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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#201 » by tradez401 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:11 pm

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Banchero seems like the best draftee to get but Jalen Duren fits our needs like hell. Legit 6'11, very athletic, rim protector, hustler. I can see Cade/Killian run some good pick and roll with him and get him some nice lobs. Trade Grant for a pick and take both Banchero/Duren.



Not to say Duren can't turn it around, but he has struggled mightily to score and rebound against high major teams. This highlight you posted is his only good game so far and its against Western Kentucky. Concerning.


im looking at more of his highlights ur right he should be rebounding much more strange because he gets alot of blks each game.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#202 » by NYPiston » Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:49 pm

tradez401 wrote:

Banchero seems like the best draftee to get but Jalen Duren fits our needs like hell. Legit 6'11, very athletic, rim protector, hustler. I can see Cade/Killian run some good pick and roll with him and get him some nice lobs. Trade Grant for a pick and take both Banchero/Duren.


You don't take an athletic, rim runner with a top 5 or, hell, even top 10 pick.

I had Duren on the Pistons radar prior to the season because I saw his scouting report (never watched him previously) and they made it seemed like he was a skilled big man who is also uber athletic and has a mans' body but I don't see a player that is that skilled. It would be nice to add a DeAndre Jordan clone (at max upside) but not with a pick that high.
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Post#203 » by vic » Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:56 pm

One thing i just noticed is that Jaden Ivey is doing the most with the least amount of usage in my top 5.
Hes also along with Jabari the only 2 that have a positive assist/to ratio.

We'll see what happens but I think if the Pistons dont get #1 Troy's going to draft his Westbrook redux.

Simply look at the amount of 3/4s already on the team: Grant/Bey/Livers/Pickett.

I think he moves Killian to 3rd guard and Picks up a shot blocker lob catcher in the 2nd round.

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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#204 » by MotownMadness » Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:11 pm

Jabari Smith is on right now on ESPN2, Has a efficient 12 with 4mins left in the first half.
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Post#205 » by MotownMadness » Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:40 pm

Jabari Smiths outside shot is nice
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Post#206 » by El Chivo » Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:27 pm

MotownMadness wrote:Jabari Smiths outside shot is nice


He's the real deal
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Post#207 » by DNice68 » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:52 pm

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FloridaMan78 wrote:Jaden Ivey had some turnovers in the loss to Rutgers, but he’s still my can’t miss pick. His speed and explosive athleticism is elite. Good handles and vision and a decent spot up shooter. Purdue is more of a post up team too which clogs the lane up for him. His ability to attack the rim with drives and cuts was more apparent in the Fiba tournament.

Jalen Green, is that you?

I agree with the Jalen Green comparison. IMO it’s Smith, Banchero, and everyone else!
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Post#208 » by reanimator » Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:17 pm

Green is a ++ athlete but was never a rim attacker in the halfcourt and loves to settle/hunt for jumpers. Ivey will attack.

I saw a Rashard Lewis comp for Jabari Smith Jr and definitely see some overlap and think that would be quite the addition.
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Post#209 » by Spider156 » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:12 pm

Woah Jabari Smith is the real deal wow. I’m impressed with the way he moves, great shot form. He plays like Harrison Barnes imo. He’s everything we’re looking for in a small forward. I think Paolo is more of a boom or bust and we don’t need to draft that. We need someone with guaranteed talent. I think Jabari has the length and size to potentially become a solid starting wing for the rest of his career. He’s athletic enough that’s for sure. I’m actually finally excited about the draft again. This kid can play, he passes the eye test. You can tell he’s got an IQ.
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Post#210 » by Spider156 » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:17 pm

We should not be looking at center at all. I don’t believe Stewart is good enough to start. But you don’t draft center with a top lottery pick. We should only be looking at wing players to replace Killian or Bey. Ideally we get a better shooting guard but it really doesn’t matter. We just need another scorer on the wing and I think Jabari Smith is the guy. I think Paolo and Chet have too much bust potential. If we can draft a guy like Harrison Barnes that’s a solid pickup for a lottery pick. I still think we should trade down specially if Weaver did his homework which I’m sure he has. I’d look to trade down and get two picks instead of one.
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Post#211 » by Manocad » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:27 pm

Unless Ivey becomes a clear head and shoulders BPA in the top 5 ahead of Holgren, Banchero, et al then I'd still go with a big man. That is without a doubt the most pressing need of this team right now. Offense is not this team's problem when everyone is playing as they should be expected to play. Rebounding and defense, especially in the post, are ALWAYS an issue even when the team is playing well. I prefer the logic of taking a player who absolutely represents filling the most pressing need--absolutely meaning you KNOW you've got him--rather than taking a slightly higher rated Ivey because BPA no matter what, then HOPING you can fill that most pressing need via free agency/trade without giving up assets/breaking the bank.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#212 » by Canadafan » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:27 pm

Spider156 wrote:Woah Jabari Smith is the real deal wow. I’m impressed with the way he moves, great shot form. He plays like Harrison Barnes imo. He’s everything we’re looking for in a small forward. I think Paolo is more of a boom or bust and we don’t need to draft that. We need someone with guaranteed talent. I think Jabari has the length and size to potentially become a solid starting wing for the rest of his career. He’s athletic enough that’s for sure. I’m actually finally excited about the draft again. This kid can play, he passes the eye test. You can tell he’s got an IQ.


