Anthony Davis Trade

[tmorgan]

Trade exceptions aren’t worth anything except directly trading for a player (or players) that make less than the exception. You can’t aggregate it or anything like that. In other words, it does nothing if you’re trading for Anthony Davis alone. Our trade exception is for about 14.1 mil, if I recall correctly.

[bstein14]

I'd make the trade for Tobias + LeVert + Ivey which works in the checker... I'm not giving up picks. I know Dallas wouldn't do that but I wouldn't give up anything more.

C: Duren / Stew
F: AD / Reed
F: Ausar / Holland
G: Duncan / Green
G: Cade / Jenkins (or Sasser)

That 2nd unit still a bunch of DAWGs and you give the first unit a bunch more firepower. Higher ceiling team for sure but losing Tobias also hurts a bit for sure.

[Dark-Oh]

Trade exceptions aren’t worth anything except directly trading for a player (or players) that make less than the exception. You can’t aggregate it or anything like that. In other words, it does nothing if you’re trading for Anthony Davis alone. Our trade exception is for about 14.1 mil, if I recall correctly.

It helps get the salaries to match. That's all it's worth.

[tmorgan]

Trade exceptions aren’t worth anything except directly trading for a player (or players) that make less than the exception. You can’t aggregate it or anything like that. In other words, it does nothing if you’re trading for Anthony Davis alone. Our trade exception is for about 14.1 mil, if I recall correctly.

It helps get the salaries to match. That's all it's worth.

Ummm… no. It does not. Not unless there’s another player coming to Detroit besides Davis. It cannot be aggregated.

[Kalamazoo317]

I'd make the trade for Tobias + LeVert + Ivey which works in the checker... I'm not giving up picks. I know Dallas wouldn't do that but I wouldn't give up anything more.

C: Duren / Stew
F: AD / Reed
F: Ausar / Holland
G: Duncan / Green
G: Cade / Jenkins (or Sasser)

That 2nd unit still a bunch of DAWGs and you give the first unit a bunch more firepower. Higher ceiling team for sure but losing Tobias also hurts a bit for sure.

Why in the world would we play Reed at forward? He's a center. Even if you're wanting to play Green out of position as a guard instead of a forward, Beefstew would make more sense at the 4 and Reed at the 5.

This does highlight how we look a tad thin at guard if we send out LeVert *and* Ivey and don't get any in return. We do have Sasser at least, and you could technically play Ausar in the backcourt as he can handle a little. Probably doesn't super matter if we have Ausar guarding a backcourt player, though. We could play Cade and essentially three wings or two wings and two bigs.

I maintain that Duren/AD/Ausar/Cade is pretty tough spacing, though, and not a great fit.

[BadMofoPimp]

AD on the PIstons would have the worst 3 point shooting team in the league. Spacing would be absolutely horrendous.

[Dark-Oh]

Trade exceptions aren’t worth anything except directly trading for a player (or players) that make less than the exception. You can’t aggregate it or anything like that. In other words, it does nothing if you’re trading for Anthony Davis alone. Our trade exception is for about 14.1 mil, if I recall correctly.

It helps get the salaries to match. That's all it's worth.

Ummm… no. It does not. Not unless there’s another player coming to Detroit besides Davis. It cannot be aggregated.

Please explain how it works. My understanding is if you trade for a 20m contract, you can send a 6m contract to the other team with the 14m trade exception to make it with.

[bstein14]

It helps get the salaries to match. That's all it's worth.

Ummm… no. It does not. Not unless there’s another player coming to Detroit besides Davis. It cannot be aggregated.

Please explain how it works. My understanding is if you trade for a 20m contract, you can send a 6m contract to the other team with the 14m trade exception to make it with.

Trade exceptions can't be added to a player. So the Pistons can pretty much only take back $15 million in salary from another team. It could be two players such as one for $9 million and one for $6 million.

[DetroitSho]

Ummm… no. It does not. Not unless there’s another player coming to Detroit besides Davis. It cannot be aggregated.

Please explain how it works. My understanding is if you trade for a 20m contract, you can send a 6m contract to the other team with the 14m trade exception to make it with.

Trade exceptions can't be added to a player. So the Pistons can pretty much only take back $15 million in salary from another team. It could be two players such as one for $9 million and one for $6 million.

While the description is accurate, I believe the amount is $14m, not $15m.

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[tmorgan]

It helps get the salaries to match. That's all it's worth.

Ummm… no. It does not. Not unless there’s another player coming to Detroit besides Davis. It cannot be aggregated.

Please explain how it works. My understanding is if you trade for a 20m contract, you can send a 6m contract to the other team with the 14m trade exception to make it with.

