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[The Moose]

Cmon man KCP is waayy better than Stanley teams don't even pay attention to Stanley on defense. Its not like Avery is some ball handler either, he has a spike in usage on our team and is having a career year in turnovers while averaging less assist than KCP.

im by no means a fan if stanley. hes scared and second guesses everything he does on offense, EXCEPT when hes helping run plays. he can handle the ball well enough and he helps initiate offense better than kcp can. kcp is pretty bad, regardless of his scoring. hes way too inconsistent to even worry about. but stanley can be left wide open a lot too. right now he fits in the lineup because he defense helps a lot but hes definitely someone we could replace with an alright defender and better scorer and improve.

In what way does stanley handle the ball? Bringing it up court? I mean KCP can do that. I see Stanley is really overrated for some reason

I'd rather have Stanley than KCP on this team. Stanley plays within the offense 99% of the time, better team defender than KCP and a more versatile defender. He has a much high bball IQ than KCP did. Fits perfectly as a 5th guy/glue guy.

There is a reason the team is 7-0 when SJ plays 30+ mins

[mattao313]

im by no means a fan if stanley. hes scared and second guesses everything he does on offense, EXCEPT when hes helping run plays. he can handle the ball well enough and he helps initiate offense better than kcp can. kcp is pretty bad, regardless of his scoring. hes way too inconsistent to even worry about. but stanley can be left wide open a lot too. right now he fits in the lineup because he defense helps a lot but hes definitely someone we could replace with an alright defender and better scorer and improve.

In what way does stanley handle the ball? Bringing it up court? I mean KCP can do that. I see Stanley is really overrated for some reason

I'd rather have Stanley than KCP on this team. Stanley plays within the offense 99% of the time, better team defender than KCP and a more versatile defender. He has a much high bball IQ than KCP did. Fits perfectly as a 5th guy/glue guy.

There is a reason the team is 7-0 when SJ plays 30+ mins

Please stop with these arbitrary stats this just like the Drummond stuff people were spewing when he was getting hacked like no tommorrow. Stanley is easily the most replacable guy on the team for instance we won 3 games in a row with him out.

[The Moose]

In what way does stanley handle the ball? Bringing it up court? I mean KCP can do that. I see Stanley is really overrated for some reason

I'd rather have Stanley than KCP on this team. Stanley plays within the offense 99% of the time, better team defender than KCP and a more versatile defender. He has a much high bball IQ than KCP did. Fits perfectly as a 5th guy/glue guy.

There is a reason the team is 7-0 when SJ plays 30+ mins

Please stop with these arbitrary stats this just like the Drummond stuff people were spewing when he was getting hacked like no tommorrow. Stanley is easily the most replacable guy on the team for instance we won 3 games in a row with him out.

Most replaceable on the team? I really hope you meant starting 5

[mattao313]

I'd rather have Stanley than KCP on this team. Stanley plays within the offense 99% of the time, better team defender than KCP and a more versatile defender. He has a much high bball IQ than KCP did. Fits perfectly as a 5th guy/glue guy.

There is a reason the team is 7-0 when SJ plays 30+ mins

Please stop with these arbitrary stats this just like the Drummond stuff people were spewing when he was getting hacked like no tommorrow. Stanley is easily the most replacable guy on the team for instance we won 3 games in a row with him out.

Most replaceable on the team? I really hope you meant starting 5

Yeah I mean in the rotation minus Moreland

[Pharaoh]

Please stop with these arbitrary stats this just like the Drummond stuff people were spewing when he was getting hacked like no tommorrow. Stanley is easily the most replacable guy on the team for instance we won 3 games in a row with him out.

Most replaceable on the team? I really hope you meant starting 5

Yeah I mean in the rotation minus Moreland

Again that shows that you don't value SJ as a defender, as a playmaker, as a guy that plays within the system.

The guy plays 30 minutes a night! If you don't see value in him that's on you

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[Bakuto]

Raptors fans can be so hilariously delusional. The fact that many are comparing OG to Kawhi is pathetic.

They'd shred us if we compared Kennard to Rick Barry so why can they make ridiculous comparisons?

