Pistons Trading for Tony Snell

[The Penguin]

Nuking the ability to use the Leuer / Galloway expirings in a bigger deal, helping a division rival keep core players and taking on an additional $14 mil in salary for the 30th pick in a poor draft. Feels like Dumars still doing Hammond favors.

[Pistons888]

Wouldn't it be nice if this was a shift in philosophy and we are now looking to get younger and acquire assets. Doubt it though

[Manocad]

Wonder if we can package 15 and 30 and move up? Probably not

I don't know if there's real value in it. There's pretty much the top tier of three players and a crap shoot. Point being if you're not in the top 3 you're still in the crap shoot, and 15 and 30 sure as hell isn't going to get #3. So if 15 and 30 can get you #8, for example, I'd personally rather have 15 and 30.

[Canadafan]

Nuking the ability to use the Leuer / Galloway expirings in a bigger deal, helping a division rival keep core players and taking on an additional $14 mil in salary for the 30th pick in a poor draft. Feels like Dumars still doing Hammond favors.

Well, we still have the ability to use RJ+LG in a bigger deal. So theres that lol.

[Kilo]

Snell is a PO next year. Maybe he opts out...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[thesack12]

So we bought 30th overall for 14M?

+1

And people actually thought Ed was going to be good for this team.

[kpt]

Things I like about this is next year FA is not strong so it forces us to use it the following. We get another pick and younger. He is 3 and D.

Things I don’t like. He is well over his prime. The amount his PO is not even to what we will get.i don’t hate it. I don’t love it.

[DTP]

Seriously have no clue how people can be unhappy with this deal for the Pistons. For one, this is a huge upgrade in the immediate future....Snell the last three years have pretty much been a 45% from the field, 40% from behind the arc shooter, and he's a good defender. Name another wing on the roster that can do that please? Ellington is the closest and he's not the defender Snell is. And we another pick...a shot at adding cheap talent.

Sure...we eat up another year but $14M in this league isn't a lot nowadays and cap space with this team isn't the best thing anyways. When we've had cap space the past decade, what have we done with it? Yeah...made horrible decisions! Detroit isn't a free agency destination so cap space with the exception on the trade market is so overrated in a market like Detroit.

Overall, this was a good deal to improve the team today. Worry about the $14M next year.

[DCintheD]

I can't remember the last time we traded for a 1st. I don't mind this. Take on short term salary while acquiring an asset.

[thesack12]

Nuking the ability to use the Leuer / Galloway expirings in a bigger deal, helping a division rival keep core players and taking on an additional $14 mil in salary for the 30th pick in a poor draft. Feels like Dumars still doing Hammond favors.

Detroit just substantially helped Milwaukee's potential staying power, by allowing them to free up money to bring back two of their core players in Middleton and Brogdon.

[Southern Piston]

I don’t consider this a bad trade, free agency has never worked for us, we need potential for the future this helps, someone better will be moved at a better price at SF I’m sure but Snell was pretty good for them that year when Middleton was out, he could have better numbers with more minutes, I think this is good, we’re better at trading contracts up for players anyway, if he’s part of a package for something bigger in the future it will be easier to move than Laur, I know we think we’re gonna nail a star in FA but that never happens

[DTP]

Nuking the ability to use the Leuer / Galloway expirings in a bigger deal, helping a division rival keep core players and taking on an additional $14 mil in salary for the 30th pick in a poor draft. Feels like Dumars still doing Hammond favors.

Detroit just substantially helped Milwaukee's potential staying power, by allowing them to free up money to bring back two of their core players in Middleton and Brogdon.

With the limited talent on this roster, Detroit can't afford to worry about someone else's house....gotta take care of their own first. This deal is doing that, collecting assets for basically a dead $9M on the end of the bench.

[thesack12]

Seriously have no clue how people can be unhappy with this deal for the Pistons. For one, this is a huge upgrade in the immediate future....Snell the last three years have pretty much been a 45% from the field, 40% from behind the arc shooter, and he's a good defender. Name another wing on the roster that can do that please? Ellington is the closest and he's not the defender Snell is. And we another pick...a shot at adding cheap talent.

Sure...we eat up another year but $14M in this league isn't a lot nowadays and cap space with this team isn't the best thing anyways. When we've had cap space the past decade, what have we done with it? Yeah...made horrible decisions! Detroit isn't a free agency destination so cap space with the exception on the trade market is so overrated in a market like Detroit.

Overall, this was a good deal to improve the team today. Worry about the $14M next year.

Maybe because basically everybody that comes to Detroit loses their shot, primarily because when they get to Detroit they don't have near the talent around them thus they don't get near as many open looks.

Tony Snell doesn't really upgrade anything on this team. He's not a better shooter than Kennard, and he's not a better defender than Brown.

Plus this only continues to bury Khyri Thomas.

Tony Snell is a body to put on the floor and not much else, a body that is owed $24 million. There is no upside to having Tony Snell on this roster.

[kpt]

So does he start at SF?

[thesack12]

Nuking the ability to use the Leuer / Galloway expirings in a bigger deal, helping a division rival keep core players and taking on an additional $14 mil in salary for the 30th pick in a poor draft. Feels like Dumars still doing Hammond favors.

Detroit just substantially helped Milwaukee's potential staying power, by allowing them to free up money to bring back two of their core players in Middleton and Brogdon.

With the limited talent on this roster, Detroit can't afford to worry about someone else's house....gotta take care of their own first. This deal is doing that, collecting assets for basically a dead $9M on the end of the bench.

Bringing in a $12mil/season marginal role player is taking care of their house?

They shed Jon Leuer, but brought in another similar caliber player on a similar contract.