Another way to look at it, just a different explanation:

The 14.1mil exception was created when we sign and traded Schroder to Sacramento. It allows us to trade for up to 14.1 mil in players without matching salary in the deal. Any player with a contract over 14.1 mil cannot be exchanged for the exception. The trade exception cannot be aggregated with any other contract or exception to create a larger value, so it’s useless in trading for Anthony Davis unless we receive another player in the deal with a salary of equal or lesser value than the exception. In that case, you could finish the trade as two separate trades, one for the player that fits in the exception and another for Anthony Davis. You’d still need to exchange the correct amount of salary for Davis, however, unless the receiving team has enough room under the cap, which we certainly do not.

[bstein14]

I'd make the trade for Tobias + LeVert + Ivey which works in the checker... I'm not giving up picks. I know Dallas wouldn't do that but I wouldn't give up anything more.

C: Duren / Stew
F: AD / Reed
F: Ausar / Holland
G: Duncan / Green
G: Cade / Jenkins (or Sasser)

That 2nd unit still a bunch of DAWGs and you give the first unit a bunch more firepower. Higher ceiling team for sure but losing Tobias also hurts a bit for sure.

Why in the world would we play Reed at forward? He's a center. Even if you're wanting to play Green out of position as a guard instead of a forward, Beefstew would make more sense at the 4 and Reed at the 5.

I think both Stew and Reed have shown an ability to defend on the perimeter and bigs down low. Its all about matchups as far as who defends who. We've had Tobias on KAT and Duren on Josh Hart so I'm not sure what you are thinking being the "center" means in todays NBA.

[Kalamazoo317]

Sure. I guess you could argue that positions are functionally meaningless. There are bigs, wings, and ball handlers. Any other distinction is largely imaginary.

[Dark-Oh]

I'd make the trade for Tobias + LeVert + Ivey which works in the checker... I'm not giving up picks. I know Dallas wouldn't do that but I wouldn't give up anything more.

C: Duren / Stew
F: AD / Reed
F: Ausar / Holland
G: Duncan / Green
G: Cade / Jenkins (or Sasser)

That 2nd unit still a bunch of DAWGs and you give the first unit a bunch more firepower. Higher ceiling team for sure but losing Tobias also hurts a bit for sure.

Why in the world would we play Reed at forward? He's a center. Even if you're wanting to play Green out of position as a guard instead of a forward, Beefstew would make more sense at the 4 and Reed at the 5.

I think both Stew and Reed have shown an ability to defend on the perimeter and bigs down low. Its all about matchups as far as who defends who. We've had Tobias on KAT and Duren on Josh Hart so I'm not sure what you are thinking being the "center" means in todays NBA.

Reed is undersized for center, but he has taken the challenge on and done well. He's a natural PF. The jumper is ugly, but it's efficient. He's too good to be a third string, but a luxury to have at that contract and skill level. Knowing he's there gives Duren, Stew, and even Tobias a safety blanket to play tough knowing he's there if they get into foul trouble.

[tmorgan]

I really don’t get why the NBA as a whole doesn’t “get” Paul Reed. Glad to have him, but he should be a 20 minutes nightly guy and paid like one. He’s solid on both ends.

[bstein14]

I really don’t get why the NBA as a whole doesn’t “get” Paul Reed. Glad to have him, but he should be a 20 minutes nightly guy and paid like one. He’s solid on both ends.

Advanced metrics have him as a top 60 player this season. He's been great when he's been given time, both on offense and defense.

[Wallace_Wallace]

I’m not against the idea if he didn’t sign the 3 year 175 million extension with Dallas. Near 60 millions for this and the upcoming 2 seasons will kneecap the Pistons unless he played like he did back in the 2010s (which is nearly half a decade ago).

I’d be more interested if someone is available with a contract around 35m a year……love to grab someone like Trey Murphy from the Pelicans. He’s Tobias Harris and Duncan Robinson put together plus a he’s pitbull defender.

[bstein14]

Reportedly, the Mavs have been surprised at how little teams are offering for Davis... perhaps finding out his market is less than something like Orlando paid for Desmond Bane. They thought they would get a KD to Phoenix type haul for him and its no where close apparently. No way they can save face with their fans if they traded him for expirings and like 1 late first.

[breezypeezy]

Im not a fan of players that are hurt all the time.

Embiid, Zion, AD, none of em are hoisting a Championship trophy anytime soon because they are all promise and no show and duds for thier price tags.

You couldnt compensate me enough to add them to my roster.

Id give them Michael Corleones offer for AD- "Nothing" and the insistance that you now owe me for the time you've made me waste talking to you."

https://youtube.com/shorts/xy86UpeDROQ?si=e4VVJanU6z7r6tcH

[Rip32]

Davis just can’t be relied upon. Ivey and Harris for Davis sounds pretty cheap though.

Facts

[Collymore]

blowing up the culture of a 20-5 team for a oft injured big name like anthony davis is what i expect from tom gores