Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

[hoophabit]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2022-nba-mock-draft-dukes-paolo-banchero-goes-no-1-with-iowas-keegan-murray-a-surprising-no-3-pick/

This mock actually lists a lot of the reasons I like Chet better than his top 3:

Banchero’s game was protected and enhanced by an ELITE ELITE shot blocker and finisher.

Jabari Smith’s game was protected and enhanced by an ELITE ELITE finisher and shot blocker.

Keegan Murray is old, feeds off transition and comes from a program that knows how to showcase one guy.

Similar to Evan Mobley, Chet played in a system that was an equal opportunity motion system, with another big that clogged the paint, and he got the lower amount of touches. And Chet was the elite finisher and shot-blocker on his team, as the 4!

I literally don’t know how you could rate the other 4s higher than the one who did the most with the least opportunity and help. Chet is going to surprise a lot of people just like Mobley did.

Chet is still my #1B. Sharpe is 1A.

I'm not saying Keegan Murray is some super hidden gem, but he's not old. He just turned 22, and is a year younger than Saddiq. Not too old to fit with the current young core. Still, he's likely only in the mix if the lottery goes poorly for the Pistons.

[buzzkilloton]

Last report I saw was that Houstan didn’t have any agent either so he might go back to Michigan which honestly might not be a bad choice for him.

Wasn't Houston a projected top 10 pick entering the year?[/quote]

Yeah he was a projected to be late lotto. He was very underwhelming for Michigan. He was a very weak 5 star IMO. Clearly it was Duren making him look good in highschool as he got wide open shots all game.

[vic]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2022-nba-mock-draft-dukes-paolo-banchero-goes-no-1-with-iowas-keegan-murray-a-surprising-no-3-pick/

This mock actually lists a lot of the reasons I like Chet better than his top 3:

Banchero’s game was protected and enhanced by an ELITE ELITE shot blocker and finisher.

Jabari Smith’s game was protected and enhanced by an ELITE ELITE finisher and shot blocker.

Keegan Murray is old, feeds off transition and comes from a program that knows how to showcase one guy.

Similar to Evan Mobley, Chet played in a system that was an equal opportunity motion system, with another big that clogged the paint, and he got the lower amount of touches. And Chet was the elite finisher and shot-blocker on his team, as the 4!

I literally don’t know how you could rate the other 4s higher than the one who did the most with the least opportunity and help. Chet is going to surprise a lot of people just like Mobley did.

Chet is still my #1B. Sharpe is 1A.

I'm not saying Keegan Murray is some super hidden gem, but he's not old. He just turned 22, and is a year younger than Saddiq. Not too old to fit with the current young core. Still, he's likely only in the mix if the lottery goes poorly for the Pistons.

I agree. I like Keegan, but he looks more like a quality role player than someone to take top 10.

I’d actually prefer Tari Easons elite defense and tools to him.

[Invictus88]

Forget all about Chet. My prospect has to be Nikola Jovic. He's almost a carbon copy of the current MVP....

[vic]

I've settled on two options after trading Grant for a top 10 pick:

Option A: Team Mustang
Shaedon Sharpe & Tari Eason: makes our identity with Cade very balanced mixing Cades and Killians High IQ with the muscle and athletic explosiveness of Shaedon and Tari. Lots of transition and forced turnovers but a lot of shooting and balance too.

Option B: Team Escalade
Chet Holmgren & Dyson Daniels: makes our team super long and patient, doubles down on the High IQ and defensive dominance. This will end up being a super high IQ team with minimal mistakes. Could help mitigate Cade being turnover prone.

I want a team with no weak links defensively. Those are the best ways forward

[tmorgan]

I've settled on two options after trading Grant for a top 10 pick:

Option A: Team Mustang
Shaedon Sharpe & Tari Eason: makes our identity with Cade very balanced mixing Cades and Killians High IQ with the muscle and athletic explosiveness of Shaedon and Tari. Lots of transition and forced turnovers but a lot of shooting and balance too.

Option B: Team Escalade
Chet Holmgren & Dyson Daniels: makes our team super long and patient, doubles down on the High IQ and defensive dominance. This will end up being a super high IQ team with minimal mistakes. Could help mitigate Cade being turnover prone.

