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Piston Pete wrote:Now, do we want Weaver making this pick for us?
He seemingly hit on Bey and Stewart.
Hayes is possibly a big miss (too small of a sample size for any of us to know)
How confident is everyone in Weaver being able to make the right choice for us?
Piston Pete wrote:Now, do we want Weaver making this pick for us?
He seemingly hit on Bey and Stewart.
Hayes is possibly a big miss (too small of a sample size for any of us to know)
How confident is everyone in Weaver being able to make the right choice for us?
The Moose wrote:Reminds me of Anthony Davis a bit, albeit with a worse frame.
I still think he might end up going 1st pick
MotownMadness wrote:I want to see Green play bad. Gotta a feeling this is gonna be a 3 man draft in tier 1 between Cade, Mobley and Green with Suggs and Kuminga in tier 1B.
Since the ghost of GMs somehow matters what happens today, I'd rather look at the fact that Jack McCloskey scouted great to help me feel good about us getting the draft right.thesack12 wrote:MotownMadness wrote:I want to see Green play bad. Gotta a feeling this is gonna be a 3 man draft in tier 1 between Cade, Mobley and Green with Suggs and Kuminga in tier 1B.
In a draft without a clear cut #1, a case could be made that you would almost rather have #2 or even 3, especially for a franchise that hasn't exactly scouted all that great the last 15 years or so.
However, most of that case would be built upon potential hindsight data down the road, i.e. Oden over Durant, Doncic over Ayton/Bagley, etc. Basically, fear of taking the wrong guy.
thesack12 wrote:MotownMadness wrote:I want to see Green play bad. Gotta a feeling this is gonna be a 3 man draft in tier 1 between Cade, Mobley and Green with Suggs and Kuminga in tier 1B.
In a draft without a clear cut #1, a case could be made that you would almost rather have #2 or even 3, especially for a franchise that hasn't exactly scouted all that great the last 15 years or so.
However, most of that case would be built upon potential hindsight data down the road, i.e. Oden over Durant, Doncic over Ayton/Bagley, etc. Basically, fear of taking the wrong guy.
DetroitSho wrote:Since the ghost of GMs somehow matters what happens today, I'd rather look at the fact that Jack McCloskey scouted great to help me feel good about us getting the draft right.thesack12 wrote:MotownMadness wrote:I want to see Green play bad. Gotta a feeling this is gonna be a 3 man draft in tier 1 between Cade, Mobley and Green with Suggs and Kuminga in tier 1B.
In a draft without a clear cut #1, a case could be made that you would almost rather have #2 or even 3, especially for a franchise that hasn't exactly scouted all that great the last 15 years or so.
However, most of that case would be built upon potential hindsight data down the road, i.e. Oden over Durant, Doncic over Ayton/Bagley, etc. Basically, fear of taking the wrong guy.
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"15 years or so" spans across 2 owners, like 3 or 4 GMs if you count Stefanski, and none of it has anything to do with Weaver. I don't feel like looking it up but off the top of my head I only know of 4 top-3 picks the Pistons have had, Bob Lanier, Isiah Thomas, Grant Hill and Darko. I don't understand the logic of wanting a lesser pick or why it would be "so Pistons" to screw up a top 3 pick.thesack12 wrote:DetroitSho wrote:Since the ghost of GMs somehow matters what happens today, I'd rather look at the fact that Jack McCloskey scouted great to help me feel good about us getting the draft right.thesack12 wrote:
In a draft without a clear cut #1, a case could be made that you would almost rather have #2 or even 3, especially for a franchise that hasn't exactly scouted all that great the last 15 years or so.
However, most of that case would be built upon potential hindsight data down the road, i.e. Oden over Durant, Doncic over Ayton/Bagley, etc. Basically, fear of taking the wrong guy.
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It all starts at the top. This franchise has been poorly ran and poorly performing since Bill Davidson died. Gores' tenure has done nothing but disappoint and is now under his 4th different GM.
Now does that mean that the Pistons will always be disappointing under Gores, no of course it doesn't. However, the track record is not great.
DetroitSho wrote:"15 years or so" spans across 2 owners, like 3 or 4 GMs if you count Stefanski, and none of it has anything to do with Weaver. I don't feel like looking it up but off the top of my head I only know of 4 top-3 picks the Pistons have had, Bob Lanier, Isiah Thomas, Grant Hill and Darko. I don't understand the logic of wanting a lesser pick or why it would be "so Pistons" to screw up a top 3 pick.thesack12 wrote:DetroitSho wrote:Since the ghost of GMs somehow matters what happens today, I'd rather look at the fact that Jack McCloskey scouted great to help me feel good about us getting the draft right.
