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Post#261 » by Blkbrd671 » Fri May 22, 2015 3:50 am

DBC10 wrote:^Yep.

The guy has broke records for most 3s two years in a row and won a 3pt contest in what was one of the more stacked ones in a long time. Not to mention every defense is dialed in solely on him or his splash bro. It's insane.

There's never been a player like him.


the question being poised is the "better 3 point shooter". While curry certainly creates more than Korver and makes harder shots, does that make him a better 3 point shooter. i think if we are discussing "better", Stats would a better determining factor and i would argue the distance behind the 3. Both are elite 3 point shooters. Korver shot 49.2% from the field and i believe had a 10 game streak of hitting 57% of his 3's. That's absolutely ridiculous. Curry shot 45% for the season.

I really don't see how anyone can definitively win that argument
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Post#262 » by kurtis48239 » Fri May 22, 2015 4:02 am

Ive seen green set a few screens tonight for steph.
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Post#263 » by joedumars1 » Fri May 22, 2015 4:08 am

kurtis48239 wrote:Ive seen green set a few screens tonight for steph.

With Steph having the ball in his hand tho rite? Kinda like a PnR
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Post#264 » by DBC10 » Fri May 22, 2015 11:50 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
DBC10 wrote:^Yep.

The guy has broke records for most 3s two years in a row and won a 3pt contest in what was one of the more stacked ones in a long time. Not to mention every defense is dialed in solely on him or his splash bro. It's insane.

There's never been a player like him.


the question being poised is the "better 3 point shooter". While curry certainly creates more than Korver and makes harder shots, does that make him a better 3 point shooter. i think if we are discussing "better", Stats would a better determining factor and i would argue the distance behind the 3. Both are elite 3 point shooters. Korver shot 49.2% from the field and i believe had a 10 game streak of hitting 57% of his 3's. That's absolutely ridiculous. Curry shot 45% for the season.

I really don't see how anyone can definitively win that argument


Technically, sure Korver is better from a raw statistic standpoint. Curry primarily creates for himself, that anyone can agree with, the fact that he still shoots 45% at the end of the day from this while having defenses key in on him, is pure insanity. If he primarily spotted up like Korver did, this would probably translate to similar percentages as Kyle if not better.

Simply put, they're both extreme anomalies in the history of the NBA. I'm just enjoying the ride haha.
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Post#265 » by Blkbrd671 » Fri May 22, 2015 12:43 pm

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DBC10 wrote:^Yep.

The guy has broke records for most 3s two years in a row and won a 3pt contest in what was one of the more stacked ones in a long time. Not to mention every defense is dialed in solely on him or his splash bro. It's insane.

There's never been a player like him.


the question being poised is the "better 3 point shooter". While curry certainly creates more than Korver and makes harder shots, does that make him a better 3 point shooter. i think if we are discussing "better", Stats would a better determining factor and i would argue the distance behind the 3. Both are elite 3 point shooters. Korver shot 49.2% from the field and i believe had a 10 game streak of hitting 57% of his 3's. That's absolutely ridiculous. Curry shot 45% for the season.

I really don't see how anyone can definitively win that argument


Technically, sure Korver is better from a raw statistic standpoint. Curry primarily creates for himself, that anyone can agree with, the fact that he still shoots 45% at the end of the day from this while having defenses key in on him, is pure insanity. If he primarily spotted up like Korver did, this would probably translate to similar percentages as Kyle if not better.

Simply put, they're both extreme anomalies in the history of the NBA. I'm just enjoying the ride haha.


i agree, i'd just like to add, Korver does alot more than just spot up, Teams literally have to game plan for him, or he can literally win the game for you. S Grantland i believe did article on him that was a good read. He's a impact player

Curry is a superstar
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Post#266 » by kurtis48239 » Sat May 23, 2015 1:11 am

joedumars1 wrote:
kurtis48239 wrote:Ive seen green set a few screens tonight for steph.