[mattao313]

Most replaceable on the team? I really hope you meant starting 5

Yeah I mean in the rotation minus Moreland

Again that shows that you don't value SJ as a defender, as a playmaker, as a guy that plays within the system.

The guy plays 30 minutes a night! If you don't see value in him that's on you

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I really don't understand why you keep saying he's a playmaker yet can't give one reason he is, anyway he isn't that good man I really don't understand why people are gassing him up so much. Reggie Bullock replaced him in the starting lineup and the team didn't miss a beat, he is pretty much a poor man Luc Mbah a Moute.

[MrBigShot]

Yeah I mean in the rotation minus Moreland

Again that shows that you don't value SJ as a defender, as a playmaker, as a guy that plays within the system.

The guy plays 30 minutes a night! If you don't see value in him that's on you

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I really don't understand why you keep saying he's a playmaker yet can't give one reason he is, anyway he isn't that good man I really don't understand why people are gassing him up so much. Reggie Bullock replaced him in the starting lineup and the team didn't miss a beat, he is pretty much a poor man Luc Mbah a Moute.

Mattao's correct. Stanley is not a playmaker by any stretch of the definition. Doesn't handle the ball much, doesn't rack up many assists, doesn't make plays for other people much at all. I wouldn't go so far as to say he's the easiest to replace in the rotation though. Just the starting lineup. Just by virtue of being a wing who defends well consistently, plays within the offense & doesn't provide much offensively or shoot the ball well. Avery is a terrific 3pt shooter and two-way SG, Drummond is a monster, Reggie is a quality starter who can put the team on his back in the clutch, and Tobias is a very talented and versatile scorer, great 3pt shooter, and generally a matchup nightmare.

Battier/Ingles/Tayshaun aren't guys that look meh by the stats by the way. You have to watch to actually get a comprehensive idea of their impact, but Tayshaun was a pretty respectable scorer for his position and Battier was a 38% 3pt shooter for his career.

Ish Smith is as good a back up PG as you can find so I'll give him the nod too. So Stanley is more replaceable than those 5 imo. I think he's more talented than he's shown so far though and haven't given up hope on him breaking out in the future.

[hoophabit]

SJ's playing really well this year. He started it shooting terribly, no doubt. It appears he's finding his way as a starter. Stanley is embracing his role and giving all out effort. Plus/Minus wise, he's usually among the leaders. Avery isn't the only reason there's a tough, competitive Pistons team showing this year. A player you can start at 3 that will defend tough and physical against 4s and even 5s? They don't grow on trees. I suppose if there is a trade that puts us into immediate real contention? Otherwise, I'm for seeing where things go for Stanley. It's his first year as a starter. I recall on occasion wondering if Drummond was ever going to get it. Lately, I wonder what I'd be hearing from Piston fans had they traded him.

[MrBigShot]

Drummond deserves very serious consideration for MIP. Porzingis & Giannis are much improved as well, but their big increase in shot attempts is definitely a big part in their raw stat improvements. Aside from them Oladipo looks like a legitimate all star right now.

Aside from the obvious FT shooting improvement, his emergence as one of the better passing centers in the league (I can't believe I'm actually typing that) is amazing. It's not just simple hand offs or kick outs to shooters either. He's making pin point passes to cutters. Passes he'd never even see prior to this season.

Feels so good when you start to lose hope in a player and they finally put it all together. Motivation & motor problems seem to be a thing of the past right now. The shift in team culture has played a huge part in that no doubt.

[zeebneeb]

Okay so I'm calling it. The Thunder are broken and George is gonna be gone. Him at SF on the Pistons makes Detroit a title team RIGHT NOW. I know it would be a half season rental but resigning him is possible right?

Stanley, ellenson, two unprotected 1st? It would be sick.

Does anyone know if the economics would even work considering the cap? I'm not saying it is possible, I'm just wondering if financially its possible.

[Cowology]

Okay so I'm calling it. The Thunder are broken and George is gonna be gone. Him at SF on the Pistons makes Detroit a title team RIGHT NOW. I know it would be a half season rental but resigning him is possible right?

Stanley, ellenson, two unprotected 1st? It would be sick.

Does anyone know if the economics would even work considering the cap? I'm not saying it is possible, I'm just wondering if financially its possible.

