Reggie Jackson Resigns 5/80

[detroitKG]

Not sure if it's been discussed, but what do the Pistons plan on doing with Jennings and Jackson? Who will start at PG? Will they both start? I can't see either one of them coming off the bench.

Jackson is our starting PG going forward. Jennings coming off a big injury is a wild card. It's be the sixth man of the bench or he gets moved. We'll see.

[Blkbrd671]

Not sure if it's been discussed, but what do the Pistons plan on doing with Jennings and Jackson? Who will start at PG? Will they both start? I can't see either one of them coming off the bench.

Jennings will come off the bench or be traded. RJ is clearly our PGOF , and i believe Jennings knew this as soon as we traded for RJ. SVG indicated he discussed it before it happened. SVG will give Jennings a chance to prove himself and he'll be playing for a contract, we'll probably deal him at the dead line. He'll most definitely be coming in with the 2nd unit

[Snakebites]

One of my all time favorite shows. Therapist.



Now, do go on. How/why were you banned from the general board?

Analrapist*

Too many infractions, essentially. The first two I deserved but I still think the third was bogus. The first was a few years ago, in a preseason prediction thread a ton of bulls' fans were saying that they were better than Miami so I said something like 'bulls' fans will be swimming in their own tears come this may'. A global mod who happens to be a bulls fan nailed me for trolling.

The second time was backseat moderating, I said a thread already existed with the same topic. That second one got me booted from the GB.

The third was in the PC thread, and it really postponed my ability to appeal. There was a global mod who was way off-topic in a thread so I reported the post. I got an infraction for 'abusing the report function', despite that being my first time reporting a post and that not being a rule in their official forum rules. I know it's not smart to report a mod but I was feeling especially frustrated with this individual and had a petty moment.


I've appealed like three or four times and been rejected every time so I don't bother anymore. I'm not missing the GB and I don't know how much I'd add there anyways. I just laugh that people can break violations left, right and center in the GB but yet the standard is so high for getting back in.

Oh well, it just means I get to post here more, which I find more enjoyable anyways.

Well, the Pistons board does not have a good history with mods, or global mods either. It's what essentially fractured the Pistons board, one of the biggest on realgm. It was a Miami Heat mod (it's been years now, so specifics escape me)and a global mod, and it was so.poorly handled (I mean our own mods starting fighting with mass, and other mods getting Piston posters unbanned e.t.c. it was a crap fest) that a huge chunk of Piston posters left, and created wtf detroit (which is still active). I joined there, and didn't come back here for awhile, but I just stopped posting altogether, until I ended up back here.

The Pistons board used to be massive, one of the biggest, really awesome. Maybe it'll get back that way, but man was that handled poorly back then.

I try not to post on the general board, as it almost seems like a trap. Say the wrong thing, and someone, who doesn't like your team, your done. What I try to do, is post, get my anger out of the way, then self edit, until it makes more sense, even keel wise.

The mods here (past and present)have always been fair, and stick up for Piston fans. So if o have to let off steam, or make a joke at the expense of Raptor fans, I do it here.

Way to bring up 10 year old history (and yes, it has been that long now).

I wasn't a big poster in the days you refer to, though I was a member (albeit an irrelevant one with a different username, Pistons#1), but I'm pretty sure the board has by now grown to be at least as big as it was back then in terms of population.

We're pretty active these days. WTF Detroit looks pretty inactive these days. This board is way more active than that one is now.

In terms of number of posts we are currently the 9th most active board on the forums, but I don't think that takes into account that we've grown quite a bit in the last couple of years, added a lot of new members.

[whitehops]

Not sure if it's been discussed, but what do the Pistons plan on doing with Jennings and Jackson? Who will start at PG? Will they both start? I can't see either one of them coming off the bench.

I think Jennings will come off the bench, especially as he comes back from injury. SVG also said that he can play the two together (Jackson played some SG in OKC) so I imagine we'll have that lineup at times too. As soon as Jennings gets back healthy I imagine they will both be playing close to 30 minutes a game.

[tmorgan]

Not sure if it's been discussed, but what do the Pistons plan on doing with Jennings and Jackson? Who will start at PG? Will they both start? I can't see either one of them coming off the bench.

I think Jennings will come off the bench, especially as he comes back from injury. SVG also said that he can play the two together (Jackson played some SG in OKC) so I imagine we'll have that lineup at times too. As soon as Jennings gets back healthy I imagine they will both be playing close to 30 minutes a game.

I can't see that. Reggie is going to play more than 30 at the point (say, 34). Jennings, once he's healthy, should get all the backup PG minutes (14), and I can see another 10 or so at SG, but that's about it. KCP and Meeks are going to play.

