out indefinitely" comes into play. Which is essentially what Cade has been, but them not classifying it as such leaves the hope open that he was going to play in the preseason, then the season opener, etc.

Obviously they did an MRI on Cade's ankle when he got hurt and any type of ankle sprain or anything worse would have shown up. So either they have a flawed MRI machine, or the team doctors can't read the scans, or the team chose not to classify it as anything worse than a "very mild turned ankle." "Very mild" injuries to anything, don't keep players out for a month.

The team's choice of words, lack of timeline, and overall quietness of the situation is what people have taken issue with.

Regardless, people are allowed to feel a certain way about something involving a professional sports team they follow. Sports team's exist for public consumption. Just because it didn't effect you in the same way that people are expressing their frustration over doesn't mean its being "childish". It just means people consume and react to things differently. In this particular case, I see no reason why people should be ridiculed for expressing frustration that their team has been far less than transparent regarding the health of the face of the franchise. Its not like they are asking or expecting anything extra, just some sort of tangible timeline which is provided for the extremely vast majority of all other professional sports injuries.

For the final time, I never said someone wasn't allowed to feel a certain way. I simply said that if you're going to put those feelings on social media then you are implicitly seeking a reaction. That reaction may be sympathy, and that reaction may be "Seriously, bro? THAT'S what you're pissed about and you weren't even planning on going to the game? Lighten up, Francis." That's MY feeling/reaction to that post, which obviously using your logic I'm allowed to have and post about. Don't like it? Don't post it. Pretty simple.

To boil it down to brass tacks, the team hasn't been quiet about anything. They simply didn't give an answer of "Cade absolutely will play in Game 1" or "Cade absolutely will not play in Game 1" prior to the game. That's it. And because that's what some people wanted to hear--and let's be honest, they were only going to be happy if it was "will play"--they're irritated...because they didn't get what they wanted. Not that it was bad for Cade's well-being, not that it was bad for the team in general, not that it was bad for the team's future. It was bad for THEM, specifically their emotions only. And yep, I'll call that childish all day every day.

I realize its tough for you to see this specific situation from someone else's perspective because you are on record saying you live in the area and don't buy tickets, but there are plenty of people who had made plans to travel long distances to attend the game primarily because it was scheduled to be Cade's first career game on top of the prepackaged excitement of it being opening night.

Many of those people made financial (buying tickets, booking a room, etc) and social (time off work, planning supervision for their kids, etc) commitments to go the opener.

Cade playing or not playing played a HUGE factor in those people's decisions.

Cade's announced status of "very mild" turned ankle on October 1st, is not a deterrent to making those plans for people. But any announcement like out 3-5 weeks, out indefinitely, will be re-evaluated on October 30 (all of which could have easily applied here), would all be HUGE deterrents for people making this commitments/plans. A lot of those people, would have just aborted. Which is exactly what I did once it became clear that the team was not being anything close to transparent.

36 hours before the opener Cade gets ruled out, then almost immediately after that he gets ruled out for the upcoming road trip ( 3 more games), which is by far the earliest he has been ruled out of anything yet. A "very mild turned ankle" on October 1 doesn't get you ruled out for 4 games in Late October. It just doesn't. Either there was a setback, or the initial injury was worse than they reported.

Some People are upset because the lack of transparency effected their lives, not because the only thing that would make them happy was Cade play, while risking his long term health.

This type of situation didn't effect YOU specifically, cool. But it did effect others. So I'm fine moving forward with my "childish" emotions.

To Manocad's point, I don't even think he's focusing on the people who actually did in fact go to the game thinking Cade would be playing.

The question is, are you one of those people? I've yet to see anyone in this thread (maybe I overlooked it) actually state that they fell victim to the Pistons playing it close to vest and in fact bought a ticket. So, from his perspective (farbeit for me to get in his head), if your annoyance is with falling victim to the Pistons being coy but you yourself didn't fall victim, what really are you annoyed with in the end?

*this is not me asking but providing 3rd party eyes for clarity's sake.

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[Canadafan]

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[MotownMadness]

i'll get laughed at but there's something just icky to me about this situation.

- October 1 cade gets a "very mild" ankle injury
- Casey says he isn't worried about cade missing the preseason opener (a home game)
- cade misses the preseason opener on Oct. 6, misses the preseason
- Oct. 17 casey says cade is on course to play in the season opener (a home game)
- Oct. 19 cade is ruled out for the season opener
- Oct. 20 Weaver says that cade is out for the road trip but they hope to have him back for their next home game

who wants to bet they say cade is "on track" to play on Oct. 30 leading up to the home game and then rule him out last minute?

also, unless he's staying in detroit when the team goes on the road (which i doubt) then it's odd they would definitively rule him out for the road games and specifically say "but maybe for the next home game". part of me thinks that casey and weaver are getting instructions from gores on how to handle this situation....

