Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

[vic]

All coaches are gonna talk up there guys, they got a program to up hold.

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Yeah but you gotta pay attention to what they say, and what they don't say, and compare it with their track record. Most coaches aren't going to lie, but they will be very selective with what they say an d don't say.

[buzzkilloton]

I'm still waiting to hear some intel from Sharpe doing some private workouts and interviews with teams. It was always the case with him those would be very important. If this is all hes giving us then no way we could take him at 5.

As it stands now I'd be thrilled with Daniels or Ivey. That said I'm expecting Sharpe to be showing more to teams in the coming weeks. With Sharpes skillset all it would take is a little bullish momentum for him to be right back in play at 5.

[treefi]

To be honest, I find myself switching my preferred pick what seems like every other day. That's probably a good thing.

At #5, I'm happy with Jaden Ivey, Keegan Murray, Shaedon Sharpe, AJ Griffin, or Dyson Daniels (probably in that order). In Troy I trust, but if it were me I'd be looking to trade down with the Pacers, Blazers, or Pelicans

Unfortunately, I do see a big drop off in prospects after the big three. So before trading down, I'd be looking to trade up to get Jabari Smith, Chet Holmgren, or Paolo Banchero—but so is everyone else.

[bkseven]

Guards and wings win championship these days. Just look at the Celtics and Warriors bigs.

At 5, we need Ivey or Sharpe and we are guaranteed a chance to pick one of them.

[Jsindto]

Guards and wings win championship these days. Just look at the Celtics and Warriors bigs.

At 5, we need Ivey or Sharpe and we are guaranteed a chance to pick one of them.

Absolutely. Elite bigmen are an exception, which is why the top 3 are the top 3 (all potentially elite big men).

That's why I've cooled on Murray. Maybe he has untapped potential as an athlete that I don't see, and he's the next Jimmy Butler. And nobody sees it coming. But he's much more likely a pretty good PF.

I think there are a handful of guys I'd be good with at 5 though beyond Sharpe and Ivey. Daniels/Mathurin/Griffin are all guys I'd be good with taking. Just relying on Weaver to choose correctly. And if the pick is Murray, hope Weaver saw something more than "pretty good PF."

[Pharaoh]

I'm on Daniels. Have been for maybe 5 days. IF that improved 3 ball is legit sign me up

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[7r5ur]

I lean further away from Sharpe with every passing day. Call me crazy but a SG who seems to avoid playing basketball at all costs, can't break down High Schoolers off the dribble and shoots poorly from the line just doesn't scream #5 pick. I am reaaaally hoping that the Kings take him at #4, but I very highly doubt it at this point. I fully expect them to trade down and someone else to take Ivey at #4.

Give me Ivey, Murray, Math, and probably Daniels over him in that order.

[Pharaoh]

I lean further away from Sharpe with every passing day. Call me crazy but a SG who seems to avoid playing basketball at all costs, can't break down High Schoolers off the dribble and shoots poorly from the line just doesn't scream #5 pick. I am reaaaally hoping that the Kings take him at #4, but I very highly doubt it at this point. I fully expect them to trade down and someone else to take Ivey at #4.

Give me Ivey, Murray, Math, and probably Daniels over him in that order.

I'm:

Daniels
Murray - he fits the Williams/Barnes mold
Mathurin
Ivey
Sharpe

I'm starting to think the guy we have all overlooked is Mathurin. Or maybe I have and the rest of you knee deep on your research of him?

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[coolness]

I don't know how to do a screenshot and I don't have/want Twitter, but on the draft board someone put a screenshot of


@MavsDraft
Jalen Duren could go 5th and Tari Eason could slide into the early 20's.

[dVs33]

I lean further away from Sharpe with every passing day. Call me crazy but a SG who seems to avoid playing basketball at all costs, can't break down High Schoolers off the dribble and shoots poorly from the line just doesn't scream #5 pick. I am reaaaally hoping that the Kings take him at #4, but I very highly doubt it at this point. I fully expect them to trade down and someone else to take Ivey at #4.

Give me Ivey, Murray, Math, and probably Daniels over him in that order.

