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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2021 » by ElectricMayhem » Sun May 18, 2014 2:45 am

Rumors are that Love wants out of Minnesota, so if they want anything back for him, they have to trade him this year.

Detroit gets:
Kevin Love

Minnesota gets:
S&T Greg Monroe

Why for Detroit:
We get one year to convince Kevin Love that he's a perfect fit with Andre Drummond. SVG convinces Josh Smith to come off the bench for the best 3 big man rotation in the league. It's a huge risk on our part, as there is a large chance Love would walk away at the end of the year, but the potential reward is also extremely high.

Why for Minnesota:
Getting a young borderline All-Star locked into a contract for 4 years is the best they'll be able to get for a one year rental of Love. The only way they'll get more is if Love agrees to resign with whatever team trades for him beforehand.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2022 » by Kilo » Sun May 18, 2014 2:52 am

I think Love ends up in LA for the Lakers #6 overall + come draft night. I don't trade for Love because I think he's heading to LAL as a FA the following year no matter what regardless.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2023 » by ElectricMayhem » Sun May 18, 2014 2:55 am

I agree that he probably is going to the Lakers. Usually when I propose trades, it's something I'm on the fence about, because when I post trades that I want to happen, more than likely it's a homer trade.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2024 » by Kilo » Sun May 18, 2014 2:56 am

I could see Golden State making a big play for Love though - to put him alongside Bogut. Lee and Klay for Love works in the trade checker. Or to Sacto to play alongside Cousins - #7, McLemore and Gay to make the salaries work.

Love is going to sign in Cali only, so it will be a Cali-based team bidding war. PHX might try to involve themselves as well and hope close proximity would be enough.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2025 » by paQo the BAWSER » Sun May 18, 2014 3:34 am

Clarity wrote:it will always be funny when someone thinks they know something better than the people who invented it.

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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2026 » by Q00 » Sun May 18, 2014 4:04 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:Rumors are that Love wants out of Minnesota, so if they want anything back for him, they have to trade him this year.

Detroit gets:
Kevin Love

Minnesota gets:
S&T Greg Monroe

Why for Detroit:
We get one year to convince Kevin Love that he's a perfect fit with Andre Drummond. SVG convinces Josh Smith to come off the bench for the best 3 big man rotation in the league. It's a huge risk on our part, as there is a large chance Love would walk away at the end of the year, but the potential reward is also extremely high.

Why for Minnesota:
Getting a young borderline All-Star locked into a contract for 4 years is the best they'll be able to get for a one year rental of Love. The only way they'll get more is if Love agrees to resign with whatever team trades for him beforehand.


I'm not a huge Love fan, but I'd take a chance on him for a year. Worst case he walks and we have tons of capspace next year, no different than if we let Monroe walk this year.

Honestly though I could see McDermott becoming a lesser rebounding version of Love, who we could get guaranteed for only 3 mil/yr compared to max money for Love. Just something to consider, but I'd do your proposed trade anyways because McDermott could also end up the next Adam Morrison, and Love is a proven offensive star.

Even if he wants to go to LA/NY, unless he has a no trade clause, it doesn't matter where he wants to play. Flip will trade him to whoever makes the best offer. Neither LA/NY having anything as valuable as Monroe. Carmelo isn't going to opt out and agree to a trade/extension with Minnesota, and MIN isn't going to trade one star on an expiring contract for another, who would leave at the end of the year as well. NY has Chandler, but I don't see why MIN would prefer a 31 yr old Chandler over Monroe, and the Lakers simply have nothing.

So if the Pistons were willing to gamble on him resigning, and Flip decided to trade him, its hard to think of any teams who can make a better offer (and are willing to). Lots of teams have good young talent, but most aren't willing to give it up, and what they are usually willing to offer likely isn't as good as Monroe. ie, CLE isn't going to trade Irving just for 1 year rental of Love. They'd offer up Waiters and garbage that isn't as valuable as Greg.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2027 » by Neptune » Sun May 18, 2014 5:52 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:Rumors are that Love wants out of Minnesota, so if they want anything back for him, they have to trade him this year.

Detroit gets:
Kevin Love

Minnesota gets:
S&T Greg Monroe

I know DetroitSho will say something about the S&T rule again(Lol). But I'll definitely do this trade! I'm all for keeping Monroe, but getting Love next to Drummond would be insane.

