Trade for Westbrook?

[GreekAlex]

We can have Westbrook if we want him, depending of course on how badly. Nobody is going to outbid the upper limit to what we can in theory offer.

I just pray we don't offer anything close to what we can. We've got some actual assets now that I'd very much like to hold onto, including future flexibility, picks, and a few prospects of varying importance.

I’m terrified of what they may give up for a contract that other teams don’t want.

Additionally, I’d hate to pay Westbrook the last year or 2 of that deal.

Consider we gave up expiring (Bradley), a very good player (Tobias), and first/second round pick for Blake when there wasn't really a market for him. Obviously SVG isn't running the show, and I'd like to think we've seen more caution from the current management group.

I'm cautiously optimistic that even if we're looking to get Westbrook that we won't be dumb enough to give up pieces like Luke and Sekou for him. Here's where I hope I'm NOT wrong.

I'm not sure I'd want the Pistons to be committed to Westbrook for 4 seasons for strictly expirings much less adding picks/ assets.

I just keep thinking about Tom Gores infatuation with Andres Double Doubles like it has some sort of success metric and worrying that he'll take that same philosophy with Russ' triple doubles.

[Pharaoh]

If Gores isn't asleep he'll want Westbrook.

Dre + Blake + Westbrook to Gores likely represents the best (only?) Big 3 in the East.

Gotta keep Luke & Sekou though.

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[MotownMadness]

The Detroit Pistons and Miami Heat are ‘very real possibilities’ as potential landing spots for Russell Westbrook, per
@sam_amick

[ComboGuardCity]

We have picks. Miami does not. Unless Russ forces Miami we’re getting him

[The Moose]

Westbrook has Gores name written all over him. Another Blake type that would put people in the stands.
Woj is saying the Thunder might have to give up a pick to get out of his contract

[Neptune]

If Gores isn't asleep he'll want Westbrook.

Dre + Blake + Westbrook to Gores likely represents the best (only?) Big 3 in the East.

Gotta keep Luke & Sekou though.

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We might have to give one of those young pieces up. Remeber, we're getting a top 5 point guard in the league.

[GreekAlex]

Westbrook has Gores name written all over him. Another Blake type that would put people in the stands.
Woj is saying the Thunder might have to give up a pick to get out of his contract

Hopefully Gores and Stefanski will get the memo and only give up expiring contracts if they're inclined to pursue him.

Woj also mentioned that since the "haul" the Thunder received was historically good for PG13, they might not "need" to get as much for Westbrook.

[vege]

With Westbrook available, the Tony Snell trade looks even worse. We could offer 3 expiring contracts + a pick or 2, now we have 2 expiring contracts and a BAD CONTRACT, we'll likely have to add a 1st or Sekou or Kennard for them to take on Snell........... How dumb was that trade?

[Pharaoh]

With Westbrook available, the Tony Snell trade looks even worse. We could offer 3 expiring contracts + a pick or 2, now we have 2 expiring contracts and a BAD CONTRACT, we'll likely have to add a 1st or Sekou or Kennard for them to take on Snell........... How dumb was that trade?

How is a 2 year deal a BAD CONTRACT?

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[buzzkilloton]

Thunder are really smart for blowing it up when they had a team with no chance to win a title.

[vege]

With Westbrook available, the Tony Snell trade looks even worse. We could offer 3 expiring contracts + a pick or 2, now we have 2 expiring contracts and a BAD CONTRACT, we'll likely have to add a 1st or Sekou or Kennard for them to take on Snell........... How dumb was that trade?

How is a 2 year deal a BAD CONTRACT?

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It is an awful contract. Snell is a bad player being paid 28 million. He is worse contract than Reggie Jackson was, and no one wanted Reggie last season. Was this a serious question?

[Pharaoh]

With Westbrook available, the Tony Snell trade looks even worse. We could offer 3 expiring contracts + a pick or 2, now we have 2 expiring contracts and a BAD CONTRACT, we'll likely have to add a 1st or Sekou or Kennard for them to take on Snell........... How dumb was that trade?

How is a 2 year deal a BAD CONTRACT?

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It is an awful contract. Snell is a bad player being paid 28 million. He is worse contract than Reggie Jackson was, and no one wanted Reggie last season. Was this a serious question?

23.5 mil over the next 2 years

To me it ain't that bad of a deal considering our weakness on the wing and the fact Jon Boy sucked almost from day one.

Snell won't be the reason we don't land Westbrook.

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[El Chivo]

Snell should be kept if we land Westbrook and would cover a Jerami Grant/Roberson role.

[Mr. Krabs]

I hate his game but we probably have to do it.

Most I would give up is 2 picks + 2 of Svi/Khyri/Bruce though. Luke is our only real shooting force remaining with Reggie gone so it would make zero sense to include him.