I'm:

Daniels
Murray - he fits the Williams/Barnes mold
Mathurin
Ivey
Sharpe

I'm starting to think the guy we have all overlooked is Mathurin. Or maybe I have and the rest of you knee deep on your research of him?

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Mathurin doesn’t seem to be listed as high as 5 in most mock drafts, but he seems to be a nice fit next to Cade. Good size, athleticism and shooting. Seems like he’s got a good attitude and a willing defender. I’d be happy with him. Not sure why he’s not as highly regarded. Maybe a limited ceiling?

[Kalamazoo317]

Mathurin is one of those guys who's got that relentless worker energy you need to get to the next level. Combine that with his 3 and D skill set and I'd prefer him over Ivey, personally. I think it's like the choice between a Deangelo Russel type and a Klay Thompson type. Give me the Klay any day.

[7r5ur]

Mathurin kinda looks like what you hope Sharpe will turn into lol (minus a bit of hops)

I'd be happy with him, but I would hope they could trade down a couple spots and gather a free asset if they decide he's the guy.

I legit think one of those guards/wings in the Mathurin/Griffin/Daniels/Agbaji/Davis range will end up as one of the top 3 players in the draft.

[Jsindto]

I lean further away from Sharpe with every passing day. Call me crazy but a SG who seems to avoid playing basketball at all costs, can't break down High Schoolers off the dribble and shoots poorly from the line just doesn't scream #5 pick. I am reaaaally hoping that the Kings take him at #4, but I very highly doubt it at this point. I fully expect them to trade down and someone else to take Ivey at #4.

Give me Ivey, Murray, Math, and probably Daniels over him in that order.

I'm:

Daniels
Murray - he fits the Williams/Barnes mold
Mathurin
Ivey
Sharpe

I'm starting to think the guy we have all overlooked is Mathurin. Or maybe I have and the rest of you knee deep on your research of him?

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Do you mean Grant Williams? If you take Grant Williams at #5, and one of the wings you take him over is even above average, you failed lol. I do think that's a decent projection, but 100% fits what I would consider "above average PF" and not something I'm taking at #5.

And in no world is Murray Scottie Barnes. Completely different level of athletes, and Barnes has a freakish wingspan.

[thesack12]

I lean further away from Sharpe with every passing day. Call me crazy but a SG who seems to avoid playing basketball at all costs, can't break down High Schoolers off the dribble and shoots poorly from the line just doesn't scream #5 pick. I am reaaaally hoping that the Kings take him at #4, but I very highly doubt it at this point. I fully expect them to trade down and someone else to take Ivey at #4.

Give me Ivey, Murray, Math, and probably Daniels over him in that order.

I'm:

Daniels
Murray - he fits the Williams/Barnes mold
Mathurin
Ivey
Sharpe

I'm starting to think the guy we have all overlooked is Mathurin. Or maybe I have and the rest of you knee deep on your research of him?

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Do you mean Grant Williams? If you take Grant Williams at #5, and one of the wings you take him over is even above average, you failed lol. I do think that's a decent projection, but 100% fits what I would consider "above average PF" and not something I'm taking at #5.

And in no world is Murray Scottie Barnes. Completely different level of athletes, and Barnes has a freakish wingspan.

I think he's talking about Patrick Williams. And maybe Harrison Barnes?

[Jsindto]

I'm:

Daniels
Murray - he fits the Williams/Barnes mold
Mathurin
Ivey
Sharpe

I'm starting to think the guy we have all overlooked is Mathurin. Or maybe I have and the rest of you knee deep on your research of him?

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Do you mean Grant Williams? If you take Grant Williams at #5, and one of the wings you take him over is even above average, you failed lol. I do think that's a decent projection, but 100% fits what I would consider "above average PF" and not something I'm taking at #5.

And in no world is Murray Scottie Barnes. Completely different level of athletes, and Barnes has a freakish wingspan.

I think he's talking about Patrick Williams. And maybe Harrison Barnes?

Possibly, but I'd hope not. Patrick Williams is a maybe good player, but certainly by no means someone I'd hope the player at #5 to be. Too early to tell for him.

If he means Harrison Barnes, that'd be a huge disappointment to me at 5. That's the definition of "4th best player on a championship team."