If we're being realistic though, this off-season I see the Lakers giving up everything/anything for Love except for Kobe.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2028 » by Clarity » Sun May 18, 2014 5:55 am

paQo the BAWSER wrote:
Clarity wrote:it will always be funny when someone thinks they know something better than the people who invented it.

This is one of the worst arguments I've heard in my whole life. I don't know how you can't be ashamed. Well, I know but I don't want to be banned again :lol:


You often mistake fact for argument. That wasnt a discussion starter.

Either way, stop being so emotional on here, its a bad look.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2029 » by ElectricMayhem » Sun May 18, 2014 6:23 am

Neptune wrote:I know DetroitSho will say something about the S&T rule again(Lol). But I'll definitely do this trade! I'm all for keeping Monroe, but getting Love next to Drummond would be insane.

If we're being realistic though, this off-season I see the Lakers giving up everything/anything for Love except for Kobe.



I don't think DetroitSho will say anything about the S&T rule as I didn't package him with any other players.

I'm not sure how much the Lakers will give up if they are confident that Love will end up signing with them in 2015 anyway. That's the mistake NY made in overpaying for Anthony when it was widely assumed he was planning on going there anyway. Then again, if the Lakers are that confident they are getting Love, would we really want to give up anything of value to get him for just one year of Drummond-Love memories?

Also, I put this trade up in the trades & transactions board. A poster made a fair point that Minnesota isn't the best fit for Monroe. Monroe and Pekovic don't seem to complement each other...It would be a very plodding front line.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2030 » by Q00 » Sun May 18, 2014 6:51 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:
Neptune wrote:I know DetroitSho will say something about the S&T rule again(Lol). But I'll definitely do this trade! I'm all for keeping Monroe, but getting Love next to Drummond would be insane.

If we're being realistic though, this off-season I see the Lakers giving up everything/anything for Love except for Kobe.



I don't think DetroitSho will say anything about the S&T rule as I didn't package him with any other players.

I'm not sure how much the Lakers will give up if they are confident that Love will end up signing with them in 2015 anyway. That's the mistake NY made in overpaying for Anthony when it was widely assumed he was planning on going there anyway. Then again, if the Lakers are that confident they are getting Love, would we really want to give up anything of value to get him for just one year of Drummond-Love memories?

Also, I put this trade up in the trades & transactions board. A poster made a fair point that Minnesota isn't the best fit for Monroe. Monroe and Pekovic don't seem to complement each other...It would be a very plodding front line.


I don't think Pekovic is in Minnesota's future plans though. I see them moving him at some point and going forward with Dieng up front. He showed capable of producing the same on a cheaper deal and is younger. Monroe/Pekovic isn't a good fit, but Monroe/Dieng could be a great fit.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2031 » by Neptune » Sun May 18, 2014 6:58 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:
Neptune wrote:I know DetroitSho will say something about the S&T rule again(Lol). But I'll definitely do this trade! I'm all for keeping Monroe, but getting Love next to Drummond would be insane.

If we're being realistic though, this off-season I see the Lakers giving up everything/anything for Love except for Kobe.



I don't think DetroitSho will say anything about the S&T rule as I didn't package him with any other players.

I'm not sure how much the Lakers will give up if they are confident that Love will end up signing with them in 2015 anyway. That's the mistake NY made in overpaying for Anthony when it was widely assumed he was planning on going there anyway. Then again, if the Lakers are that confident they are getting Love, would we really want to give up anything of value to get him for just one year of Drummond-Love memories?

Also, I put this trade up in the trades & transactions board. A poster made a fair point that Minnesota isn't the best fit for Monroe. Monroe and Pekovic don't seem to complement each other...It would be a very plodding front line.

I was just joking about DetroitSho.

I think the Lakers will trade for Love this off-season more-so to offer him a 5yr deal in 2015. I can see Love being the new face of Lakers if he indeed goes to LA. Love hasn't won anything, so going to LA with all the bright lights and endorsements will probably keep him happy. In my opinion the Lakers seem confident and don't seem scared to take chances, remember how they took a risk and trading for Howard without insurance. If I was SVG I would only trade for Love if he clearly said, "I'll re-sign with the Pistons".