[Pharaoh]

Analrapist*

Too many infractions, essentially. The first two I deserved but I still think the third was bogus. The first was a few years ago, in a preseason prediction thread a ton of bulls' fans were saying that they were better than Miami so I said something like 'bulls' fans will be swimming in their own tears come this may'. A global mod who happens to be a bulls fan nailed me for trolling.

The second time was backseat moderating, I said a thread already existed with the same topic. That second one got me booted from the GB.

The third was in the PC thread, and it really postponed my ability to appeal. There was a global mod who was way off-topic in a thread so I reported the post. I got an infraction for 'abusing the report function', despite that being my first time reporting a post and that not being a rule in their official forum rules. I know it's not smart to report a mod but I was feeling especially frustrated with this individual and had a petty moment.


I've appealed like three or four times and been rejected every time so I don't bother anymore. I'm not missing the GB and I don't know how much I'd add there anyways. I just laugh that people can break violations left, right and center in the GB but yet the standard is so high for getting back in.

Oh well, it just means I get to post here more, which I find more enjoyable anyways.

Well, the Pistons board does not have a good history with mods, or global mods either. It's what essentially fractured the Pistons board, one of the biggest on realgm. It was a Miami Heat mod (it's been years now, so specifics escape me)and a global mod, and it was so.poorly handled (I mean our own mods starting fighting with mass, and other mods getting Piston posters unbanned e.t.c. it was a crap fest) that a huge chunk of Piston posters left, and created wtf detroit (which is still active). I joined there, and didn't come back here for awhile, but I just stopped posting altogether, until I ended up back here.

The Pistons board used to be massive, one of the biggest, really awesome. Maybe it'll get back that way, but man was that handled poorly back then.

I try not to post on the general board, as it almost seems like a trap. Say the wrong thing, and someone, who doesn't like your team, your done. What I try to do, is post, get my anger out of the way, then self edit, until it makes more sense, even keel wise.

The mods here (past and present)have always been fair, and stick up for Piston fans. So if o have to let off steam, or make a joke at the expense of Raptor fans, I do it here.

Way to bring up 10 year old history (and yes, it has been that long now).

I wasn't a big poster in the days you refer to, though I was a member (albeit an irrelevant one with a different username, Pistons#1), but I'm pretty sure the board has by now grown to be at least as big as it was back then in terms of population.

We're pretty active these days. WTF Detroit looks pretty inactive these days. This board is way more active than that one is now.

In terms of number of posts we are currently the 9th most active board on the forums, but I don't think that takes into account that we've grown quite a bit in the last couple of years, added a lot of new members.

And old ones bro

Anyone that wants the history of the board can ask Lip. Dude has Mod powers and was active back in the day when all that stuff happened.

I've posted about it twice since my "return" & would prefer not to tempt fate.

That said...I recommend Piston fans only post on the Pistons forum. It's safer for you

[Snakebites]

Well, the Pistons board does not have a good history with mods, or global mods either. It's what essentially fractured the Pistons board, one of the biggest on realgm. It was a Miami Heat mod (it's been years now, so specifics escape me)and a global mod, and it was so.poorly handled (I mean our own mods starting fighting with mass, and other mods getting Piston posters unbanned e.t.c. it was a crap fest) that a huge chunk of Piston posters left, and created wtf detroit (which is still active). I joined there, and didn't come back here for awhile, but I just stopped posting altogether, until I ended up back here.

The Pistons board used to be massive, one of the biggest, really awesome. Maybe it'll get back that way, but man was that handled poorly back then.

I try not to post on the general board, as it almost seems like a trap. Say the wrong thing, and someone, who doesn't like your team, your done. What I try to do, is post, get my anger out of the way, then self edit, until it makes more sense, even keel wise.

The mods here (past and present)have always been fair, and stick up for Piston fans. So if o have to let off steam, or make a joke at the expense of Raptor fans, I do it here.

Way to bring up 10 year old history (and yes, it has been that long now).

I wasn't a big poster in the days you refer to, though I was a member (albeit an irrelevant one with a different username, Pistons#1), but I'm pretty sure the board has by now grown to be at least as big as it was back then in terms of population.

We're pretty active these days. WTF Detroit looks pretty inactive these days. This board is way more active than that one is now.

In terms of number of posts we are currently the 9th most active board on the forums, but I don't think that takes into account that we've grown quite a bit in the last couple of years, added a lot of new members.