With Steph having the ball in his hand tho rite? Kinda like a PnR

yea.
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Post#267 » by DBC10 » Sat May 23, 2015 2:10 am

Cavs out jumpshooting the Hawks.
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Post#268 » by sc8581 » Sat May 23, 2015 3:36 am

Hope nobody is surprised that the Cavs are better without Love and Kyrie, two selfish one way players.
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Post#269 » by DBC10 » Sat May 23, 2015 1:45 pm

I think Jeff should take the job for the Pelicans. He could turn Anthony Davis into a uber-star, if he's already not one.

Plus, I think the league is in a better place if the Van Gundy bros are both coaching.
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Post#270 » by DBC10 » Sun May 24, 2015 2:11 am

This is looking like a sweep for the contenders, Golden State.

Elite defense, elite shooting. Also Curry set the NBA playoff record for most 3s, the guy is the definition of insanity.

Crazy to think this could only be the beginning too, with so many kids growing up and wanting to shoot like Curry and growing up loving the 3 point line. League is in good hands.
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Post#271 » by ElectricMayhem » Sun May 24, 2015 3:18 am

The Wiretap saying Chicago is trying to wait until all coaching vacancies are filled before firing Thibodeau (**** move if true) is giving me wild fantasies about Gores swooping in and offering him a huge 1 year contract as an assistant. Thibs has already been an assistant under one Van Gundy...

Yes, I know the Lakers will drop Byron Scott the second Thibs hits the open market, but let a man dream.
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Post#272 » by kurtis48239 » Sun May 24, 2015 9:29 am

Wow,just when you think the warriors couldnt suprise you,they go and have a game like tonight.
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Post#273 » by sc8581 » Sun May 24, 2015 9:37 am

kurtis48239 wrote:Wow,just when you think the warriors couldnt suprise you,they go and have a game like tonight.


What about the game surprised you? Their defense has been sick all throughout the playoffs and Houston doesn't have enough offensive threats. I'm trying to figure out why Curry still played 35 minutes or so, he should have been sitting the whole 4th and then some.
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Post#274 » by Pharaoh » Sun May 24, 2015 10:46 am

Agree with SC.

Warriors D their unsung hero all season. Curry needs to rest as much as they can afford it.

Looking like a championship for the Warriors! 3 years ago nobody thought about that!
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Post#275 » by kurtis48239 » Sun May 24, 2015 9:32 pm

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kurtis48239 wrote:Wow,just when you think the warriors couldnt suprise you,they go and have a game like tonight.


What about the game surprised you? Their defense has been sick all throughout the playoffs and Houston doesn't have enough offensive threats. I'm trying to figure out why Curry still played 35 minutes or so, he should have been sitting the whole 4th and then some.

Um,they blew out the rockets in a playoff series.Just wondering,do you still believe all the stuff you were saying early in the playoffs series about curry and the team as a whole?
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Post#276 » by sc8581 » Mon May 25, 2015 12:38 am

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kurtis48239 wrote:Wow,just when you think the warriors couldnt suprise you,they go and have a game like tonight.


What about the game surprised you? Their defense has been sick all throughout the playoffs and Houston doesn't have enough offensive threats. I'm trying to figure out why Curry still played 35 minutes or so, he should have been sitting the whole 4th and then some.

Um,they blew out the rockets in a playoff series.Just wondering,do you still believe all the stuff you were saying early in the playoffs series about curry and the team as a whole?


I still don't think Curry makes his teammates better, they are winning with defense in basically all of the games in these last two series, not offense. Memphis was a good matchup for them, especially once Tony Allen went down. The Warriors strengths are perimeter scoring and their interior defense, Gasol and Randolph couldn't score efficiently against Green and Bogut so once Allen went down it was their series to lose. Houston is also a good matchup for them since they rely so heavily on Howard and Harden, the Rockets just don't have enough guys that can create, Beverly would be giving Curry fits right now if he were healthy but **** happens. Early on in the playoffs GS was standing around launching jumpers but they've had nice ball movement starting in game 4 against the Grizz. They also remembered what a pump fake was and that opened up a lot of lanes for them but their offense still goes stale if Curry isn't hitting on his 11 3PA per game.
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Post#277 » by kurtis48239 » Mon May 25, 2015 1:26 am

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What about the game surprised you? Their defense has been sick all throughout the playoffs and Houston doesn't have enough offensive threats. I'm trying to figure out why Curry still played 35 minutes or so, he should have been sitting the whole 4th and then some.