I want a team with no weak links defensively. Those are the best ways forward

Either of these works for me!

[mattyj]

I've settled on two options after trading Grant for a top 10 pick:

Option A: Team Mustang
Shaedon Sharpe & Tari Eason: makes our identity with Cade very balanced mixing Cades and Killians High IQ with the muscle and athletic explosiveness of Shaedon and Tari. Lots of transition and forced turnovers but a lot of shooting and balance too.

Option B: Team Escalade
Chet Holmgren & Dyson Daniels: makes our team super long and patient, doubles down on the High IQ and defensive dominance. This will end up being a super high IQ team with minimal mistakes. Could help mitigate Cade being turnover prone.

I want a team with no weak links defensively. Those are the best ways forward

Dyson is from my home town I've been watching him since he was like 14 ... I'd be stoked if we could snag a pick late lottery and grab him

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[Pharaoh]

I've settled on two options after trading Grant for a top 10 pick:

Option A: Team Mustang
Shaedon Sharpe & Tari Eason: makes our identity with Cade very balanced mixing Cades and Killians High IQ with the muscle and athletic explosiveness of Shaedon and Tari. Lots of transition and forced turnovers but a lot of shooting and balance too.

Option B: Team Escalade
Chet Holmgren & Dyson Daniels: makes our team super long and patient, doubles down on the High IQ and defensive dominance. This will end up being a super high IQ team with minimal mistakes. Could help mitigate Cade being turnover prone.

I want a team with no weak links defensively. Those are the best ways forward

Prefer Team Mustang.



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[Mr Peanut]

Thoughts on Jaden Hardy? Obviously not with our pick, but perhaps if we managed to acquire a pick in the 20s. He's a hometown kid and was highly rated coming into the G league season. He shot atrociously but maybe with the right coaching his potential could be unlocked.

[Pharaoh]

Thoughts on Jaden Hardy? Obviously not with our pick, but perhaps if we managed to acquire a pick in the 20s. He's a hometown kid and was highly rated coming into the G league season. He shot atrociously but maybe with the right coaching his potential could be unlocked.

How do you rate our outside shooting atm?

Think that's not a area of expertise for our staff unfortunately

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[buzzkilloton]

New Edwards draft article today. Sounds like were currently not high on Sharpe. That or Weaver could be keeping that close to his chest.

Ivey on the rise a bit. Makes since to me as Edwards brought up multiple times with Ivey its his upside. Some of the other prospects at the top are more high floor plays. We need stars which is why we hopefully end up with high grades on Sharpe.

I spoiler quoted some of the stuff if interested. He ran some spots out where we pick xxx thought it was somewhat interesting.


"The NBA’s 2022 NBA Draft Lottery will take place Tuesday, May 17, and the Pistons enter the annual event tied for the best odds of landing the No. 1 pick. If that outcome presents itself for Detroit, I’ve gotten the sense that Chet Holmgren is the favorite in the clubhouse among some in the Pistons front office, although others still need more convincing. It also appears that Auburn’s Jabari Smith is in play to go No. 1. After those two, Duke’s Paolo Banchero, Purdue’s Jaden Ivey and Iowa’s Keegan Murray vary in order, depending on who you talk to, and round out what I believe to be the top five on the Pistons’ big board."

Big board is-
1.Chet
2.Smith
3.Paolo
4.Ivey
5.Murray
6.Mathurin
7.I take it hes saying Sharpe would be 7

Spoiler:

With the No. 6 pick, I’ve got the Pistons selecting Iowa forward Keegan Murray. Not only is Murray arguably the best player available at this spot, but he can be a Jerami Grant replacement if Detroit elects to move the veteran forward this summer or doesn’t sign him to an extension. Murray, who’s 6-foot-8, averaged 23.5 points and 8.7 rebounds while shooting 55 percent from the field and 39 percent from 3 as a sophomore. He’s not invisible without the ball. He cuts well. He makes smart basketball plays. He may never be an All-Star, but I’m fairly confident he’ll be, at minimum, a good NBA player for a long time. He doesn’t have the highest ceiling of the names listed above, but I believe he has one of the highest floors.