And old ones bro

Anyone that wants the history of the board can ask Lip. Dude has Mod powers and was active back in the day when all that stuff happened.

I've posted about it twice since my "return" & would prefer not to tempt fate.

That said...I recommend Piston fans only post on the Pistons forum. It's safer for you

The advent of individual board bans rather than outright bans for established posters have really changed the dynamic in that regard. Interventions by global mods and mods of other forums are largely unheard of now, and generally frowned upon by the current group of general mods we have now.

The Reaglm of 2015 is totally dissimilar to the Realgm that bred that crisis 10 years ago.

[BadMofoPimp]

The old board 10 years ago may have been massive, but it was a good old boys board. They were not that hospitable to newcomers. It was more like a private club most of the time where people only discussed or debated amongst themselves while ignoring everyone else half the time. Still was fun to visit though. But, RealGM was new and those that started it had that camraderie amongst themselves. The board is more friendly now.

[Pistone]

LAS VEGAS -- Two years ago, John Wall's max contract extension for five years and $80 million went under heavy scrutiny. Now, getting the two-time All-Star who has led the Wizards to the Eastern Conference semifinals twice since then, looks like a bargain.

"People talk about me getting $80 million, now you got people getting $85 million that haven't made the All-Star (Game) or anything like that," Wall said Tuesday while watching his summer league team compete vs. the Dallas Mavericks at Thomas & Mack Center. "I guess they came in at the right time. That new CBA kicked in and they're good now. Reggie Jackson gets five years, $80 million. I'm getting the same as Reggie Jackson."

http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/john-wall-im-getting-same-reggie-jackson

what a clown

[princeofpalace]

He has a point, ppl are getting huge contracts for simply being average

[Blkbrd671]

LAS VEGAS -- Two years ago, John Wall's max contract extension for five years and $80 million went under heavy scrutiny. Now, getting the two-time All-Star who has led the Wizards to the Eastern Conference semifinals twice since then, looks like a bargain.

"People talk about me getting $80 million, now you got people getting $85 million that haven't made the All-Star (Game) or anything like that," Wall said Tuesday while watching his summer league team compete vs. the Dallas Mavericks at Thomas & Mack Center. "I guess they came in at the right time. That new CBA kicked in and they're good now. Reggie Jackson gets five years, $80 million. I'm getting the same as Reggie Jackson."

http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/john-wall-im-getting-same-reggie-jackson

what a clown

When wall got his extension he still has a lot of question marks, so he's hypocritical in the sense. Also what the hell has john wall done besides semi round exits!? He sounds like a idiot , he made the deal, live with it


Detroit vs Everybody

[Blkbrd671]

He has a point, ppl are getting huge contracts for simply being average

he chose the wrong example though, makes him sound ignorant


Detroit vs Everybody

[Neptune]

LAS VEGAS -- Two years ago, John Wall's max contract extension for five years and $80 million went under heavy scrutiny. Now, getting the two-time All-Star who has led the Wizards to the Eastern Conference semifinals twice since then, looks like a bargain.

"People talk about me getting $80 million, now you got people getting $85 million that haven't made the All-Star (Game) or anything like that," Wall said Tuesday while watching his summer league team compete vs. the Dallas Mavericks at Thomas & Mack Center. "I guess they came in at the right time. That new CBA kicked in and they're good now. Reggie Jackson gets five years, $80 million. I'm getting the same as Reggie Jackson."

http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/john-wall-im-getting-same-reggie-jackson

what a clown

I don't see how he's a clown, Wall is actually good. Reggie isn't that good man and for some reason he got a 80mil deal. Forget the damn market for a second.

[princeofpalace]

He has a point, ppl are getting huge contracts for simply being average

he chose the wrong example though, makes him sound ignorant


Detroit vs Everybody

He chose another PG who is vastly inferior to him. It shows that RJ simply isn't regarded as a star level player by star level players in the NBA. That said, Superstars should be more like Lebron and take short deals to maximize their salaries. If Wall were a free agent hed be getting a lot more money than RJ is

[mattao313]

Even if Wall is better than Reggie that ain't cool man. Then on top of that he tries to clean it up with a halfhearted statement in the next paragraph.

[Pistone]

LAS VEGAS -- Two years ago, John Wall's max contract extension for five years and $80 million went under heavy scrutiny. Now, getting the two-time All-Star who has led the Wizards to the Eastern Conference semifinals twice since then, looks like a bargain.

