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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2321 » by MotownMadness » Wed May 4, 2022 8:30 pm

We just really need to get this pick right if we get lucky so hopefully Weaver does a good job. Land this fish and after that hell you can add the Mikal Bridges type as you go even from the play in area of the draft to start complementing our new foundation.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2322 » by NYPiston » Wed May 4, 2022 8:41 pm

zeebneeb wrote:]Absolutely. It's the reason I want Hayes to breakout so badly because he has great size (6'5 200+lbs)and is a hell of a defender, and passer.

The thought of having two badass guards in the frontcourt, has always been amazing to me, ever since the bad boys days. Having that again, but with that immense size, and switchability, makes my head spin.

I don't see a universe where the Pistons end up with Sharpe though, as Murray's name has been tossed around at 4 and 5. I hate that pick for the Pistons, but it is what it is I guess. Maybe if chet, Banchero, Smith, Ivey, and Murray all go, and the Pistons are sitting at 6th they take him, but it's a crapshoot to be honest.


James Edwards latest guess was that the Pistons had Murray at 4 and Sharpe at 5 with Ivey down to 7 or 8 I believe so it's not so far fetched to think that they could take Sharpe at 4 after all the draft preparation shakes out. It's still two months away and tbh, I highly doubt that Edwards has all the intel on what Weaver is really thinking so I wouldn't take his list as gospel.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2323 » by aad » Wed May 4, 2022 9:55 pm

I wouldn’t take sharpe top 5 we might not pick this high again for a long time so we need to get this pick right we need to get one of

Chet
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Ivey
Murray
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Post#2324 » by Pharaoh » Wed May 4, 2022 10:01 pm

aad wrote:I wouldn’t take sharpe top 5 we might not pick this high again for a long time so we need to get this pick right we need to get one of

Chet
Banchero
Smith
Ivey
Murray
Based on everything I've seen and read Sharpe is ahead of Murray and Ivey

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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2325 » by zeebneeb » Wed May 4, 2022 11:13 pm

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zeebneeb wrote:]Absolutely. It's the reason I want Hayes to breakout so badly because he has great size (6'5 200+lbs)and is a hell of a defender, and passer.

The thought of having two badass guards in the frontcourt, has always been amazing to me, ever since the bad boys days. Having that again, but with that immense size, and switchability, makes my head spin.

I don't see a universe where the Pistons end up with Sharpe though, as Murray's name has been tossed around at 4 and 5. I hate that pick for the Pistons, but it is what it is I guess. Maybe if chet, Banchero, Smith, Ivey, and Murray all go, and the Pistons are sitting at 6th they take him, but it's a crapshoot to be honest.


James Edwards latest guess was that the Pistons had Murray at 4 and Sharpe at 5 with Ivey down to 7 or 8 I believe so it's not so far fetched to think that they could take Sharpe at 4 after all the draft preparation shakes out. It's still two months away and tbh, I highly doubt that Edwards has all the intel on what Weaver is really thinking so I wouldn't take his list as gospel.
I really like he has Ivey lower. Besides fit, I don't like his game.

Murray is a bummer though.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2326 » by Canadafan » Thu May 5, 2022 3:27 pm

So;
May 17th=Draft lottery
June 23rd=Draft
JULY 1ST=Free agency

Kinda hoping we end up with Cades future backcourt partner in the draft.
And the suns don't match for Ayton
Or we get our future dominant big man in the draft.
And Beal decides he wants to play for us hehe
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2327 » by flow » Thu May 5, 2022 4:16 pm

The Ringer (Kevin O'Connor) put out its draft guide and combined it with a mock draft. While O'Connor's credibility may be tarnished for his fluffing of Killian a couple years ago, he puts together a decent players guide, complete with skill-set tabs (deep-dive mode).

As for the mock, he has the Pistons picking 7th! and taking Murray there.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft?_ga=2.170170528.1852669399.1651726969-1301375923.1648151673

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Post#2328 » by Drwho17 » Thu May 5, 2022 4:44 pm

At the top of the draft, I think they need to go for it. If they get the chance, I think they should get Holmgren or Sharpe based on them potentially being stars, Smith/Banchero I see as future good players, then the rest. The Pistons are in a position where they can either play it safe or go for it, my preference is to go for it with Holmgren or Sharpe.
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Post#2329 » by hoophabit » Thu May 5, 2022 5:03 pm

I'm not as down on Murray as some seem to be. He seems a versatile player. I remember last year when Barnes was considered something of a consolation prize, but he was better than many wanted to credit. I mean, sure I hope we get #1 again, but there will be help available wherever we pick.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2330 » by bstein14 » Thu May 5, 2022 5:44 pm

Pharaoh wrote:
aad wrote:I wouldn’t take sharpe top 5 we might not pick this high again for a long time so we need to get this pick right we need to get one of

Chet
Banchero
Smith
Ivey
Murray
Based on everything I've seen and read Sharpe is ahead of Murray and Ivey

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There's almost zero chance that Sharpe is a better player than Murray or Ivey right now. He might be a better prospect with higher upside, but he is much less of a sure thing given what we've seen from all three players.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2331 » by mattao313 » Thu May 5, 2022 6:51 pm

It's s lot of people on the Sharpe bandwagon lol. This guy has no time in a semi competitive league it would be hard for me to pick him above Chet, banchero, smith, and Ivey. At around 5 tho I'd probably do it.