[vege]

I had to think a little bit if I like the idea of us trading for Westbrook or not, and honestly, I think we have to go for it. We would have 2 all NBA players, both Westbrook and Blake made the all NBA 3rd team, they're both perenial top 10 players, then you have Drummond who's a borderline all star.

With those 3 players we're a contender. We're much better than OKC was, we have Rose, Kennard and a few other interesting pieces in Kieff and Brown. Blake and Westbrook game fit well together and we would be a playoff team even without Blake, which means we could do some load management with him and hopefully get him 100% health for the playoffs.

If we can add a couple of ring chasers we could be good. Iggy or Korver if they get a buyout maybe, or buyouts after the deadline and we're good to go.

We would have 2 historical rebounders in Westbrook and Drummond, that alone should make us entertaining and should fill our arena, so I bet Gores is pushing hard for us to make it happen.

As a plus, Reggie Jackson would have his wish a few years later, OKC would be his team

I just hope we don't do anything stupid like sending out unprotected picks, we're in Detroit, there is a real chance we'll be very bad after Westbrook and Blake are gone. This could be Brooklyn bad if we trade picks without proper protections for an aging star. It's important to keep Kennard as well, we'll need shooting to make it work and Kennard would be our starting SF if Snell is part of the trade package.

Reggie/Snell/Galloway/1st or 2 (because of snell contract urg) should be enough to get us 31 years old Westbrook and that contract. Unless we have to beat Miami and/or Minny offers.

We would go from 2 mentally soft pseudo stars in Dre and Jackson to 2 insane competitors in Blake and Westbrook. I'd be thrilled with the change. Dre would be a great 3rd or 4th banana.

[vege]

Snell should be kept if we land Westbrook and would cover a Jerami Grant/Roberson role.

We can't make salaries work without Snell.

[Kilo]

Snell should be kept if we land Westbrook and would cover a Jerami Grant/Roberson role.

We can't make salaries work without Snell.

Jackson, Galloway, Maker and Kennard work for salary match purposes. We're going to have to give up something other than picks anyways. I just hope it's Kennard and not Doumbouya. I don't think any team will offer $40M in expirings, we can offer $30M in expiring contracts + Kennard. We also have the Bullock 2.5M TPE we could use for a second deal with OKC to take on another player back - given we offer a 4-for-1, they'll have to cut three players, we can use the TPE to take one of those on so they only have to eat the contracts of two of them.

I think Westbrook has a NTC though, and will call his shot to South Beach.

[vege]

Snell should be kept if we land Westbrook and would cover a Jerami Grant/Roberson role.

We can't make salaries work without Snell.

Jackson, Galloway, Maker and Kennard work for salary match purposes. We're going to have to give up something other than picks anyways. I just hope it's Kennard and not Doumbouya. I don't think any team will offer $40M in expirings, we can offer $30M in expiring contracts + Kennard. We also have the Bullock 2.5M TPE we could use for a second deal with OKC to take on another player back - given we offer a 4-for-1, they'll have to cut three players, we can use the TPE to take one of those on so they only have to eat the contracts of two of them.

I think Westbrook has a NTC though, and will call his shot to South Beach.

Like I said, we can't make a deal work without Snell. Kennard would be way too important for us and a 4 for 1 is not realistic. 3 for 1 is already bad enough.

[buzzkilloton]

Snell should be kept if we land Westbrook and would cover a Jerami Grant/Roberson role.

We can't make salaries work without Snell.

Jackson, Galloway, Maker and Kennard work for salary match purposes. We're going to have to give up something other than picks anyways. I just hope it's Kennard and not Doumbouya. I don't think any team will offer $40M in expirings, we can offer $30M in expiring contracts + Kennard. We also have the Bullock 2.5M TPE we could use for a second deal with OKC to take on another player back - given we offer a 4-for-1, they'll have to cut three players, we can use the TPE to take one of those on so they only have to eat the contracts of two of them.

I think Westbrook has a NTC though, and will call his shot to South Beach.

Not a NTC but a 15% trade kicker on his contract.

[Kilo]

We can't make salaries work without Snell.

Jackson, Galloway, Maker and Kennard work for salary match purposes. We're going to have to give up something other than picks anyways. I just hope it's Kennard and not Doumbouya. I don't think any team will offer $40M in expirings, we can offer $30M in expiring contracts + Kennard. We also have the Bullock 2.5M TPE we could use for a second deal with OKC to take on another player back - given we offer a 4-for-1, they'll have to cut three players, we can use the TPE to take one of those on so they only have to eat the contracts of two of them.

I think Westbrook has a NTC though, and will call his shot to South Beach.

Like I said, we can't make a deal work without Snell. Kennard would be way too important for us and a 4 for 1 is not realistic. 3 for 1 is already bad enough.

Kennard will be too passive to matter playing with Westbrook. What's the use of being a good shooter if you never take a shot?