Sounds like they want nothing to stop the sell of tickets

[MotownMadness]

Read on Twitter

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Why does that make it sound more serious? Something isn't right with all this.

[thesack12]

To Manocad's point, I don't even think he's focusing on the people who actually did in fact go to the game thinking Cade would be playing.

The question is, are you one of those people? I've yet to see anyone in this thread (maybe I overlooked it) actually state that they fell victim to the Pistons playing it close to vest and in fact bought a ticket. So, from his perspective (farbeit for me to get in his head), if your annoyance is with falling victim to the Pistons being coy but you yourself didn't fall victim, what really are you annoyed with in the end?

*this is not me asking but providing 3rd party eyes for clarity's sake.

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Myself and a few others have expressed how they were personally effected by this ordeal. Relevant talk on the subject is spread out in a few different threads.

But since you asked for clarity, in a previous post a couple days back I mentioned that on draft night me and a buddy made plans to make the trip up from Indy for the opener. I went on to mention that I felt lucky that we decided to wait on purchasing tickets and booking a room until we got to Detroit, so we dodged a bullet on that account.

What I didn't mention was I am a contractor and I turned down a job contract because it would have been taking place during the time I was intending to be in Detroit for the game. By the time it became obvious that the team was not bein transparent about the injury and we cancelled our Detroit trip, the customer had already secured another contractor. So yes, I was directly effected.

[thesack12]

i'll get laughed at but there's something just icky to me about this situation.

- October 1 cade gets a "very mild" ankle injury
- Casey says he isn't worried about cade missing the preseason opener (a home game)
- cade misses the preseason opener on Oct. 6, misses the preseason
- Oct. 17 casey says cade is on course to play in the season opener (a home game)
- Oct. 19 cade is ruled out for the season opener
- Oct. 20 Weaver says that cade is out for the road trip but they hope to have him back for their next home game

who wants to bet they say cade is "on track" to play on Oct. 30 leading up to the home game and then rule him out last minute?

also, unless he's staying in detroit when the team goes on the road (which i doubt) then it's odd they would definitively rule him out for the road games and specifically say "but maybe for the next home game". part of me thinks that casey and weaver are getting instructions from gores on how to handle this situation....

Sounds like they want nothing to stop the sell of tickets

Sure seems the case.

They could have easily avoided all this drama and backlash entirely, by declaring him "out indefinitely."

Covers the team in case they truly didn't know how long he was going to be out, and it covers them from a PR stand point as well. "Indefinitely" could mean anything from a week to out for the season. No matter when he returned, they would have been right and not perceived to be holding anything back.

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Why does that make it sound more serious? Something isn't right with all this.

Hey, didn't you know that players carrying "day to day" status are ruled out for the next 3 games (10 days) well ahead of time. "Day to Day" players also don't even make road trips either.

That's "week to week" status at best.

All of this started with an announcement of "Very mild" turned ankle on October 1st.

Its blatantly obvious the team has been holding back info this entire time.

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Because people just won't let it go I want to take this from a different direction.

Let's say the Pistons say from the jump that Cade's ankle will take 3-4 weeks to heal; because internet armchair doctors seem to think that's the only way to approach this and that that estimate must be accurate. i.e. you can't ever get new data from more current physical examinations and update the prognosis accordingly.

Now those armchair doctors don't buy tickets for those games as a result (because again apparently there shouldn't be any risk involved of not seeing the players that you want when you purchase tickets).

Now what happens if Cade actually gets better before that 3-4 weeks are are up. Are these folks going to then be mad because the Pistons then lied to them again and they missed opportunities to buy tickets to see him?

I mean, if the internet says that he has a rolled ankle / sprain / "high ankle sprain" (which astounds me that someone has the balls to say with any certainty since they have absolutely zero firsthand knowledge) then I guess Cade should just stay at home in a boot and wait out the 3-4 weeks.

Right after that time period is up we just take the boot off and throw a jersey on him because he's ready right? You can't even send him to practices / etc because if he aggravates his ankle then the prognosis will be off and fans will be mad. Or are they saying that in the practices he's guaranteed not to ever have a setback because that's built into the 3-4 weeks?

We need to be accurate here otherwise those buying tickets will be

This will be my last post here because this is utter ridiculousness. Take off your tinfoil hats. There is no conspiracy here. 5G still doesn't cause covid.

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Why does that make it sound more serious? Something isn't right with all this.

Hey, didn't you know that players carrying "day to day" status are ruled out for the next 3 games (10 days) well ahead of time. "Day to Day" players also don't even make road trips either.

That's "week to week" status at best.

All of this started with an announcement of "Very mild" turned ankle on October 1st.

Its blatantly obvious the team has been holding back info this entire time.

Shh stop being so childish guys the doctors are doing the best they can. They hope he won't be day to day for another month. Lol

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