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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2332 » by bstein14 » Thu May 5, 2022 8:34 pm

mattao313 wrote:It's s lot of people on the Sharpe bandwagon lol. This guy has no time in a semi competitive league it would be hard for me to pick him above Chet, banchero, smith, and Ivey. At around 5 tho I'd probably do it.

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For sure.... Just being ranked at the top of a HS class doesn't mean much.

2021 rankings had Chet, Jaden Hardy and Emoni Bates in the top 3.

Hardy is now projected in the mid 20s and Bates likely has fallen to a late first rounder in 2023 unless he has a huge sophomore season somewhere.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2333 » by buzzkilloton » Fri May 6, 2022 12:42 am

bstein14 wrote:
mattao313 wrote:It's s lot of people on the Sharpe bandwagon lol. This guy has no time in a semi competitive league it would be hard for me to pick him above Chet, banchero, smith, and Ivey. At around 5 tho I'd probably do it.

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For sure.... Just being ranked at the top of a HS class doesn't mean much.

2021 rankings had Chet, Jaden Hardy and Emoni Bates in the top 3.

Hardy is now projected in the mid 20s and Bates likely has fallen to a late first rounder in 2023 unless he has a huge sophomore season somewhere.


viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2186004

Poster broke down all the data. The composite rank 1 high school players average draft position is pick 3 in the NBA draft.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2334 » by tmorgan » Fri May 6, 2022 3:47 am

To me, it boils down to what you’re giving up if you draft Sharpe.

If we get the first pick, I’d either take Chet or look to trade down to take Sharpe.
Second pick, Chet if available or the same.
Third pick, more of the same. Unless something amazing or weird happens in workouts, the three bigs go 1-2-3.
Now from fourth on, Sharpe is my pick. If he’s gone and the bigs are gone, I’d rather trade down into two firsts than take Ivey, Mathurin, or Murray. Ending up with say Dyson Daniels and Mark Williams would be a great use of draft assets.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2335 » by Canadafan » Fri May 6, 2022 10:44 am

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Post#2336 » by Pharaoh » Fri May 6, 2022 12:30 pm

Canadafan wrote:https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/NBA-Draft-2022-Chet-Holmgren-highlights-first-mock-draft-selections-from-CBS-Sports-186791598/#186791598_6

Imagine and dream it into existence. We get that pick from Portland too :nod: :P
Ain't no way Portland give #6 for Grant, not if Sharpe is there.

Coming out if the Draft with Jabari and Sharpe is a pipe dream that would likely set us up for a decade

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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2337 » by reanimator » Fri May 6, 2022 1:56 pm

Seems like consensus here is

high on Sharpe, Chet
neutral on Paolo, Jabari
low on Ivey

correct?

just want to nail this down now to accurately assess retroactively.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2338 » by flow » Fri May 6, 2022 2:39 pm

'Who is Leonard Miller?'

Good article. Like they used to write 'em.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2022/05/nba-draft-leonard-miller-kentucky-arizona-g-league-ignite-overtime-elite

Kid was just declared eligible for the draft a couple days ago.

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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2339 » by buzzkilloton » Fri May 6, 2022 3:00 pm

reanimator wrote:Seems like consensus here is

high on Sharpe, Chet
neutral on Paolo, Jabari
low on Ivey

correct?

just want to nail this down now to accurately assess retroactively.


Most seem high on Smith Chets hit or miss it seems. Paolo more on the low side.

Ivey seems to be hated on twitter and pistons forums where i read.

Sharpe most like but some arent into the unknown.

Murray is the neutral one it seems
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2340 » by NYPiston » Fri May 6, 2022 3:00 pm

bstein14 wrote:

For sure.... Just being ranked at the top of a HS class doesn't mean much.

2021 rankings had Chet, Jaden Hardy and Emoni Bates in the top 3.

Hardy is now projected in the mid 20s and Bates likely has fallen to a late first rounder in 2023 unless he has a huge sophomore season somewhere.


Sure, but on the other side of the coin the 3 top recruits in the prior class were Green, Cade and Mobley so it cuts both ways. It's pretty much a 50/50 hit/miss rate. It's a risk but you're betting on elite talent as opposed to the safer bet of somebody like Murray who was a late bloomer and has less room for growth.

Fun fact when speaking about top recruits. I bet you guys didn't know that our very own Isiah Stewart was the #3 recruit in 2019.

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