Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

[DNice68]

On Jaden Ivey and Jaden Harvey
‘It’s a no from me dawg’ on both!

[MrBigShot]

We still shouldn't be considering fit with current roster at all. Cade can play either guard spot. No one else on our roster is good enough to be a guaranteed starter on a good team. We just need to take the best player and run with it. Dumars made the comment about taking Darko over Melo partly because he was so high on young Tayshaun Prince and that's just a recipe for disaster when our roster needs talent everything. If we're already a good team and drafting later in the first round and want to try and fill a specific backup position in the rotation than sure draft a guy for that need but we will need pretty much everything.

This 100%. There is no fit right now, the fit for us = players with talent.

[The Moose]

update, I'm still not very high on this class overall.

At the top I like Jabari still, wouldn't mind Banchero. But I'm not a fan of Chet, Duren, Hardy,.
If we fall in the lottery, I'm like Kendall Brown, Keegan Murray, Dyson Daniels to name a few

ok update 3.0

- still high on Jabari at number 1
-completely out on Duren, wouldn't take him in the lottery
- warming up to Chet, his skill level at his height+length is just too much to pass up at certain level, and his advanced stats are stellar
- super high on Brown, i would look at him in the top 5
- lukewarm on Banchero, I'm just not a big fan of his archetype and he doesnt really play defense
- Ivey is intriguing

I think my top 5 list atm would be something like

1. Smith
and then some order of Chet/Ivey/Banchero/Brown

I think
1. Smith
2. Holmgren
3. Brown
4. Ivey
5. Banchero

Why so low on Paolo?

Love Kendall Brown. Unfortunately I don't think the Pistons have the type of roster to maximize his Iggy-like swiss army knife skillset.

hmm its not that I think he will be a total bust, but I think he might just be a fairly average to above average starter at the next level. His defense is not there at all really, and he doesn't seem to have the defensive instincts to make up for his average athleticism on that end. Outside of one game this season (against a bad team) he basically doesn't produce assists which is not overly surprising given his iso heavy game. Basically I see him as a one way 4 man, who doesn't really have playmaking skills.

In the NBA against players his size or bigger and just as strong, I worry that a lot of his bully ball style he's succeeding in the NCAA with will be neutralised. He should be a decent scorer in the NBA but I'm just not seeing enough in the other facets of his games to really love him as a prospect. He just kinda fits into my least favourite archetype of player which is basically a guy who needs the ball a lot to succeed, but doesn't create for others or give you much on defense. I'd rather someone like Chet/Brown who give you plenty on both sides of the ball and can play with and without the ball while having a more malleable game

[vic]

ok update 3.0

- still high on Jabari at number 1
-completely out on Duren, wouldn't take him in the lottery
- warming up to Chet, his skill level at his height+length is just too much to pass up at certain level, and his advanced stats are stellar
- super high on Brown, i would look at him in the top 5
- lukewarm on Banchero, I'm just not a big fan of his archetype and he doesnt really play defense
- Ivey is intriguing

I think my top 5 list atm would be something like

1. Smith
and then some order of Chet/Ivey/Banchero/Brown

I think
1. Smith
2. Holmgren
3. Brown
4. Ivey
5. Banchero

Why so low on Paolo?

Love Kendall Brown. Unfortunately I don't think the Pistons have the type of roster to maximize his Iggy-like swiss army knife skillset.

hmm its not that I think he will be a total bust, but I think he might just be a fairly average to above average starter at the next level. His defense is not there at all really, and he doesn't seem to have the defensive instincts to make up for his average athleticism on that end. Outside of one game this season (against a bad team) he basically doesn't produce assists which is not overly surprising given his iso heavy game. Basically I see him as a one way 4 man, who doesn't really have playmaking skills.

In the NBA against players his size or bigger and just as strong, I worry that a lot of his bully ball style he's succeeding in the NCAA with will be neutralised. He should be a decent scorer in the NBA but I'm just not seeing enough in the other facets of his games to really love him as a prospect. He just kinda fits into my least favourite archetype of player which is basically a guy who needs the ball a lot to succeed, but doesn't create for others or give you much on defense. I'd rather someone like Chet/Brown who give you plenty on both sides of the ball and can play with and without the ball while having a more malleable game

Listen to this man!