"People talk about me getting $80 million, now you got people getting $85 million that haven't made the All-Star (Game) or anything like that," Wall said Tuesday while watching his summer league team compete vs. the Dallas Mavericks at Thomas & Mack Center. "I guess they came in at the right time. That new CBA kicked in and they're good now. Reggie Jackson gets five years, $80 million. I'm getting the same as Reggie Jackson."

http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/john-wall-im-getting-same-reggie-jackson

what a clown

I don't see how he's a clown, Wall is actually good. Reggie isn't that good man and for some reason he got a 80mil deal. Forget the damn market for a second.

he is a clown because he shows no respect for a colleague and especially because he signed the extension (80x5) before he did the ASG...just like reggie jackson

[hoophabit]

He has a point, ppl are getting huge contracts for simply being average

he chose the wrong example though, makes him sound ignorant


Detroit vs Everybody

He chose another PG who is vastly inferior to him. It shows that RJ simply isn't regarded as a star level player by star level players in the NBA. That said, Superstars should be more like Lebron and take short deals to maximize their salaries. If Wall were a free agent hed be getting a lot more money than RJ is

"Vastly inferior"? The stats say this is incorrect. They shoot very similar percentages both overall and from 3. Wall scored three more pts per game while getting 6 more minutes. Reggie, once he got starters minutes with Detroit, posted 2 triple doubles while Wall had none last year. Reggie shot free throws better, and was only .4 rebounds behind Wall despite the minutes disparity. I love Wall's game, but Reggie actually pretty much held his own with him. Given the difference in time frames for the contracts, Wall has nothing to complain about. However, I'm sure he'd like even more money.

[dVs33]

He has a point, ppl are getting huge contracts for simply being average

This is true.

It's not cool to name Reggie though. It does say a lot about what players think of him.
Our first game V Washington will be an interesting one.

[Pistone]

he chose the wrong example though, makes him sound ignorant


Detroit vs Everybody

He chose another PG who is vastly inferior to him. It shows that RJ simply isn't regarded as a star level player by star level players in the NBA. That said, Superstars should be more like Lebron and take short deals to maximize their salaries. If Wall were a free agent hed be getting a lot more money than RJ is

"Vastly inferior"? The stats say this is incorrect. They shoot very similar percentages both overall and from 3. Wall scored three more pts per game while getting 6 more minutes. Reggie, once he got starters minutes with Detroit, posted 2 triple doubles while Wall had none last year. Reggie shot free throws better, and was only .4 rebounds behind Wall despite the minutes disparity. I love Wall's game, but Reggie actually pretty much held his own with him. Given the difference in time frames for the contracts, Wall has nothing to complain about. However, I'm sure he'd like even more money.

totally agree

[313 Professor]

LAS VEGAS -- Two years ago, John Wall's max contract extension for five years and $80 million went under heavy scrutiny. Now, getting the two-time All-Star who has led the Wizards to the Eastern Conference semifinals twice since then, looks like a bargain.

"People talk about me getting $80 million, now you got people getting $85 million that haven't made the All-Star (Game) or anything like that," Wall said Tuesday while watching his summer league team compete vs. the Dallas Mavericks at Thomas & Mack Center. "I guess they came in at the right time. That new CBA kicked in and they're good now. Reggie Jackson gets five years, $80 million. I'm getting the same as Reggie Jackson."

http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/john-wall-im-getting-same-reggie-jackson

what a clown

A lot of people on here rationalize these deals as outsiders pointing to the market as the cause which is a legitimate reason. But, like I've mentioned in other threads, as professionals at their craft seeing somebody get paid equal to you that is not equal to you on the floor pisses these guys off. The idea that Reggie Jackson is making the same as a guy like Wall, and got more than Rondo, Monta Ellis, etc is truly disturbing to them. Kyle Lowry and Derozan are all-star caliber players yet Demarre Carroll comes to town making more than them. The media and air of political correctness in society keeps the players from going wild, but Wall has a very legitimate point and I agree with him 100%.

All the analytics, strategy, schemes, character judgments, and age aside the players know who can ball. The guys that are playmakers legitimately laugh at these 3&D guys and Reggie Jackson type players getting paid and then it gets offensive. RJ is gonna have a target on his back as "Mr. 80 Million Dollars" now, because he definitely hasn't earned 80 million in respect from the players. I think it's very likely he chokes and folds under that pressure too because he's not a baller like that. He's a SVG scheme stats player and he's kinda soft honestly. Jennings & Dinwiddie probably don't even respect Reggie as a human being or player, and are secretly going to enjoy every second of him crumbling with real ballers behind him and real expectations on him for the 1st time in his career. I feel you Brandon. I feel you Spencer. I feel you J-Wall. RJ is the scrub overpaid and overrated player you think he is. #ventover