The Trade Thread

[sc8581]

Detroit trades greg Monroe to Sacramento for Marcus Thornton and their unprotected first round pick

The Kings wouldn't even consider that deal.

They might. It's the kings. They traded for gay lol. There probably interested in trading assets to make the playoffs or at least try to

They have zero chance of making the playoffs, they do make some bad decisions but no way do they trade a high pick in this draft for Monroe who is about to get paid what Gay and Cousins are already making.

[Q00]

If this team is making trades its as buyers, not sellers. They aren't just going to dump a productive player for a draft pick in the midst of a playoff run. Be real.

Not to mention we are already the youngest team in the league. You think management is trying to get younger? smh

[Hotmayo]

If this team is making trades its as buyers, not sellers. They aren't just going to dump a productive player for a draft pick in the midst of a playoff run. Be real.

Not to mention we are already the youngest team in the league. You think management is trying to get younger? smh

This draft is loaded with players We need let's be real
Your not gonna get Barnes for Monroe let's be real
Your not gonna get Thompson for Monroe let's be real
Your not gonna get afflalo for Monroe let's be real
Your not gonna get any good young player for Monroe lets be real
This team can still make the playoffs in the crappy east if we made a trade
And another thing.. Monroe isn't getting the max lets be real

Seriously.....lets be real

[coolness]

Monroe's value is a captivating topic for me. Almost all of us had it very high as recently the 2013 draft.

If we could trade Monroe, Jerebko, Bynum to the Suns for Okafor's expiring and their 3 protected picks from Indy/Wash/Minn and the Suns 1st of 2014 (with a top10 protection. they are in the playoffs now) that would be plenty for me. Suns keep their best players and get to match Monroe to a long-term deal. None of the 4 1st's are worth a ton in themselves in this top-heavy draft. We could throw in 2nd's for them maybe. I'm expecting to be told that Monroe wouldn't get that much in return tho. Okafor has an injury and we would have 2 roster spots to sign a scrub center or 2.

I still wanna trade Mitchell bcuz if Smoove is gonna be our 4, then let's have a shooter back him up. Singler, Datome, Chuckles and Jorts are here already. Mitchell will likely be lost in our roster for the duration of his rookie deal. He could fetch a 2nd rounder or 2 from the West.

[bkseven]

no trade is gonna help when u got dumars running the show. fire him like the lions are gonna fire schwartz

[jars]

I haven't seen anything yet about Bynum (maybe I missed another thread).
I don't actually want Bynum but we could get some nice pieces in return... eg

Detroit get: Bynum (which we could buy out if we wouldnt be under minimum salary), Bennett and Waiters

Cleveland get: Smith, Caldwell-Pope and CV.

Why for us? We get back Last years first overall pick who has been underwhelming but he may pan out. We get Waiters who wants to be 'the man' on offense and we could let him do that for a while. Worst case Drummond would get to study under Bynum in terms of offense (when healthy he is a top level offensive big guy). We also move Smiths contract and get to start over with the search for our starting 3 man next off season.

Why for Cleveland? Waiters wants out. Bynum wants out. Bennett has been underwhelming. Take back Smith who is a #2 option. Caldwell-Pope would provide a solid shooter to pair with Irving (although I would be happy with taking out KCP and Waiters from the trade) CV is an expiring who can shoot in numbers.

[coolness]

I just posted in the Taint Board

Bynum, Jerebko, Smoove, Moose
for
Ariza, Porter, Hilario

and was so lazy that I asked others to fill out the rest. If anything, the Wiz would have to throw in incentives.

BUT re-signing Ariza would cost no more than keeping Bynum and Jerebko, who don't expire. Porter and Hilario cost no more than Smoove and Moose this year, so we could just let Stuckey and Chuckles go in order to sign a better-fitting part. If that part exists. maybe the Wiz throw in a 1st and a 2nd or something...

[coolness]

Chandler and Mozgov
for
Jerebko and Monroe

works on the checker.

Mozgov has good stats in 28 games, but can't be traded until January 15.

Whoever said Chandler/Faried for Jerebko/Monroe wasn't thinking of Detroit's fit in my opinion.
And since Faried is probably worth more, Denver can add value to this one. A 1st and a 2nd? *shrug*

[Natopher]

Trade Monroe, Jerebko and Datome to Boston for Jeff Green and Courtney Lee.

[menten]

Trade Monroe, Jerebko and Datome to Boston for Jeff Green and Courtney Lee.

the celtics dont need monroe. they have sullinger, a much better player with more upside. we should have offered monroe in the offseason.

[Natopher]

Trade Monroe, Jerebko and Datome to Boston for Jeff Green and Courtney Lee.

the celtics dont need monroe. they have sullinger, a much better player with more upside. we should have offered monroe in the offseason.

They need a Center, and Monroe is more of a Center than Sullinger. I'm not saying I think Monroe is better than Sullinger (I don't), but I think they'd trade for Monroe and play Sully at PF. Sully is more of a PF anyway, IMO.

[ComboGuardCity]

Come on guys. Monroe is better than Sullinger

[sfballa13]

Trade Monroe, Jerebko and Datome to Boston for Jeff Green and Courtney Lee.

the celtics dont need monroe. they have sullinger, a much better player with more upside. we should have offered monroe in the offseason.

The time to trade Monroe was last offseason or early this year

His value is plummeting by the day because he has stated he wants a max deal, other teams can sign him outright in the summer so why give up assets, and the teams that have players we would want in a trade dont need Monroe at all anyways.

