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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2421 » by The Moose » Mon May 16, 2022 5:00 am

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The Moose wrote:there is definitely a guy in the draft this year who fits a similar pre-draft scouting report to someone like Tatum, but it isn't Jabari. Its the guy who went to the same school as Tatum and put up almost identical statistics across the board

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You dont mean Paolo do you? I dont think hes anything like Tatum. Paolo is like a Webber,Pistons Blake, or bigger Randle type player.

When I said celtics type I didnt mean he is just like Tatum or anything, More versatile long defender that can switch. I feel like those are the types of guys that they like.


yea its Paolo

I think he's being incorrectly categorised a bit. I know those 3 are his most common comparisons but he is so far ahead of them as a perimeter player at this age that I just don't think they are the best comps. I think those comps are based a lot more on body type. As a jumpshooter and isolation player in the half court Paolo has far more in common with Tatum than he did NCAA Blake or Webber. And way further ahead as playmaker/passer than any of them. I don't think he's as good as Tatum as a prospect mainly because Tatum had better shooting indicators, but I don't think the general archetype is all that far off.

I think we should be viewing Paolo through the lens of a jumbo wing offensively. As long as the 3pt shooting comes along and he's a neutral defender, he's going to be a monster. I think its going to be fairly clear a few weeks into their rookie seasons

And yea sorry, it wasn't really a direct response to your post, I just wanted to talk about Paolo :lol:
I agree that Jabari would fit defensively on the Celtics, not sure about on offense. They tend have 5 guys on the court who can all create off the dribble, Grant Williams is probably the closest shot profile wise
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2422 » by The Moose » Mon May 16, 2022 5:27 am

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speaking of guys who would fit the celtics though

this has Sochan's name written all over it
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2423 » by The Moose » Mon May 16, 2022 5:33 am

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Eason and Dyson are my favourite prospects outside the top 3
Along with Sharpe they round out my top 6
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2424 » by buzzkilloton » Mon May 16, 2022 5:52 am

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buzzkilloton wrote:
The Moose wrote:there is definitely a guy in the draft this year who fits a similar pre-draft scouting report to someone like Tatum, but it isn't Jabari. Its the guy who went to the same school as Tatum and put up almost identical statistics across the board

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jayson-Tatum-7249/ ©DraftExpress


You dont mean Paolo do you? I dont think hes anything like Tatum. Paolo is like a Webber,Pistons Blake, or bigger Randle type player.

When I said celtics type I didnt mean he is just like Tatum or anything, More versatile long defender that can switch. I feel like those are the types of guys that they like.


yea its Paolo

I think he's being incorrectly categorised a bit. I know those 3 are his most common comparisons but he is so far ahead of them as a perimeter player at this age that I just don't think they are the best comps. I think those comps are based a lot more on body type. As a jumpshooter and isolation player in the half court Paolo has far more in common with Tatum than he did NCAA Blake or Webber. And way further ahead as playmaker/passer than any of them. I don't think he's as good as Tatum as a prospect mainly because Tatum had better shooting indicators, but I don't think the general archetype is all that far off.

I think we should be viewing Paolo through the lens of a jumbo wing offensively. As long as the 3pt shooting comes along and he's a neutral defender, he's going to be a monster. I think its going to be fairly clear a few weeks into their rookie seasons

And yea sorry, it wasn't really a direct response to your post, I just wanted to talk about Paolo :lol:
I agree that Jabari would fit defensively on the Celtics, not sure about on offense. They tend have 5 guys on the court who can all create off the dribble, Grant Williams is probably the closest shot profile wise



I dont compare him to NCAA Blake its the Pistons version i do. NCAA Blake was a much better athlete and had more burst. He has that crafty Pistons Blake game where he changed his game after losing some stuff. When you say jumbo wing thats basically what I think of with guys like Randle and Pistons Blake.