Spoiler:

At No. 4, I’ve got the Pistons taking Purdue guard Jaden Ivey. If presented this scenario a few weeks ago, I would have taken Murray without hesitation. And while I still believe there’s a 50 percent chance Murray would be the pick over Ivey, I get the sense that not everyone in Detroit is sold on the Iowa product. To some, even though Ivey may possess a lower floor than Murray, the upside the explosive Boilermaker guard carries outweighs that. Ivey addresses the need for athleticism on Detroit’s roster, and he was a pretty good spot-up shooter in college. Ivey’s lack of playmaking for others is concerning, particularly for a roster that doesn’t have many natural playmakers, but maybe a little coaching can get him to show improvements in that facet of his game.

Spoiler:

Now, the moment you’ve been waiting for … I have Detroit selecting Arizona wing Bennedict Mathurin in this scenario. Obviously, this is the second-worst outcome available to the Pistons, who can’t drop lower than No. 7. However, Mathurin does have fans in Detroit’s front office and addresses two glaring weaknesses on the roster: perimeter athleticism and 3-point shooting. Multiple front office folks have told me that Mathurin is “the best wing” in the draft, and that was after it was clear Kentucky’s Shaedon Sharpe would be in the pool of players. Mathurin likely won’t ever be an All-Star, but I’m confident he’ll be a good NBA wing for many, many years if the shooting translates to the next level with no hiccups. Detroit needs to address the guard spot next to Cunningham, and though Mathurin doesn’t project to be an initiator of offense, he is an underrated playmaker for others and carries an efficient game.

[MotownMadness]

Wonder if there's any deal that could be made with Memphis and Grant? They got 22 and 29. I'd take either cause I want to give his roster spot to some new blood and not pay him.

Maybe Memphis could play him at the 3 and bring Brooks of the bench as a sixth man.

[buzzkilloton]

Wonder if there's any deal that could be made with Memphis and Grant? They got 22 and 29. I'd take either cause I want to give his roster spot to some new blood and not pay him.

Maybe Memphis could play him at the 3 and bring Brooks of the bench as a sixth man.

This is the kind of deal I'm hoping we can get done. Can grab a guy like Kessler or K.Brown to give us that defensive edge. A prospect who I love but I'm not sure on fit with Cade and his shooting(60%freethrow but 39% 3pt) is K.Chandler. Chandler is big time but undersized might make for more of a lead your bench unit type pg like a Tyus Jones or something.

Of course id love the Blazers to scam themselves and give up a top 10 for a rental but seems far fetched.

[theBigLip]

I’m still dreaming…
Win lottery. Get #1 pick
Trade down slightly, get extra mid lotto pick and still get Jabari Smith
Trade Grant to Portland and get their pick which is high enough to get Sharpe
With the extra mid lotto pick, get Jalen Duren

Is this too much to ask?

[buzzkilloton]

Watching the Celtics beat the Bucks just makes me think how nice adding Jabari would be. Hes a celtics style player athletic can switch and can shoot. I feel like the Celtics are a good roadmap for us with how they built the roster.

[Cowology]

Watching the Celtics beat the Bucks just makes me think how nice adding Jabari would be. Hes a celtics style player athletic can switch and can shoot. I feel like the Celtics are a good roadmap for us with how they built the roster.

There is a piece on ESPN right now about the Celts development, but the thing that really jumped out to me was their top 7 players are all plus defenders. If you stop and really think about it, that's kinda insane. No weakness to attack.

Granted the Bucks were missing Middleton (and that IS a big deal), but the Celts just held the defending champs to 81 pts and 37% shooting in game 7. And they executed well offensively. Jabari would look right at home on a team like Boston and that's not a bad franchise to try and emulate right now.

[Pharaoh]

I echo the "copy" Boston sentiment and said as much during the Brooklyn series.

Their D is next level and outside of Tatum offensively it really does seem like a equal opportunity system.

Tatum, Brown, Smart, Williams x2 & Horford...hard to dislike them even though historically I always will.

That said I can't wait for the next series - Miami and Boston should be full of hard fought tough games

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[DNice68]

Watching the Celtics beat the Bucks just makes me think how nice adding Jabari would be. Hes a celtics style player athletic can switch and can shoot. I feel like the Celtics are a good roadmap for us with how they built the roster.

All we would need would be a coach like Udoka, which we don’t have at all!

