FloridaMan78 wrote:BDM22 wrote:FloridaMan78 wrote:
Agree on Lenard.
Disagree with Bey. There was interest in Bey right from his rookie year. Weaver waited too long to trade him. In an interview he said it would take more than a couple firsts to trade for him. He could have and should have traded him for at least one first. He saw him every day and should have been able to gauge the whole situation and he waited too long to make a move with him. Bey absolutely was a mistake.
The Bey stuff is totally 20/20 hindsight though. If you look at Bey as a rookie and try to extrapolate him improving defensively and becoming this assassin 3 point shooter he looked like he could be as a rook, you want to keep that player. Not trade him. The issue is that his defense regressed if anything and he really struggled to shoot to start his 2nd and 3rd seasons, so his value had already dropped by the time you'd really think to yourself that he's not a long-term piece. You don't want to sell-low on a guy who might just be on a little shooting slump.
To say he should have known to trade Bey in year 1 is just expecting Weaver to magically predict Bey falling off after year 1, which I don't think is reasonable. Should have definitely took a swing on a different type of young player than a center when you have Duren, Stew, and Bagley already locked up, however.
Side note: He's now fallen to 32.7% from 3 in Atlanta (27% in his last 20 games... a classic Saddiq stretch), which is pretty bad when it's supposed to be your specialty. Makes me really curious about what he's going to get in free agency. He's like a 3&D guy that doesn't shoot well and can't play defense.
I would argue that’s exactly part of the job. Hindsight is 20/20 just like with Killian vs Haliburton. It’s still a miss IMO. Weaver saw Bey Daily dissected his game daily. Of all people he should have seen the writing on the wall. He could have gotten a first for him his second season.
You would have no real reason to believe the Saddiq was going to fall so hard as a shooter. He was a great shooter in college, 45% from 3 as a sophomore. Then 38% on high volume as a rookie, breaking the Pistons rookie record.
In the summer after his rookie season, I'm sure Weaver could have gotten a 1st for him, but when he started the next season unable to hit any shots, his value tanked. Other GM's see the same things we saw, and I don't think anyone could rationally say that Weaver should have traded Saddiq before his 2nd season, as if to magically foresee Saddiq forgetting how to shoot despite his track record. It's like trying to predict someone with no injury history is going to get injured.
Pistons fans would have rightfully rioted if we traded Saddiq after his rookie season lol. He was one of the few bright spots on that team.