I doubt hes a neutral defender even. Hes got a high IQ hes just limited physically a bit on that end. His offense should make up for it though. Agree with you the 3pter is going to be a big.

I dont think a pistons Blake,Webber, or bigger Randle are negatives anyways thats a great pick in the top 3 of any draft. We can use another big time offensive player and he Paolo can be that. I think if we take him we really want to focus on getting some big athletic defenders that can shoot around those two.

I wont be surprised one bit if we look back right away and are all like Paolo was clearly the 1 guy everyone should of known. I've been putting him under the Chet/Smith tier because of the defense and still do but I still think hes a nice prospect. I'd love to come out of the draft with him you wont hear me complaining even if Weaver decides thats his 1 pick.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2425 » by The Moose » Mon May 16, 2022 6:08 am

buzzkilloton wrote:
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buzzkilloton wrote:
You dont mean Paolo do you? I dont think hes anything like Tatum. Paolo is like a Webber,Pistons Blake, or bigger Randle type player.

When I said celtics type I didnt mean he is just like Tatum or anything, More versatile long defender that can switch. I feel like those are the types of guys that they like.


yea its Paolo

I think he's being incorrectly categorised a bit. I know those 3 are his most common comparisons but he is so far ahead of them as a perimeter player at this age that I just don't think they are the best comps. I think those comps are based a lot more on body type. As a jumpshooter and isolation player in the half court Paolo has far more in common with Tatum than he did NCAA Blake or Webber. And way further ahead as playmaker/passer than any of them. I don't think he's as good as Tatum as a prospect mainly because Tatum had better shooting indicators, but I don't think the general archetype is all that far off.

I think we should be viewing Paolo through the lens of a jumbo wing offensively. As long as the 3pt shooting comes along and he's a neutral defender, he's going to be a monster. I think its going to be fairly clear a few weeks into their rookie seasons

And yea sorry, it wasn't really a direct response to your post, I just wanted to talk about Paolo :lol:
I agree that Jabari would fit defensively on the Celtics, not sure about on offense. They tend have 5 guys on the court who can all create off the dribble, Grant Williams is probably the closest shot profile wise



I dont compare him to NCAA Blake its the Pistons version i do. NCAA Blake was a much better athlete and had more burst. He has that crafty Pistons Blake game where he changed his game after losing some stuff. When you say jumbo wing thats basically what I think of with guys like Randle and Pistons Blake.

I doubt hes a neutral defender even. Hes got a high IQ hes just limited physically a bit on that end. His offense should make up for it though. Agree with you the 3pter is going to be a big.

I dont think a pistons Blake,Webber, or bigger Randle are negatives anyways thats a great pick in the top 3 of any draft. We can use another big time offensive player and he Paolo can be that. I think if we take him we really want to focus on getting some big athletic defenders that can shoot around those two.

I wont be surprised one bit if we look back right away and are all like Paolo was clearly the 1 guy everyone should of known. I've been putting him under the Chet/Smith tier because of the defense and still do but I still think hes a nice prospect. I'd love to come out of the draft with him you wont hear me complaining even if Weaver decides thats his 1 pick.


Yeah, I'm hoping for a top 3 pick at the lottery, I'll be fine with any of them. Only guy I'm not much of a fan of around that range is Ivey.

Maybe I'm completely wrong about Ivey, and if we end up taking him, I'll be hoping so
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2426 » by Pharaoh » Mon May 16, 2022 6:43 am

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Eason and Dyson are my favourite prospects outside the top 3
Along with Sharpe they round out my top 6
So your top 6 is:

Chet, Jabari, Paolo
Sharpe, Eason, Daniels

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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2427 » by tmorgan » Mon May 16, 2022 7:17 am

It’s a good top 6. I’ll be disappointed if all we come out with is Eason or Daniels, but I truly like them both. It just means we had no lotto luck and couldn’t move Jerami for a good pick. Certainly possible.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2428 » by The Moose » Mon May 16, 2022 7:40 am