[reanimator]

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the aggression and intensity, the transition play, the secondary playmaking, and general attacking of the paint plus he is shooting 39 % from 3 (4.6 attempts). imagine cade hitting him on cuts to the rim or him filling the wings on the break?

is he perfect? no, but i'm shocked there is a large contingent that thinks he wouldn't be an asset

[vic]

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the aggression and intensity, the transition play, the secondary playmaking, and general attacking of the paint plus he is shooting 39 % from 3 (4.6 attempts). imagine cade hitting him on cuts to the rim or him filling the wings on the break?

is he perfect? no, but i'm shocked there is a large contingent that thinks he wouldn't be an asset

Totally agreed. He’s top 3 to me.

Not every athletic guard is necessarily a chucker. I think it’s called regency bias. A quick look at the numbers will show you a big difference between him and the Jalen Green/ Cam Thomas types.

Jaden Ivey is a plug & play benefit to any team from day one. The energy he plays with on both ends, he’s a baller. His mother is an NCAA coach.

To me the only guy definitely worth more than him is Jabari.

[zeebneeb]

Well, there certainly seems to be some difference pf opinion on this draft, that's for damn sure. Now I know it's just us talking in this thread, but I wonder what the talking heads think about it.

Is there a concensus developing around the top 3 guys yet?

[Piston Pete]

Smith
Banchero
Ivey

(In no particular order)

That seems to be the consensus top-3

[zeebneeb]

Smith
Banchero
Ivey

(In no particular order)

That seems to be the consensus top-3

I just got done checking, and I couldn't find any boards without Chet in the top 3.

I also didn't see any with Ivey in the top three either, highest being 4.

It's early as hell, so I'm not really taking anything seriously until like May.

[Piston Pete]

Oh, I meant that seems to be the consensus IN HERE

[BJK1]

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I’d be happy to see Weaver and co move back into the 20s to get this kid. Legit 7 footer with a 7’5”ish wingspan. Excellent rim protector who’s starting to show some ability to defend on the perimeter. Still pretty mechanical on offense, but can provide a roll threat and is actually pretty good from the FT line.

[MotownMadness]

Jaden Ivey with 16 at the half (4-4 from 3)

[DNice68]

Jaden Ivey with 16 at the half (4-4 from 3)

I would only consider him at 3 or 4. I feel the problem with this team is with the front court!

[MotownMadness]

Jaden Ivey with 16 at the half (4-4 from 3)

I would only consider him at 3 or 4. I feel the problem with this team is with the front court!

I have him at 3 behind Banchero and Smith. Chet just scared me too much.

[NYPiston]

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the aggression and intensity, the transition play, the secondary playmaking, and general attacking of the paint plus he is shooting 39 % from 3 (4.6 attempts). imagine cade hitting him on cuts to the rim or him filling the wings on the break?

is he perfect? no, but i'm shocked there is a large contingent that thinks he wouldn't be an asset

I've been pumping his tires for months, before most knew who he was. I've had him as a big riser on draft boards because his dynamic skillset is special. He's in my top 3 for sure.

[DNice68]

Jaden Ivey with 16 at the half (4-4 from 3)

I would only consider him at 3 or 4. I feel the problem with this team is with the front court!

I have him at 3 behind Banchero and Smith. Chet just scared me too much.

Yeah Chet’s so skinny, he will probably fill out, but it looks like it will take year’s!

[NYPiston]

I would only consider him at 3 or 4. I feel the problem with this team is with the front court!

You don't draft for need when you have such a lack of talent. Take the best talent available, Ivey is an elite talent in this draft.

[MotownMadness]

6-6 from 3, if he can shoot the 3 ball consistent to go with his explosiveness then he could be really good.

[NYPiston]

Well, there certainly seems to be some difference pf opinion on this draft, that's for damn sure. Now I know it's just us talking in this thread, but I wonder what the talking heads think about it.

Is there a concensus developing around the top 3 guys yet?

The scout consensus, which is obviously fluid, is almost universally Banchero, Holmgren and Smith in various orders. I suspect that Ivey is turning some heads though. Beyond those 4, nobody is really standing out yet.

[reanimator]

I only have Ivey behind Jabari. Paolo isn't the passer I thought he was and has a bunch of defensive ?