[DTP]

Seriously have no clue how people can be unhappy with this deal for the Pistons. For one, this is a huge upgrade in the immediate future....Snell the last three years have pretty much been a 45% from the field, 40% from behind the arc shooter, and he's a good defender. Name another wing on the roster that can do that please? Ellington is the closest and he's not the defender Snell is. And we another pick...a shot at adding cheap talent.

Sure...we eat up another year but $14M in this league isn't a lot nowadays and cap space with this team isn't the best thing anyways. When we've had cap space the past decade, what have we done with it? Yeah...made horrible decisions! Detroit isn't a free agency destination so cap space with the exception on the trade market is so overrated in a market like Detroit.

Overall, this was a good deal to improve the team today. Worry about the $14M next year.

Maybe because basically everybody that comes to Detroit loses their shot, primarily because when they get to Detroit they don't have near the talent around them thus they don't get near as many open looks.

Tony Snell doesn't really upgrade anything on this team. He's not a better shooter than Kennard, and he's not a better defender than Brown.

Plus this only continues to bury Khyri Thomas.

Tony Snell is a body to put on the floor and not much else, a body that is owed $24 million. There is no upside to having Tony Snell on this roster.

Eye test does agree that Kennard is a better shooter than Snell but the percentages are very, very similar. Milwaukee hasn't always been the power house they are now....Snell has consistently put up those percentages since being acquired by Milwaukee three years ago. You think he won't be able to continue to knock down open shots off the attention from Dre & Blake?

And also you mentioned one thing Kennard & Brown can do but both are very one dimensional, Snell is a two-way player. He's immediately the best two-way wing on the roster. Brown unless he takes a huge step offensively shouldn't be in a NBA rotation. I love Luke...he's my second favorite on the squad outside of Blake, but he's not the defender Snell is. Putting off acquiring talent so that Khyri Thomas can get minutes isn't the direction this team needs to or will go.

[Great]

Kawhi Leonard’s high school teammate.
They share a demeanor.

Snell was much more confident and dynamic offensively in college.

He lost all that with the Bulls. If they can find that, It’s a major come up.

He’s a solid shooter and defender.

[the_l_train]

Seriously have no clue how people can be unhappy with this deal for the Pistons. For one, this is a huge upgrade in the immediate future....Snell the last three years have pretty much been a 45% from the field, 40% from behind the arc shooter, and he's a good defender. Name another wing on the roster that can do that please? Ellington is the closest and he's not the defender Snell is. And we another pick...a shot at adding cheap talent.

Sure...we eat up another year but $14M in this league isn't a lot nowadays and cap space with this team isn't the best thing anyways. When we've had cap space the past decade, what have we done with it? Yeah...made horrible decisions! Detroit isn't a free agency destination so cap space with the exception on the trade market is so overrated in a market like Detroit.

Overall, this was a good deal to improve the team today. Worry about the $14M next year.

Maybe because basically everybody that comes to Detroit loses their shot, primarily because when they get to Detroit they don't have near the talent around them thus they don't get near as many open looks.

Tony Snell doesn't really upgrade anything on this team. He's not a better shooter than Kennard, and he's not a better defender than Brown.

Plus this only continues to bury Khyri Thomas.

Tony Snell is a body to put on the floor and not much else, a body that is owed $24 million. There is no upside to having Tony Snell on this roster.

Just because he can't shoot better than Kennard (great shooter) or play defense better than Bruce (great defender), doesn't mean we don't have a place for him on this team.

He's more of a small forward, so he shouldn't affect Khyri. Snell is more like a Stanley Johnson with a higher bball IQ.

[thesack12]

Seriously have no clue how people can be unhappy with this deal for the Pistons. For one, this is a huge upgrade in the immediate future....Snell the last three years have pretty much been a 45% from the field, 40% from behind the arc shooter, and he's a good defender. Name another wing on the roster that can do that please? Ellington is the closest and he's not the defender Snell is. And we another pick...a shot at adding cheap talent.

Sure...we eat up another year but $14M in this league isn't a lot nowadays and cap space with this team isn't the best thing anyways. When we've had cap space the past decade, what have we done with it? Yeah...made horrible decisions! Detroit isn't a free agency destination so cap space with the exception on the trade market is so overrated in a market like Detroit.

Overall, this was a good deal to improve the team today. Worry about the $14M next year.

Maybe because basically everybody that comes to Detroit loses their shot, primarily because when they get to Detroit they don't have near the talent around them thus they don't get near as many open looks.

Tony Snell doesn't really upgrade anything on this team. He's not a better shooter than Kennard, and he's not a better defender than Brown.

Plus this only continues to bury Khyri Thomas.

Tony Snell is a body to put on the floor and not much else, a body that is owed $24 million. There is no upside to having Tony Snell on this roster.

Eye test does agree that Kennard is a better shooter than Snell but the percentages are very, very similar. Milwaukee hasn't always been the power house they are now....Snell has consistently put up those percentages since being acquired by Milwaukee three years ago. You think he won't be able to continue to knock down open shots off the attention from Dre & Blake?

And also you mentioned one thing Kennard & Brown can do but both are very one dimensional, Snell is a two-way player. He's immediately the best two-way wing on the roster. Brown unless he takes a huge step offensively shouldn't be in a NBA rotation. I love Luke...he's my second favorite on the squad outside of Blake, but he's not the defender Snell is. Putting off acquiring talent so that Khyri Thomas can get minutes isn't the direction this team needs to or will go.

Wait did you just imply that Dre is going to open things up for shooters? Plus Giannis/Middleton have always allowed teammates to consistently get open looks.

In my book getting Snell falls way short of "acquiring talent." But thats just me.

[pollack419]

Snell is only playing Small Forward