[The Moose]

there is definitely a guy in the draft this year who fits a similar pre-draft scouting report to someone like Tatum, but it isn't Jabari. Its the guy who went to the same school as Tatum and put up almost identical statistics across the board

Strengths: Tatum possesses one of the most NBA-ready skill sets in the draft, with some comfort scoring at all levels. He’s able to create space for himself and make difficult shots when necessary, a necessity for most elite scorers in the league. He has the size to in theory play both forward positions, and the length to be a passable defender with some added work. He’s quick enough to attack bigger defenders and big enough to post up smaller ones. Tatum is also a solid rebounder. He enters the league with a solid offensive repertoire and has the potential to lead a team in scoring one day.

Weaknesses: Although Tatum’s skill set is impressive, he’s not an athlete of the highest tier, which makes it tougher to draw a direct through-line to NBA success. Tatum can fall in love with his mid-range shot at times and occasionally will take a tough look when he doesn’t need to. He’s developing as a passer but isn’t a playmaker with the ball in his hands, and if he doesn’t work on defense, it’s hard to see how he’ll impact the game when he isn’t shooting the ball. Tatum will have to expand his game or risk being branded a one-dimensional scoring specialist.

Although his sometimes-inefficient style (lifetime 49% from two and 30% from three) and old man game' aren't for everyone, the fact that Tatum has the frame and reach to play the four (where he played almost exclusively at Duke) for long stretches in today's NBA eases potential concerns about his offensive fit as a three. He doesn't have the quickest release on his jumper, making the added time he'll have with fours closing out to him that much more valuable. Tatum converted 1.22 points per possessions on 37 unguarded' catch and shoot attempts, and only 0.85 PPP on 41 attempts when guarded', evidence that (like most players) he's better with time and space. From there, Tatum has the fluidity to attack closeouts in space, although he's not overly explosive, and has a tendency to settle for low percentage pull ups - 47th percentile off the dribble and only 10-of-35 on jumpers inside of 17 feet. Tatum's swing skill is his 3-point shooting, an area where he showed promise throughout the year - namely a 6-of-7 game versus Virginia that featured two deep hang dribble pull-ups that he hadn't shown otherwise during the season. If he's able to step out and turn into a reliable 3-point threat, and a more instinctual ball-mover, he has the chance to become much more versatile in his already polished scoring attack.


More smooth than explosive and not overly advanced with his handle, Tatum figures to have an adjustment while at the three in terms of breaking down NBA level wing defenders and generating high percentage looks for himself or his teammates. He's a great isolation player (22.8% of his offense, 70th percentile), but he's still very green in his pick and roll play (4.4% of his offense, 0.682 PPP), as he's not going to generate a ton of offense out of ball screens at this stage of his career.

On the other side of the ball, Tatum's defensive intensity and progression physically will go a long way in determining how many minutes he is actually be able to play at the four. With a picturesque frame up top (but narrow in his lower body), an 8'10.5 standing reach and impressive instincts to boot, Tatum has the ability to rebound his position and at least provide some resistance as an interior defender, while moving his feet on the perimeter, even versus switches. An adequate wing defender when fully engaged, Tatum's intensity has to be at full throttle to bring enough to the table on the glass and on the interior. Tatum is the most polished forward prospect of the three, and likely has the highest floor, as there's infinite value in a 6'8 combo forward with a great frame, solid length, an advanced isolation package, and a developing outside game. Tatum may not be the athlete that Josh Jackson, is or the versatile defender that Jonathan Isaac is, but at the very least, he projects as a polished scorer and longtime NBA starter with All-Star upside, if his perimeter game continues to evolve. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jayson-Tatum-7249/ ©DraftExpress

[buzzkilloton]

there is definitely a guy in the draft this year who fits a similar pre-draft scouting report to someone like Tatum, but it isn't Jabari. Its the guy who went to the same school as Tatum and put up almost identical statistics across the board

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jayson-Tatum-7249/ ©DraftExpress

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You dont mean Paolo do you? I dont think hes anything like Tatum. Paolo is like a Webber,Pistons Blake, or bigger Randle type player.

When I said celtics type I didnt mean he is just like Tatum or anything, More versatile long defender that can switch. I feel like those are the types of guys that they like.