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Eason and Dyson are my favourite prospects outside the top 3
Along with Sharpe they round out my top 6
So your top 6 is:

Chet, Jabari, Paolo
Sharpe, Eason, Daniels

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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2429 » by Pharaoh » Mon May 16, 2022 10:28 am

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Pharaoh wrote:
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Eason and Dyson are my favourite prospects outside the top 3
Along with Sharpe they round out my top 6
So your top 6 is:

Chet, Jabari, Paolo
Sharpe, Eason, Daniels

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yep
I'd put the tiers as:

Chet, Jabari, Paolo

Sharpe

Ivey, Murray, Eason, Daniels and Mathurin

Think Mathurin is overlooked for what he potentially could bring to the team as shooter and athlete on the wing



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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2430 » by The Moose » Mon May 16, 2022 12:38 pm

Pharaoh wrote:
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Pharaoh wrote:So your top 6 is:

Chet, Jabari, Paolo
Sharpe, Eason, Daniels

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yep
I'd put the tiers as:

Chet, Jabari, Paolo

Sharpe

Ivey, Murray, Eason, Daniels and Mathurin

Think Mathurin is overlooked for what he potentially could bring to the team as shooter and athlete on the wing



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I would tier it in a similar way, just ordered differently and I would have Sochan in the 3rd tier too
I think Ivey/Murray/Mathurin are probably higher on the Pistons board than Eason and Daniels though

We have a 93% at a top 6 pick, and from what ive read from Pistons sources it seems like the Pistons top 6 would be Chet/Paolo/Jabari/Ivey/Murray/Sharpe in some order, so its very likely we will be picking one of these guys.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2431 » by aad » Mon May 16, 2022 3:40 pm

I don’t understand all this sharpe hype no one has even seen him play I’m not taking him top five maybe mid lottery
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2432 » by Jsindto » Mon May 16, 2022 4:36 pm

aad wrote:I don’t understand all this sharpe hype no one has even seen him play I’m not taking him top five maybe mid lottery

For me personally, it's because if you're drafting at the top of the 1st, you're goal is to get a "2nd best player on a championship team" caliber player. Especially when your team is in Detroit and building through the draft is the #1 team building method by far.

Now some people have him ahead of Ivey, and I get the intrigue, but that's too far for me personally. But depending on how your workout/meeting goes with him, I wouldn't have an issue going with him at #5 over Murray. Simply because I personally view Murray's ceiling as a #3 on a championship caliber team. Which obviously would still be very important and great to have, but if we think this is at least possibly the last time the Pistons draft top 5 with Cade, I'd go for Sharpe over Murray. Unless of course he has an awful workout/meeting. Then you almost need to go with Murray if you're Troy Weaver.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2433 » by Drwho17 » Mon May 16, 2022 5:09 pm

aad wrote:I don’t understand all this sharpe hype no one has even seen him play I’m not taking him top five maybe mid lottery

He was the #1 ranked prospect for 2022, #3 in 2021 after he reclassified and has a 50" vert with an advanced perimiter game, not hard to see why people are projecting him into the top 5. Only Chet/Paulo were ahead of him, many times these rankings hold up as to where a player is drafted.

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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2434 » by zeebneeb » Mon May 16, 2022 5:25 pm

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Small window of time left.

My picks as of today;***

1.Chet-love his ability to defend around the rim, his shooting, his ball handling, his passing. Lob threat as well, as well as a potentially great put-back type of player. Will be a great fit with Cade.

2.)Smith-elite shooter, and good shot blocker, rim running lob threat as well. Good fit with Cade.

3.)Banchero-he could be more then we all think. Dynamic offensively, immense lob threat. Imagine him, and Bagley on the floor at the same time catching lobs from Cade/Hayes Would be a sight to behold. Insane fit with Cade.

4.Sharpe-Sold on the potential. Could be a massive bust, but could also be amazing given his physical gifts, and his abilities. Could end up being the best back-court in the league for over a decade.