Yeah that's a good point, a Monroe/Pekovic front-court would be terrible. Our Monroe/Drummond pairing has high potential mainly because of Drummond's athleticism.
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Post#2032 » by kf96 » Sun May 18, 2014 8:12 am

Kilo wrote:I think Love ends up in LA for the Lakers #6 overall + come draft night. I don't trade for Love because I think he's heading to LAL as a FA the following year no matter what regardless.


Yeah he said that he want either in LAL or NY

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Post#2033 » by Warspite » Sun May 18, 2014 12:52 pm

Lakers dont have anything to offer except for there 2014 pick. Best thing Pistons could do in a Love trade is take back Nash and send assets to T wolves. Something like a KCP and pick swap on draft night. Those picks sent to Twolves and the & then you do a Monroe/Love/Nash trade in July. Pistons new backcourt is Nash/Exum. Somewhat unrealistic and other teams surely would propose better deals.
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Re: The Trade Thread 

Post#2034 » by DetroitSho » Sun May 18, 2014 1:02 pm

kf96 wrote:
Kilo wrote:I think Love ends up in LA for the Lakers #6 overall + come draft night. I don't trade for Love because I think he's heading to LAL as a FA the following year no matter what regardless.


Yeah he said that he want either in LAL or NY

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Why the hell would he want to go to NY?

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Post#2035 » by Kilo » Sun May 18, 2014 1:13 pm

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kf96 wrote:
Kilo wrote:I think Love ends up in LA for the Lakers #6 overall + come draft night. I don't trade for Love because I think he's heading to LAL as a FA the following year no matter what regardless.


Yeah he said that he want either in LAL or NY

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Exposure. Love is criminally under exposed as a star in the league because he is hidden away in Minnesota. He wants the mainstream exposure and shoe deals and the like.
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Post#2036 » by ImHeisenberg » Sun May 18, 2014 2:20 pm

Detroit would be gambling to trade for Love.

Unless you're the Lakers, I wouldn't plan on keeping him after the 14/15 season.

I definitely wouldn't give up our draft pick for him.

But, I would do a sign and trade for Monroe for him.
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Post#2037 » by HotelVitale » Sun May 18, 2014 3:36 pm

Q00 wrote: its hard to think of any teams who can make a better offer (and are willing to).


Warspite wrote:Lakers dont have anything to offer except for there 2014 pick. Best thing Pistons could do in a Love trade is take back Nash and send assets to T wolves. Something like a KCP and pick swap on draft night. Those picks sent to Twolves and the & then you do a Monroe/Love/Nash trade in July. Pistons new backcourt is Nash/Exum. Somewhat unrealistic and other teams surely would propose better deals.


The Bulls clearly have a much better offer than the Lakers, Warriors, or Suns, and Love has expressed interest in playing for them. Bulls have the two firsts this year and future picks, plus Mirotic (who'd be a top-5 pick this year), plus good younger players like Gibson or Butler to make salaries work. The Wolves would be getting back a very good starter in Gibson/Butler plus a replacement for Love in Mirotic and whatever comes of the two firsts.

Weird that no articles mention this--guess it's more exciting if everyone assumes the Lakers are the only team anyone would ever want to play for? Or that the Warriors could somehow steal Love despite having zero good quality assets (save maybe Barnes)?
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Post#2038 » by paQo the BAWSER » Sun May 18, 2014 4:21 pm

I know it's nearly impossible this trade, but could be great for both teams imo.

Monroe and Smith x Iguodala and Lee.
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Post#2039 » by Neptune » Sun May 18, 2014 6:57 pm

paQo the BAWSER wrote:Monroe and Smith x Iguodala and Lee.

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Post#2040 » by kurtis48239 » Mon May 19, 2014 12:17 am

ImHeisenberg wrote:Detroit would be gambling to trade for Love.

Unless you're the Lakers, I wouldn't plan on keeping him after the 14/15 season.

I definitely wouldn't give up our draft pick for him.

But, I would do a sign and trade for Monroe for him.

Another thing that could sway him to stay besides having a great young partner in dre and a top 5 coach,is singler.Having that friend in singler and 1 year here might be enough to sway him to stay,not to mention getting out of the western conference and in to the eastern,with love on this team we would more than likely make it to the second round of the playoffs and that could be another factor.If all else fails and he walks after the season then were basicly in the same boat with monroe walking and saving that money,except people wont feel like we just let monroe walk and at least got something back.I think its a win/win.

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