Um,they blew out the rockets in a playoff series.Just wondering,do you still believe all the stuff you were saying early in the playoffs series about curry and the team as a whole?


I still don't think Curry makes his teammates better, they are winning with defense in basically all of the games in these last two series, not offense. Memphis was a good matchup for them, especially once Tony Allen went down. The Warriors strengths are perimeter scoring and their interior defense, Gasol and Randolph couldn't score efficiently against Green and Bogut so once Allen went down it was their series to lose. Houston is also a good matchup for them since they rely so heavily on Howard and Harden, the Rockets just don't have enough guys that can create, Beverly would be giving Curry fits right now if he were healthy but **** happens. Early on in the playoffs GS was standing around launching jumpers but they've had nice ball movement starting in game 4 against the Grizz. They also remembered what a pump fake was and that opened up a lot of lanes for them but their offense still goes stale if Curry isn't hitting on his 11 3PA per game.

Curry has been on fire vs mem/houston,there defense is good,but there offense is equaly as good,dont understand how you cant give them credit on that end.They are basicly steam rolling their way to the finals.
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Post#278 » by DBC10 » Mon May 25, 2015 1:30 am

Golden State is like a minus 12 or so when Curry is off the floor. And whenever he's off the floor, the other team starts chucking and make shots that allows them to come back. This is why Curry doesn't sit as much anymore. They also drop from a steep 113 to 100 in offensive rating, so clearly the team needs him so much for his shot creating opportunity whenever he initiates a Pick N Roll. Teams have to choose between blitz/trap or drop down to cover the rolling/pop man but if they drop down, it's enough space for a Steph 3. You can't defend against this team.

He needs to stay in and last time they let go of the gas, they had that huge Rockets come back where GS only won by 1. They can't afford that anymore. You need to play your superstar, superstar minutes to dominate, and GS easily did with winning resoundingly with Pelicans, and great against Memphis and looking like a sweep against Houston. They easily were a lock for the Finals.
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Post#279 » by sc8581 » Mon May 25, 2015 1:43 am

DBC10 wrote:Golden State is like a minus 12-16 or so when Curry is off the floor. And whenever he's off the floor, the other team starts chucking and make shots that allows them to come back. This is why Curry doesn't sit as much anymore.

He needs to stay in and last time they let go of the gas, they had that huge Rockets come back where GS only won by 1. They can't afford that anymore. You need to play your superstar, superstar minutes to dominate, and GS easily did with winning resoundingly with Pelicans, and great against Memphis and looking like a sweep against Houston. They easily were a lock for the Finals.


They won 4 very close games against the Pelicans and Memphis beat them up early in the series.
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Post#280 » by DBC10 » Mon May 25, 2015 1:51 am

sc8581 wrote:
DBC10 wrote:Golden State is like a minus 12-16 or so when Curry is off the floor. And whenever he's off the floor, the other team starts chucking and make shots that allows them to come back. This is why Curry doesn't sit as much anymore.

He needs to stay in and last time they let go of the gas, they had that huge Rockets come back where GS only won by 1. They can't afford that anymore. You need to play your superstar, superstar minutes to dominate, and GS easily did with winning resoundingly with Pelicans, and great against Memphis and looking like a sweep against Houston. They easily were a lock for the Finals.


They won 4 very close games against the Pelicans and Memphis beat them up early in the series.


Pelicans had Anthony Davis going off, they had no answer for that. Statistically this season, they didn't do all that great against the Pellies so they were going to have problems regardless, a sweep is still a sweep. Same overall with Memphis, that team isn't built to be swept.

After Memphis took 2 games, they woke up, nothing to worry about. It was still a resounding victory to that series overall. 1 sweep and 1 great comeback to put them away. We haven't seen a team this good statistically (Both offense/defense) since the Jordan Bulls of 96.

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