5.Mathurin-I'm higher on this kid more then most, but his size, shooting, and defense make him an ideal fit next to Cade. Another player who could be part of the best, or top 3 backcourts for a decade+

6.Murray-Ho-hum pick for me, but Weaver reportedly likes him, so I'll defer.

7.Ivey-My least favorite of all possible selections. Doesn't seem he would fit very well next to Cade, but in terms of BPA I get it.





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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2435 » by Jsindto » Mon May 16, 2022 5:30 pm

zeebneeb wrote:Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Small window of time left.

My picks as of today;***

1.Chet-love his ability to defend around the rim, his shooting, his ball handling, his passing. Lob threat as well, as well as a potentially great put-back type of player. Will be a great fit with Cade.

2.)Smith-elite shooter, and good shot blocker, rim running lob threat as well. Good fit with Cade.

3.)Banchero-he could be more then we all think. Dynamic offensively, immense lob threat. Imagine him, and Bagley on the floor at the same time catching lobs from Cade/Hayes Would be a sight to behold. Insane fit with Cade.

4.Sharpe-Sold on the potential. Could be a massive bust, but could also be amazing given his physical gifts, and his abilities. Could end up being the best back-court in the league for over a decade.

5.Mathurin-I'm higher on this kid more then most, but his size, shooting, and defense make him an ideal fit next to Cade. Another player who could be part of the best, or top 3 backcourts for a decade+

6.Murray-Ho-hum pick for me, but Weaver reportedly likes him, so I'll defer.

7.Ivey-My least favorite of all possible selections. Doesn't seem he would fit very well next to Cade, but in terms of BPA I get it.





***-subject to change every 15 seconds except for #1 pick.

I've warmed up to Paolo, but one thing that won't be happening unless something changes is him and Bagley being able to play together for any meaningful minutes. Bagley is a big minus defensively and until proven otherwise, Paolo will probably come into the league as a minus defensively and then hopefully work his way to being a neutral defender. But next year if you have those two as your 4/5 defensively, you'll get absolutely torched.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2436 » by buzzkilloton » Mon May 16, 2022 9:16 pm

Alot of people bearish on Ivey. Seems like the majority of piston boards i read and nba twitter is on the bear side of him. I'm still feeling fairly bullish and hes firmly in 5 potential all star players i see in the draft.

I would love to see the conversation if we landed say pick 3 and heard he was looking like the guy we wanted and then selected him. I think selecting Ivey before pick 4 or us taking Chet like pick 1 are going to lead to the best discussions. Chets so damn polarizing even though hes been considered that high all year it would be some fun debates.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2437 » by Homelander87 » Mon May 16, 2022 9:48 pm

I continue to say that I want Paolo. He’s the perfect stretch 4 in todays NBA
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2438 » by zeebneeb » Mon May 16, 2022 10:22 pm

Homelander87 wrote:I continue to say that I want Paolo. He’s the perfect stretch 4 in todays NBA
I would argue that Jabari Smith is the perfect stretch 4 in today's game. Blocks shots, rebounds, and shoots the hell out of the ball.

Banchero doesn't have the best of outside shots.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2439 » by buzzkilloton » Mon May 16, 2022 11:00 pm

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2022/5/16/23022652/nba-draft-detroit-pistons-paolo-banchero-every-shot-assist-turnover-steal-and-rebound

DBB is doing prospect articles for some of the top guys. The author is very bull on Paolo.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#2440 » by Pharaoh » Tue May 17, 2022 12:59 am

buzzkilloton wrote:https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2022/5/16/23022652/nba-draft-detroit-pistons-paolo-banchero-every-shot-assist-turnover-steal-and-rebound

DBB is doing prospect articles for some of the top guys. The author is very bull on Paolo.
Decent article and it did state the areas of concern.

All 3 guys at the top have issues and none of us know how they're wired mentally and if they'll really put the work in

That's up to our FO to work out.

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