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It all starts at the top. This franchise has been poorly ran and poorly performing since Bill Davidson died. Gores' tenure has done nothing but disappoint and is now under his 4th different GM.
Now does that mean that the Pistons will always be disappointing under Gores, no of course it doesn't. However, the track record is not great.
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vic wrote:
Evanem (just coined his Piston nickname) reminds me more of a mix between Bill Russell and Chris Bosh. He seems real cerebral and defensive minded but at the same time not afraid to shoot.
Not an "entertaining" pick like one of the small electrifying guards - but the type of pick that could bring championships within a decade.
Can't be disappointed of your expectations are set at worst case scenario.DetroitSho wrote:Dude why tf would anybody look at a team that's RACING to a 15 win season and only expect a draft pick I the 5 to 9 range? Y'all gotta cut it out with the "Pistons always get screwed in the lottery" narrative.zeebneeb wrote:You guys have to careful not to get your hopes up to high for this draft in terms of selection number. I expect the Pistons pick to be as high as 5, and as low as 9 this year.
Think in that range, and you won't be as bitter when the Pistons get a pick lower then the odds predict as that is exactly what is going to happen.
The only chance the Pistons have to land the #5 pick is if they have the worst record. This is why making sure they have the worst record is paramount this year. Top 5 is good this year.
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DBC10 wrote:vic wrote:
Evanem (just coined his Piston nickname) reminds me more of a mix between Bill Russell and Chris Bosh. He seems real cerebral and defensive minded but at the same time not afraid to shoot.
Not an "entertaining" pick like one of the small electrifying guards - but the type of pick that could bring championships within a decade.
He definitely gives off Bosh vibes than Davis. Which again, isn't a bad pick, but I'd still rather go with a guard, in which Cade is the clear cut #1 for me
The Moose wrote:DBC10 wrote:vic wrote:
Evanem (just coined his Piston nickname) reminds me more of a mix between Bill Russell and Chris Bosh. He seems real cerebral and defensive minded but at the same time not afraid to shoot.
Not an "entertaining" pick like one of the small electrifying guards - but the type of pick that could bring championships within a decade.
He definitely gives off Bosh vibes than Davis. Which again, isn't a bad pick, but I'd still rather go with a guard, in which Cade is the clear cut #1 for me
Except like Davis, he grew up playing guard, so he has much more skill with the ball in his hand than someone like Bosh. Also not comparable at all defensively to Bosh and is much more of a fluid athlete than Bosh
My only concern for Mobley is his narrow frame
The Moose wrote:DBC10 wrote:vic wrote:
Evanem (just coined his Piston nickname) reminds me more of a mix between Bill Russell and Chris Bosh. He seems real cerebral and defensive minded but at the same time not afraid to shoot.
Not an "entertaining" pick like one of the small electrifying guards - but the type of pick that could bring championships within a decade.
He definitely gives off Bosh vibes than Davis. Which again, isn't a bad pick, but I'd still rather go with a guard, in which Cade is the clear cut #1 for me
Except like Davis, he grew up playing guard, so he has much more skill with the ball in his hand than someone like Bosh. Also not comparable at all defensively to Bosh and is much more of a fluid athlete than Bosh
My only concern for Mobley is his narrow frame
MotownMadness wrote:The Moose wrote:DBC10 wrote:
He definitely gives off Bosh vibes than Davis. Which again, isn't a bad pick, but I'd still rather go with a guard, in which Cade is the clear cut #1 for me
Except like Davis, he grew up playing guard, so he has much more skill with the ball in his hand than someone like Bosh. Also not comparable at all defensively to Bosh and is much more of a fluid athlete than Bosh
My only concern for Mobley is his narrow frame
Didn't know that, I knew it about Davis though.
when he was a 6-foot-4-inch guard in eighth grade — there was no denying basketball would be a part of his future. As a high school freshman, his potential was evident.
“We’d have skill development drills, and I would always make a note of a player’s rate of progression and, with Evan, I had never seen a player respond so fast,” Barefield said. “He was tall and lanky, but he became a different guy — a better player — and each week for 2½ years his footwork, athleticism, jumping, ability to run the floor and defense just got better.”