[flow]

Guards and wings win championship these days. Just look at the Celtics and Warriors bigs.

At 5, we need Ivey or Sharpe and we are guaranteed a chance to pick one of them.

We need the best player on the board. If Ivey or Sharpe happen to be, then fine. But drafting 'wing' doesn't make Sharpe Jayson Tatum, and drafting 'guard' doesn't make Ivey Steph Curry. We need talent. Draft player, not position.

[Crymson]

Mathurin may well have the best combination of talent, upside, and fit with Cade. BPA is variable by team. The Pistons aren't at a simple, "whatever talent is available" stage of the rebuild anymore. Fit with Cade is a consideration for anyone who'll be in the starting lineup with him.

I'm on Daniels. Have been for maybe 5 days. IF that improved 3 ball is legit sign me up

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A three-game stretch at the end of the season elevated his three-point percentage in the G-League from 26% to 30%. For reasons unbeknownst to me, that short hot stretch at season's end is being sold by some draft analysts as a sign of significant improvement rather than being acknowledged for the blip that it was. He did not improve over the course of the season. He started out bad, then got even worse through the midseason, and finally improved for a short stretch at the conclusion of the season. This isn't Haliburton, who shot extremely well in the NCAA. Daniels is still an unknown as a shooter.

Beyond that, he profiles as a two-way glue guy who would slide from a primary to a secondary playmaking role alongside Cade, who does not project to be the sort of secondary creator the Pistons need, and who, in being played next to Cade and Bey, would lock the team's starting five into poor athleticism on a lineup-wide scale.

I'm not a fan. He could be a good player in the NBA, but he doesn't fit what the Pistons need right now.

[mattao313]

Do you mean Grant Williams? If you take Grant Williams at #5, and one of the wings you take him over is even above average, you failed lol. I do think that's a decent projection, but 100% fits what I would consider "above average PF" and not something I'm taking at #5.

And in no world is Murray Scottie Barnes. Completely different level of athletes, and Barnes has a freakish wingspan.

I think he's talking about Patrick Williams. And maybe Harrison Barnes?

Possibly, but I'd hope not. Patrick Williams is a maybe good player, but certainly by no means someone I'd hope the player at #5 to be. Too early to tell for him.

If he means Harrison Barnes, that'd be a huge disappointment to me at 5. That's the definition of "4th best player on a championship team."

I'm pretty sure he means as prospects Patrick Williams and Scottie Barnes are guys Weaver were rumored to be interested in in there draft's.

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[Kalamazoo317]

Do you mean Grant Williams? If you take Grant Williams at #5, and one of the wings you take him over is even above average, you failed lol. I do think that's a decent projection, but 100% fits what I would consider "above average PF" and not something I'm taking at #5.

And in no world is Murray Scottie Barnes. Completely different level of athletes, and Barnes has a freakish wingspan.

I think he's talking about Patrick Williams. And maybe Harrison Barnes?

Possibly, but I'd hope not. Patrick Williams is a maybe good player, but certainly by no means someone I'd hope the player at #5 to be. Too early to tell for him.

If he means Harrison Barnes, that'd be a huge disappointment to me at 5. That's the definition of "4th best player on a championship team."

I think you may have unrealistic expectations about the level of talent available at #5 in this draft. Sure, maybe we hit the lottery with a Giannis type, but someone in the range of a Barnes or Grant Williams is a much more realistic outcome at #5. As is someone much worse.

[Crymson]

I think you may have unrealistic expectations about the level of talent available at #5 in this draft. Sure, maybe we hit the lottery with a Giannis type, but someone in the range of a Barnes or Grant Williams is a much more realistic outcome at #5. As is someone much worse.

Barnes is currently a less-than-his-stats role player on a bad team who plays poor defense, and Williams is a low-usage three-and-D bench player. Either would be an unambiguously poor return on the fifth pick in any draft.

If you're talking Barnes' complete career arc, the same remains true. He was a distant fifth most important starter on those 2014-2016 rosters and did badly in both postseasons. He went on to score many more points for bad Mavericks rosters that could afford to give him high usage that he didn't deserve, before ultimately being eagerly dumped to the Kings when Dallas began moving toward fielding a viable postseason roster.