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[vege]

See the trade the Nuggets just made with the Hawks and Nets?

The Nets landed a first round pick in exchange for taking on some salary for this year. It doesn't hurt them longterm but they landed a first round pick from a team that's likely to either be in the low lottery or barely make the playoffs.

Those are the sorts of moves having salary flexibility allows you to make even if you're not a free agent destination. I hope our brass is taking notes and using our resources wisely the next couple years. In 2 seasons we will have cap space. Let's not be stupid, okay?

Also- strong potential of a Schroeder trade coming down the pipe soon. By all accounts they're keeping Lin, he's really about all they're getting in the deal. Hope that it doesn't involve the Pistons, and I don't think it will. We'd have to be sending Reggie out, and that doesn't solve the Hawks' logjam.

I like what Brooklyn is doing. They've taken on OK overpaid guys and stocked up on picks. Compared to where they were a couple years ago, they've bounced back well


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They're still really bad and have little to no talent, not saying they're not doing the right thing or that they're doing anything wrong, but what they have been doing so far will mean nothing, if they don't add a hell lot of talent next season. They should have only Crabbe, Allen, Joe Harris and Musa on the books next season.

[dVs33]

See the trade the Nuggets just made with the Hawks and Nets?

The Nets landed a first round pick in exchange for taking on some salary for this year. It doesn't hurt them longterm but they landed a first round pick from a team that's likely to either be in the low lottery or barely make the playoffs.

Those are the sorts of moves having salary flexibility allows you to make even if you're not a free agent destination. I hope our brass is taking notes and using our resources wisely the next couple years. In 2 seasons we will have cap space. Let's not be stupid, okay?

Also- strong potential of a Schroeder trade coming down the pipe soon. By all accounts they're keeping Lin, he's really about all they're getting in the deal. Hope that it doesn't involve the Pistons, and I don't think it will. We'd have to be sending Reggie out, and that doesn't solve the Hawks' logjam.

I like what Brooklyn is doing. They've taken on OK overpaid guys and stocked up on picks. Compared to where they were a couple years ago, they've bounced back well


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They're still really bad and have little to no talent, not saying they're not doing the right thing or that they're doing anything wrong, but what they have been doing so far will mean nothing, if they don't add a hell lot of talent next season. They should have only Crabbe, Allen, Joe Harris and Musa on the books next season.

You're right, but they now have cap space and picks. They could add a lot of talent with the flexibility they're going to have.

[vege]

I think Chicago is going in the opposite direction lol. They managed to add 2 perhaps 3 very talented young player, and instead of stockpile assets to add talent when they're ready, they spent a lot of money on a very inneficient player who I think is really bad and are about to do the same thing again. LaVine and Parker are bad players in my opinion and worse than that, they're just terrible fits with Dunn and Lauri, who are the players they should be building around. I guess that's good for us since they're in our division. Cleveland and Chicago are going to be awful for a while, that could mean 8 wins the next few seasons

[tmorgan]

Any offer sheet to Jabari Parker that's more than 12 mil a year is dumb, just like matching 20 mil a year for Lavine is dumb.

Jabari can't play D and can't stay healthy. It doesn't matter how good a scorer you are if you give up just as many or just don't play.

[buzzkilloton]

2022 the early entry rule changes. So thats the year you want as many draft picks possible since theres going to be tons of value later in the draft due to the high schoolers+the NCAA class.

Sucks we gave the bulls the right to pick swap us in the 2nd round for Jameer Nelson that year. Oh yeah then we traded whichever 2nd round pick we get for James fkn Ennis. Sweet moves SVG.

[Snakebites]

2022 the early entry rule changes. So thats the year you want as many draft picks possible since theres going to be tons of value later in the draft due to the high schoolers+the NCAA class.

Sucks we gave the bulls the right to pick swap us in the 2nd round for Jameer Nelson that year. Oh yeah then we traded whichever 2nd round pick we get for James fkn Ennis. Sweet moves SVG.

Yeah, second rounders were handed out like candy.

We definitely need to keep our first rounder that year though. Could be very valuable.

[buzzkilloton]

2022 the early entry rule changes. So thats the year you want as many draft picks possible since theres going to be tons of value later in the draft due to the high schoolers+the NCAA class.

Sucks we gave the bulls the right to pick swap us in the 2nd round for Jameer Nelson that year. Oh yeah then we traded whichever 2nd round pick we get for James fkn Ennis. Sweet moves SVG.

Yeah, second rounders were handed out like candy.

We definitely need to keep our first rounder that year though. Could be very valuable.

Dont be surprised to see us move that draft pick for some overpaid former all star vet this trade deadline to chase the playoffs. I really hope the front office realizes the value of a 1st rounder that year.

[DCintheD]

we gave the bulls the right to pick swap us in the 2nd round for Jameer Nelson that year. Oh yeah then we traded whichever 2nd round pick we get for James fkn Ennis. Sweet moves SVG.