Without looking too deep into the immediate, we'd have to resign Bradley AND George, with Harris a year behind. With $40+ mil already tied up in Reggie/Dre you are starting down the barrel of $100-120mil+ in payroll just for the starters.

As is we're likely to need those rookie contracts to produce at least serviceable rotation players. Jettisoning 2x First rounders while taking back more salary is a no-go. Avery Bradley is essentially our "Paul George" type acquisition.

[zeebneeb]

Okay so I'm calling it. The Thunder are broken and George is gonna be gone. Him at SF on the Pistons makes Detroit a title team RIGHT NOW. I know it would be a half season rental but resigning him is possible right?

Stanley, ellenson, two unprotected 1st? It would be sick.

Does anyone know if the economics would even work considering the cap? I'm not saying it is possible, I'm just wondering if financially its possible.

Without looking too deep into the immediate, we'd have to resign Bradley AND George, with Harris a year behind. With $40+ mil already tied up in Reggie/Dre you are starting down the barrel of $100-120mil+ in payroll just for the starters.

As is we're likely to need those rookie contracts to produce at least serviceable rotation players. Jettisoning 2x First rounders while taking back more salary is a no-go. Avery Bradley is essentially our "Paul George" type acquisition.

Well I am quickly becoming if the mind that this team can win a title if one of two things happen;

Stanley not only keeps playing his excellent defender but becomes an actual offensive option.

Paul George who plays excellent defense like Stanley and can score.

I honestly believe this team is constructed exceptionally well and for them to be a title contender Andre needed to take the next step. That seems to have happened. Every other starter in confident in, except for Stanley.

That's it.

[MotownMadness]

Embiid not playing tonight against the Celtics cause it's a back to back lol

[vege]

Okay so I'm calling it. The Thunder are broken and George is gonna be gone. Him at SF on the Pistons makes Detroit a title team RIGHT NOW. I know it would be a half season rental but resigning him is possible right?

Stanley, ellenson, two unprotected 1st? It would be sick.

Does anyone know if the economics would even work considering the cap? I'm not saying it is possible, I'm just wondering if financially its possible.

Without looking too deep into the immediate, we'd have to resign Bradley AND George, with Harris a year behind. With $40+ mil already tied up in Reggie/Dre you are starting down the barrel of $100-120mil+ in payroll just for the starters.

As is we're likely to need those rookie contracts to produce at least serviceable rotation players. Jettisoning 2x First rounders while taking back more salary is a no-go. Avery Bradley is essentially our "Paul George" type acquisition.

Well I am quickly becoming if the mind that this team can win a title if one of two things happen;

Stanley not only keeps playing his excellent defender but becomes an actual offensive option.

Paul George who plays excellent defense like Stanley and can score.

I honestly believe this team is constructed exceptionally well and for them to be a title contender Andre needed to take the next step. That seems to have happened. Every other starter in confident in, except for Stanley.

That's it.

The deal would have to be Leuer/Boban/SJ/Ellenson + 2 firsts for PG/Singler. Considering all the dead money we would be sending out it would be bad for OKC but that would make this deal financially plausible for us next season since we're dumping Leuer's dead money in the process, which would reduce PG's extension cost for us. We would still be paying the tax tho, no way around that with that lineup.

[bballnmike]

Raptors fans can be so hilariously delusional. The fact that many are comparing OG to Kawhi is pathetic.

They'd shred us if we compared Kennard to Rick Barry so why can they make ridiculous comparisons?

That's because Kennard = Ginobil

[GreekAlex]

Damn... Donovan Mitchell has really been looking good lately. He just dropped 41 tonight and his effeminacy is really improving.

[BadMofoPimp]

Damn... Donovan Mitchell has really been looking good lately. He just dropped 41 tonight and his effeminacy is really improving.

So, he is transgender?

[GreekAlex]

Damn... Donovan Mitchell has really been looking good lately. He just dropped 41 tonight and his effeminacy is really improving.

So, he is transgender?

LOL... I see where I messed up there.

I don't believe he is but his efficiency is transitioning

[Timmaytime]

Why do people keep saying Embiid is having some crazy good season?

Statistically he's been quite average..

Any explanations?