Where does Kidd go and does it matter to the Pistons?

[Hunter]

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I think you just described the Lakers in a sense. Team that can give Kobe the ball, has good supporting cast with Oden and Bynum and has two young guards it could give up (Farmar and Chrittendon). A lineup of

Kidd/Kobe/Walton/Oden/Bynum competes in the west with anyone. Just dunno who LA would give up

O rly???

But yeah, like I said earlier I think LAL & Dal are the two obvious choices.

The Lakers could give up Kwame, Critt & Farmar and still have a 3 guard rotation of Kidd, Kobe & Fish. But it still comes down to NJ lowering their demands, which they'd pretty much have to. Still, not sure who can make a better offer.

[Snakebites]

Yeah, the Lakers and Mavs are the only ones that come particularly close to meeting the criteria, though neither has young talent that has enough value that they are willing to give, assuming Harris and Bynum arent available.

And Im not convinced the Nets would trade Kidd unless it helps their rebuilding plans significantly.

[m23uza1hem36]

No, Chauncey still runs right past him, he also is not a threat offensively, he will just be a good "Point Guard", giving some assists, rebounds as usual for him, but as I look at him, to me he's not longer a huge force.

[Kyrama]

What happens if a player in the All Star game is traded to the other conference immediatly before? If Kidd goes West does he replace someone on their AS team, does he play for the East, or not at all?

[Hunter]

Yeah, the Lakers and Mavs are the only ones that come particularly close to meeting the criteria, though neither has young talent that has enough value that they are willing to give, assuming Harris and Bynum arent available.

And Im not convinced the Nets would trade Kidd unless it helps their rebuilding plans significantly.

They may not have much of a choice. What they are doing clearly isn't working and if Kidd (as reported) wants out they might as well get what they can for him. It's not like his value is going to improve if they wait.

[Snakebites]

Im not arguing what they should do (I agree they should be willing to make just about any deal not involving bad contracts), Im arguing what they would do.

Thorn is a smart guy, but he's had a couple of chances to rebuild with this team (keeping Vince being the foremost). The team is bad enough to get him to look into this, but that doesnt mean he's prepared to turn his team into a doormat unless he can get something good in return.

I'm wary of the "Kidd told his buddies he wants out" story, but Id be surprised if Kidd was content with the current situation. I guess it depends how far that demand goes.

[bstein14]

I would like to see him in LA. I know they'd probably have to trade Odom + Kwame and a pick or two.

His contract is just so huge there aren't alot of teams that can make it work.

Would Chicago trade Ben Wallace, Hinrich, and picks?

[jab]

I would like to see him in LA. I know they'd probably have to trade Odom + Kwame and a pick or two.

His contract is just so huge there aren't alot of teams that can make it work.

Would Chicago trade Ben Wallace, Hinrich, and picks?

Why would the Lakers want Ben and Kirk?

[bstein14]

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Why would the Lakers want Ben and Kirk?

It was a question of whether or not the Bulls would trade for Kidd.

I don't think the Lakers would have any real interest in trading for Wallace at all.

Wallace is certainly not worth much so they Bulls would have to include some young talent and picks to bring in Kidd if they were interested.

[jab]

The Bulls don't have $20 million worth of players that anyone would want. Draft picks have no $ value at this point of the season.

[bstein14]

The Bulls don't have $20 million worth of players that anyone would want. Draft picks have no $ value at this point of the season.

They have no $ value in trades, but they have value in a trade.

They could trade Nocioni, Hinrich, and other young players/picks to make a solid offer to New Jersey.

[Hunter]

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They have no $ value in trades, but they have value in a trade.

They could trade Nocioni, Hinrich, and other young players/picks to make a solid offer to New Jersey.

It'd be stupid to do that for a 34 year old Kidd who isn't going to get the Bulls over the top.

[bstein14]

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It'd be stupid to do that for a 34 year old Kidd who isn't going to get the Bulls over the top.

It was stupid to pay huge money to an aging Ben Wallace who wouldn't put them over the top.

[jab]

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It was stupid to pay huge money to an aging Ben Wallace when you didn't have 4 starters who can shoot to put on the floor with him

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[jab]

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They have no $ value in trades, but they have value in a trade.

They could trade Nocioni, Hinrich, and other young players/picks to make a solid offer to New Jersey.

I'll let someone else explain WHY Hinrich and Nocioni trades are difficult at this time

[roc]

I'll let someone else explain WHY Hinrich and Nocioni trades are difficult at this time

BYC FTW

[Rodya]

They had such a great opportunity to sign and trade Carter last summer. I can't believe Thorn actually thought he could win with him.

Back on topic, only Dallas can make a real play for Kidd this season. If I was Thorn I would do everything in my power to trade Carter for expirings, even without draft picks. Letting a future hall of fame pg go is idiotic.

[HeroicKennedy]

In all honesty, it doesn't really matter. Kidd isn't who he was, and whoever he joins will only get slightly better.

[RTM]

It could. I can really only seeing him go to Denver, Dallas, or Cleveland. If he gets paired up with LeBron, then yes, I would say it affects us (especially if we see them in the playoffs).

[Kyrama]

In all honesty, it doesn't really matter. Kidd isn't who he was, and whoever he joins will only get slightly better.

I agree he isn't who he was, but I think you're underrating Kidd a bit.