The Trade Thread

[Kilo]

If Smith accepted and embraced 6th man role we'd be much better off keeping him unless a team was willing to pay dollar for dollar in a fair need for need trade for him - with a three big rotation we'd always have at least one shot blocker on the floor as well. Sheed, Ben and McDyess was pretty effective for us afterall.

In the very least Stan will have a sit down and a man-to-man, face-to-face talk with Smith to get a read to where his head is with such a possibility so Stan will know if it's at all feasible.

SVG has said he's not going to form any opinions until he watches all 82 games from last season, and will require any new scouts, coaches, GM's to do the same as part of orientation process and won't look to discuss what he's saw in his watching of the games until after these other hires have watched it with their fresh eyes to form their own opinions to guard against groupthink on players.

[DetroitSho]

Smith played awful this last year, but some people here are losing themselves.

16 points 7 rebounds 3 assists playing out of his position with an awful coach and a stupid GM who said him he was a star and he was going to be our franchise player, so he got go-head to shoot.

I'm tired of people making this bogus argument. When did Joe D or even Cheeks or ANYONE for that matter ever say Smith was our #1 option LET ALONE call him our franchise player. I wish when you post you wouldn't blatantly make things up.

By the way, Smith makes me hate basketball but even I can admit the guy is a star.

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[tmorgan]

How about something easy...

Jennings/#8 for Afflalo/#12.

We move back in a draft with decent PG talent and can still grab one of Napier, Enis, Levine at 12.
Orlando gets a starting point and moves up in the draft to fill a roster spot with a little better talent.

Not really sexy, but solves the need for a wing. It also removes Jennings. I think I like this:

Enis
KCP
Afflalo
Smith
Drummond

Better than this:

Jennings
KCP
McDermott
Smith
Drummond

The issue with this is that there aren't (in my opinion) any viable picks for a PG with #12 -- I don't think any of those guys are likely to be above-average NBA starting point guards, certainly not now, probably not ever.

I have no problem with the trade if we can use the #12 and other assets to get a real PG, though. This team has plenty of players to develop as it is, so unless we're picking top 3-4 and getting one of the potential all-stars, I have no particular attachment to drafting this year.

[ayatooma]

How about something easy...

Jennings/#8 for Afflalo/#12.

We move back in a draft with decent PG talent and can still grab one of Napier, Enis, Levine at 12.
Orlando gets a starting point and moves up in the draft to fill a roster spot with a little better talent.

Not really sexy, but solves the need for a wing. It also removes Jennings. I think I like this:

Enis
KCP
Afflalo
Smith
Drummond

Better than this:

Jennings
KCP
McDermott
Smith
Drummond

The issue with this is that there aren't (in my opinion) any viable picks for a PG with #12 -- I don't think any of those guys are likely to be above-average NBA starting point guards, certainly not now, probably not ever.

I have no problem with the trade if we can use the #12 and other assets to get a real PG, though. This team has plenty of players to develop as it is, so unless we're picking top 3-4 and getting one of the potential all-stars, I have no particular attachment to drafting this year.

I am surprised that you don't think any of these guys are any good. Levine is considered a project, but his measurables at the combine were ridiculous. Enis is a freshman, but I saw some things I liked about him at Cuse this year. Bazz is not someone I like at 12, but he has ice in his veins. Definitely a capable group...not all stars, but capable. With the folks you put around them I think that you can have success. Especially because your defense is vastly improved in the lineup above.

[paQo the BAWSER]

Smith played awful this last year, but some people here are losing themselves.

16 points 7 rebounds 3 assists playing out of his position with an awful coach and a stupid GM who said him he was a star and he was going to be our franchise player, so he got go-head to shoot.

I'm tired of people making this bogus argument. When did Joe D or even Cheeks or ANYONE for that matter ever say Smith was our #1 option LET ALONE call him our franchise player. I wish when you post you wouldn't blatantly make things up.

By the way, Smith makes me hate basketball but even I can admit the guy is a star.

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Got a question for you. Why Monroe don't speak clear to him and he explained he was (Monroe) the first reference on our team?

[DetroitSho]

Smith played awful this last year, but some people here are losing themselves.

16 points 7 rebounds 3 assists playing out of his position with an awful coach and a stupid GM who said him he was a star and he was going to be our franchise player, so he got go-head to shoot.

I'm tired of people making this bogus argument. When did Joe D or even Cheeks or ANYONE for that matter ever say Smith was our #1 option LET ALONE call him our franchise player. I wish when you post you wouldn't blatantly make things up.

By the way, Smith makes me hate basketball but even I can admit the guy is a star.

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Got a question for you. Why Monroe don't speak clear to him and he explained he was (Monroe) the first reference on our team?

Got a question for you:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DVVLsUUWrQY

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[Neptune]

You're against every Smoove trade that I can remember. He LOST games last year. He is older than the core. His fit here is highly questionable.

Jennings for Jason Thompson is fine. Possibly flat-out good. Possibly for both teams.

Turning Smoove into 2 expirings while opening up summer cap? That is GREAT. Terry and Outlaw might even be bought out, but the extra cap could land us a nice player like Hinrich or Dunleavy or Ariza.

Detroit will have 2 max bigs in 2 years and KCP/Singler/8th/GuyWeTradeFor will need raises sooner or later.

There is no team in the league that can spend intelligently with the reason being that "we're not really hurting in the cap space department." It makes more sense to say Smoove is our new Villanueva - that he loses games by being on the roster.

Not really bro. I remember I agreed with these trades involving Smith:
Smith for Rudy Gay
Smith for Jeff Green
Smith for Hayward(I forgot the entire deal)

Why waste cap space on Hinrich, Dunleavy and Ariza when they all suck( ). Ariza was only good because he's playing for a new contract. And Smith is no where near the caliber player CV was. That's just silly man.