WTF. Svg was an underrated epic disaster. There needs to be a 30 for 30 on how hard he f^cked this team.

[Snakebites]

Raptors land Kawhi for Derozen and a first rounder.

Raptors fans think they need to rebuild so don’t mind losing Derozen if Leonard leaves.

Reminds me of us Pistons fans thinking we should rebuild after the 2007 season after missing the finals for the second time in a row.

[Canadafan]

Sooooo do the Raps have to wait to trade him to Lakers or can that happen before season starts?
Would the Lakers then be able to offer him that 5yr $191million contract next offseason? That's better than waiting and only being to offer him the 4yr $140. Well, better for Kawhi

[thesack12]

So DeRozan and his HUGE contract with multiple years remaining gets traded for a legit top 10 player in the league.

Its amusing to me that people insist Blake is untradeable.

[Snakebites]

Sooooo do the Raps have to wait to trade him to Lakers or can that happen before season starts?
Would the Lakers then be able to offer him that 5yr $191million contract next offseason? That's better than waiting and only being to offer him the 4yr $140. Well, better for Kawhi

Why would the Raptors flip Kawhi before he's played a game for them?

[Canadafan]

Sooooo do the Raps have to wait to trade him to Lakers or can that happen before season starts?
Would the Lakers then be able to offer him that 5yr $191million contract next offseason? That's better than waiting and only being to offer him the 4yr $140. Well, better for Kawhi

Why would the Raptors flip Kawhi before he's played a game for them?

Because that's the likely plan
Kawhi wants nothing to do with Toronto.
Sounds like they have to wait till Sept 18th to move him. Lakers will get him

[bballnmike]

I actually like it for both teams. Solid value for the Spurs when they didn't have much leverage.

For the Raptors they have their best shot to make a finals run, they didn't give up OG, the 1st rd pick is top 20 protected and changes to two 2nds next year (so worst case scenario, Kawhi doesn't play and they likely keep the pick), and if/when Kawhi leaves they're in a better position to start their full rebuild sooner. There's always the tiny chance they could convince him to stay too, unlikely but a lot of people probably thought that about PG too.

[ComboGuardCity]

Raptors better flip him for Ingram in September. Otherwise, it’s a very dumb trade

[buzzkilloton]

The rap werent going anywhere with DDR. Now they get a shot at going to the finals and then possibly resigning Kiwi. Sure people say now Kiwi is going to the lakers but thats what they said about PG13. I fhey do lose him Lowrys gone soon and they can rebuild. Being stuck with DDR for the next 5 seasons wasnt good anyways. Great move for the raps they cant lose on it.

[MotownMadness]

Raptors better flip him for Ingram in September. Otherwise, it’s a very dumb trade

I see zero chance of that. If LA wouldn’t give anything to SA for him then they won’t to the Raps especially if they know they are trying to move him cause they can’t resign him.

[The_Irony]

The rap werent going anywhere with DDR. Now they get a shot at going to the finals and then possibly resigning Kiwi. Sure people say now Kiwi is going to the lakers but thats what they said about PG13. I fhey do lose him Lowrys gone soon and they can rebuild. Being stuck with DDR for the next 5 seasons wasnt good anyways. Great move for the raps they cant lose on it.

so instead of doing what they've been doing and doing well in the playoffs with that very average lineup... they fire the coach of the year cause they can't get past LeBron and once he leaves they blow the team up so they can rebuild?

no free agents are coming there..they never did. they were successful through the draft and got lucky a journeyman pg finally figured it out with the right coach. if I'm a raps fan I'm pissed that my team will be in the lottery for atleast 3 seasons if kawhi doesn't stay. this is literally a team lost and moving backwards in a way I've never seen before.

[flow]

Sooooo do the Raps have to wait to trade him to Lakers or can that happen before season starts?
Would the Lakers then be able to offer him that 5yr $191million contract next offseason? That's better than waiting and only being to offer him the 4yr $140. Well, better for Kawhi

They have no interest in trading Kawhi at this point, and won't unless they're out of realistic contention at the trade deadline. Toronto did well in the trade. Didn't lose OG or Siakam, and received Danny Green to help with the loss of DeRozan. This team will push Boston and Philly for the East. No sense in trading Kawhi right now. Even if they don't trade him at the deadline, and he does walk in 2019, they're still in decent shape and suddenly have some cap space to play around with.

[Snakebites]

Yeah. I think the Raptors had a massive payroll for a core that wasn’t a serious contender despite 59 wins, likely to be passed by Boston and Philly.

Best case: Kawhi puts them over the top and stays. Worst case: They get a leg up on a rebuild without Demar’s large contract

It’s a risk, but I don’t hate it.

If a fruitful trade with LA was feasible the Spurs would have done it. I find the assumption the Raptors plan is to flip him strange.