To think we could have traded Monroe for Cousins is really disheartening.

Cousins and Drummond would be very dominant downlow.

I would have done #8 (KCP) before the draft, Monroe, Stuckey for Cousins and Thornton in a heartbeat

[Piston Pete]

We need to trade Monroe or JSmoove - stat!

[sfballa13]

We need to trade Monroe or JSmoove - stat!

Why not move both??

To Golden State: Monroe, Stuckey, Bynum

To Pistons: Barnes, Lee, Douglas, Okafor, Beal, Nene

To Suns: Smith

To Wizards: Len, KCP, Jerebko, Charlie V, Mitchell

Why for Golden State? Dump Lee for Monroe, exchange Barnes for Stucey and Bynum

Why for Suns? Trade trash for a premier player in Smith

Why for Detroit? Undo Dumars stupidity

Why for Wizards? Save 27M over 3 years and gain the #5 and #8 picks from the last draft

Jennings - Douglas
Beal - Singler
Barnes - Datome
Lee - Harrelson
Drummond - Nene

If we don't do the Washington deal we can just keep kcp and Len and try to move them in another deal

[Q00]

Trade Monroe, Jerebko and Datome to Boston for Jeff Green and Courtney Lee.

the celtics dont need monroe. they have sullinger, a much better player with more upside. we should have offered monroe in the offseason.

The time to trade Monroe was last offseason or early this year

His value is plummeting by the day because he has stated he wants a max deal, other teams can sign him outright in the summer so why give up assets, and the teams that have players we would want in a trade dont need Monroe at all anyways.

To think we could have traded Monroe for Cousins is really disheartening.

Cousins and Drummond would be very dominant downlow.

I would have done #8 (KCP) before the draft, Monroe, Stuckey for Cousins and Thornton in a heartbeat

That's not really true though because he's a RFA, so another team can't just sign him outright. It would have to be a sign and trade, with players coming to Detroit that satisfies Dumars' requests. He holds all the cards by being able to match any offer. Neither Monroe or any other team really has a say in the matter. But if another team really wants him bad, and offers up something Joe likes better than Greg, then the other team could get him that way. So there's no real way to lose Monreo for nothing, unless the Pistons just decide they would rather spend that money on someone else and let him go in FA. In which case it wouldn't be for nothing either, as it would be like trading him for that new player in FA instead.

Also, I would've loved the Monroe-Cousins trade, but I don't think it was ever something we had a chance to do. Its not like Joe was offered Cousins for him and turned it down. Cousins-Drummond could've been awesome though.

[princeofpalace]

This is what needs to happen

Trade 1: DET/DEN/HOU
Pistons trade Josh Smith, Josh Harrelson, Kyle Singler for Wilson Chandler, JJ Hickson, T. Jones
Houston trades: Omer Asik, Terrence Jones for Josh Smith, Josh Harrelson
Denver trades: Wilson Chandler, JJ Hickson for Omer Asik, Kyle Singler

Why for us? We balance out or roster and create a drama free lockeroom
Why for Hou? They get Howards bestfriend and unload Asik
Why for Den? They get the C that they need

Trade 2: DET/WAS
Rodney Stuckey for either Martell Webster or Trever Ariza

Why for us? We get another wing that can shoot
Why for Was? They wont keep all of Webster/Ariza/Porter and need a productive 3rd guard

We become
Jennings/Billups/Bynum/Siva
Chandler/KCP
Ariza/Jones/Datome
Monroe/Hickson
Drummond/Monroe

Do I think Joe D will have the gonads to pull of a series of blockbuster trades? Probably not, but I do think these moves or similiar ones need to be made in order for us to become a halfway respectable team. We need shooters, period. And, Josh having clashes with Coach Cheeks makes the question of who should be traded quite easy.

[BleedGreen1989]

Come on guys. Monroe is better than Sullinger

Is he really though? With age and contract situation considered?

Greg Monroe: 14 points, 9 rebounds, 51%FG, 33mpg

Jared Sullinger: 14 points, 7 rebounds, 47%FG, 27mpg

[sfballa13]

Come on guys. Monroe is better than Sullinger

Is he really though? With age and contract situation considered?

Greg Monroe: 14 points, 9 rebounds, 51%FG, 33mpg

Jared Sullinger: 14 points, 7 rebounds, 47%FG, 27mpg

Brad Stevens is working wonders for the Celtics. He has turned Sullinger and Crawford into two very productive players by playing to their strengths.

Shows you the difference coaching can make bc the Celtics have a weaker lineup than we do yet are playing just as well as us (Pistons are 7th with 1 more win than Boston who is 8th in the East)

[BleedGreen1989]

Come on guys. Monroe is better than Sullinger

Is he really though? With age and contract situation considered?

Greg Monroe: 14 points, 9 rebounds, 51%FG, 33mpg

Jared Sullinger: 14 points, 7 rebounds, 47%FG, 27mpg

Brad Stevens is working wonders for the Celtics. He has turned Sullinger and Crawford into two very productive players by playing to their strengths.

Shows you the difference coaching can make bc the Celtics have a weaker lineup than we do yet are playing just as well as us (Pistons are 7th with 1 more win than Boston who is 8th in the East)

I don't think Celtic fans are surprised by Sullinger. He showed terrific flashes during his rookie year.

But if you were to say Jordan Crawford would become a very solid starting POINT GUARD, you would of been laughed out of the building.

Brad Stevens has really impressed early on indeed.