Okay, good.
I want Smoove gone. Although, I could conceive of a revamped Pistons roster that he would look good in, I guess.

But, Hinrich, Dunleavy do not suck in their roles. Ariza would probably be overpaid, so I'm not that interested in him. How about Anthony Morrow on the cheap? I think SVG might get him in the rotation rainin' treys on people.

Anywho...it did strike me a few times (at least) that you crapped on Smoove trades. Remember, it's not just his skill, but that he overrates himself and will probably decline athletically by the end of this contract.

I'll definitely take Anthony Morrow! He's still young and he's a great 3pt shooter. I wanted the Pistons to sign him last summer.

I've always been under the impression that if Smith loses his athletically ability while under contract he'll convert to our new 6th man. I'm all for making the Piston better, but trading Smith for trash and expiring contracts won't improve our team. If we did trade him for an expiring contract(with less talent), we should at least get a future 1st added in the deal. That's my friendly opinion.

[Notanoob]

I'm tired of people making this bogus argument. When did Joe D or even Cheeks or ANYONE for that matter ever say Smith was our #1 option LET ALONE call him our franchise player. I wish when you post you wouldn't blatantly make things up.

By the way, Smith makes me hate basketball but even I can admit the guy is a star.

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Got a question for you. Why Monroe don't speak clear to him and he explained he was (Monroe) the first reference on our team?

Got a question for you:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DVVLsUUWrQY

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Don't be mean about it, English isn't his first language.

His question was "why didn't Monroe make it clear to Smith that Monroe was the first option on offense?" I believe the answer to that question is that Monroe doesn't worry about getting touches, and was not going to start anything with his new teammates who just signed big contracts.

Although it's frustrating that Smith and Jennings took all of the shots, it is nice to have someone who won't complain when they aren't getting a lot of touches on offense.

And paQo the BAWSER, I believe the word that you were looking for was "option" instead of "reference".

[BadMofoPimp]

How about something easy...

Jennings/#8 for Afflalo/#12.

I am quite positive Orlando would do this deal mainly because they are at the bottom rebuilding and the 8th Pick could nab them Vonleh or Randle to go with Smart or Wiggins with Oladipo, Harris and Vucevic already on the roster. That is your future starting 5 while you would have Jennings off bench for instant offense.

Afflalo and Ennis or Stauskus would still be a nice lineup for the Pistons next year in Stan Mode. Stan would loooove a player like Afflalo.

[Neptune]

How about something easy...

Jennings/#8 for Afflalo/#12.


Enis
KCP
Afflalo
Smith
Drummond

Better than this:

Jennings
KCP
McDermott
Smith
Drummond

No

Unless Ennis is the new coming of Lillard, I'll pass and hope Jennings gets it together. I bet the Magic would love this deal though. Getting Jennings+8th pick for Afflalo is an incredible offer for a rebuilding team.

[DetroitSho]

Got a question for you. Why Monroe don't speak clear to him and he explained he was (Monroe) the first reference on our team?

Got a question for you:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DVVLsUUWrQY

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Don't be mean about it, English isn't his first language.

His question was "why didn't Monroe make it clear to Smith that Monroe was the first option on offense?" I believe the answer to that question is that Monroe doesn't worry about getting touches, and was not going to start anything with his new teammates who just signed big contracts.

Although it's frustrating that Smith and Jennings took all of the shots, it is nice to have someone who won't complain when they aren't getting a lot of touches on offense.

And paQo the BAWSER, I believe the word that you were looking for was "option" instead of "reference".

This same poster who accused another poster of performing homosexual acts with other posters is all of sudden supposed to be a sympathetic figure now? By the way, nothing mean about what I did, I had little idea what he was saying.

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[Clarity]

This same poster who accused another poster of performing homosexual acts with other posters is all of sudden supposed to be a sympathetic figure now? By the way, nothing mean about what I did, I had little idea what he was saying.

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[kf96]

Here is maybe a little good news.
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If Kings want to trade pick for.some veteran maybe they are stupid enought to take Josh Smith.
Lets hope so.

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[MotorCityFanBoy]

What kind of players/assets could Monroe return VIA trade if we really feel we need to surround Drummond with better shooters?

[Han Solo]

Monroe for Ben McLemore and the Kings 8th pick?

[The Moose]

How about:

Josh Smith for Carl Landry, Jason Thompson and 8th pick

[Kilo]

Just a note on trading Monroe -

Any S&T he has to want to go to that other team. We can match any offer, but we can't trade him for a year anywhere without his then agreeing, but if he agreed he could be dealt come December 15th(or whatever) to any team OTHER than the offer sheet team.

[504ByrdGang]

Just a note on trading Monroe -

Any S&T he has to want to go to that other team. We can match any offer, but we can't trade him for a year anywhere without his then agreeing, but if he agreed he could be dealt come December 15th(or whatever) to any team OTHER than the offer sheet team.

People are seeming to forget this biggest aspect he will not want o play for the Kings or Sixers or Wolves. Realistic options are Pelicans, Lakers, Celtics, Wiz, and Suns.

[rmfc]

Just a note on trading Monroe -

Any S&T he has to want to go to that other team. We can match any offer, but we can't trade him for a year anywhere without his then agreeing, but if he agreed he could be dealt come December 15th(or whatever) to any team OTHER than the offer sheet team.

People are seeming to forget this biggest aspect he will not want o play for the Kings or Sixers or Wolves. Realistic options are Pelicans, Lakers, Celtics, Wiz, and Suns.

He will play wherever he can get the MAX money.

[kf96]

Rondo and #6 pick for Jennings Smith and #38

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