He sounds perfectttt
Paola has that disorder too where he loses like ten lbs a game. That's all we need :banghead:
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Post#213 » by reanimator » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:48 pm

Manocad wrote:Unless Ivey becomes a clear head and shoulders BPA in the top 5 ahead of Holgren, Banchero, et al then I'd still go with a big man. That is without a doubt the most pressing need of this team right now. Offense is not this team's problem when everyone is playing as they should be expected to play. Rebounding and defense, especially in the post, are ALWAYS an issue even when the team is playing well. I prefer the logic of taking a player who absolutely represents filling the most pressing need--absolutely meaning you KNOW you've got him--rather than taking a slightly higher rated Ivey because BPA no matter what, then HOPING you can fill that most pressing need via free agency/trade without giving up assets/breaking the bank.


Banchero and Jabari aren't going to solve any defensive issues so you're basically saying Chet or bust.
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Post#214 » by Spider156 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:08 am

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Spider156 wrote:Woah Jabari Smith is the real deal wow. I’m impressed with the way he moves, great shot form. He plays like Harrison Barnes imo. He’s everything we’re looking for in a small forward. I think Paolo is more of a boom or bust and we don’t need to draft that. We need someone with guaranteed talent. I think Jabari has the length and size to potentially become a solid starting wing for the rest of his career. He’s athletic enough that’s for sure. I’m actually finally excited about the draft again. This kid can play, he passes the eye test. You can tell he’s got an IQ.


He sounds perfectttt
Paola has that disorder too where he loses like ten lbs a game. That's all we need :banghead:

Paolo looks like he’ll be chucking up bad forced jump shots and have a high turnover rate. We don’t need a guy like that cuz we have Killian and Cade. We need a guy that can knock down open shots and play correctly. The nice part is Jabari is still the best talent available so I know there’s more boom with Paolo but I think Jabari will do well with a refined role much like Bey’s except he plays with more control and poise.
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Post#215 » by Spider156 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:11 am

Bey is a role player. The reason is two. 1. His shooting is inconsistent which is what separates guys like Danny Green from the rest of the role players. And 2. His inconsistent decision making. Sometimes he plays well, sometimes he’s bone headed making things more difficult than they should be. I think Bey breaks out coming off the bench.
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Post#216 » by BJK1 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:28 am

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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#217 » by The Moose » Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:45 am

The Moose wrote:
The Moose wrote:Jabari is my pick so far


update, I'm still not very high on this class overall.

At the top I like Jabari still, wouldn't mind Banchero. But I'm not a fan of Chet, Duren, Hardy,.
If we fall in the lottery, I'm like Kendall Brown, Keegan Murray, Dyson Daniels to name a few


ok update 3.0

- still high on Jabari at number 1
-completely out on Duren, wouldn't take him in the lottery
- warming up to Chet, his skill level at his height+length is just too much to pass up at certain level, and his advanced stats are stellar
- super high on Brown, i would look at him in the top 5
- lukewarm on Banchero, I'm just not a big fan of his archetype and he doesnt really play defense
- Ivey is intriguing

I think my top 5 list atm would be something like

1. Smith
and then some order of Chet/Ivey/Banchero/Brown

I think
1. Smith
2. Holmgren
3. Brown
4. Ivey
5. Banchero
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Post#218 » by MotownMadness » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:34 am

He's pretty much my perfect modern day 4. Then add a 7 ft rim protector next to him.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#219 » by reanimator » Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:22 pm

The Moose wrote:
The Moose wrote:
The Moose wrote:Jabari is my pick so far


update, I'm still not very high on this class overall.

At the top I like Jabari still, wouldn't mind Banchero. But I'm not a fan of Chet, Duren, Hardy,.
If we fall in the lottery, I'm like Kendall Brown, Keegan Murray, Dyson Daniels to name a few


ok update 3.0

- still high on Jabari at number 1
-completely out on Duren, wouldn't take him in the lottery
- warming up to Chet, his skill level at his height+length is just too much to pass up at certain level, and his advanced stats are stellar
- super high on Brown, i would look at him in the top 5
- lukewarm on Banchero, I'm just not a big fan of his archetype and he doesnt really play defense
- Ivey is intriguing

I think my top 5 list atm would be something like

1. Smith
and then some order of Chet/Ivey/Banchero/Brown

I think
1. Smith
2. Holmgren
3. Brown
4. Ivey
5. Banchero



Why so low on Paolo?

Love Kendall Brown. Unfortunately I don't think the Pistons have the type of roster to maximize his Iggy-like swiss army knife skillset.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#220 » by bstein14 » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:28 pm

We still shouldn't be considering fit with current roster at all. Cade can play either guard spot. No one else on our roster is good enough to be a guaranteed starter on a good team. We just need to take the best player and run with it. Dumars made the comment about taking Darko over Melo partly because he was so high on young Tayshaun Prince and that's just a recipe for disaster when our roster needs talent everything. If we're already a good team and drafting later in the first round and want to try and fill a specific backup position in the rotation than sure draft a guy for that need but we will need pretty much everything.

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