PF targets

[Snakebites]

“Face of the league” has become such a tired part of NBA discourse.

[Crymson]

How great would it be to have Stew PJWashington Holland Beasley Shröder as our bench. Wowwww that's tough though.
Duren Tobias Ausar Ivey Cade starters dayammmm.

I hate to sound like a pedant, but where would the minutes come from for everybody? I understand the desire to pack as much talent into the roster as possible, but rotations are generally 8-9 (for what it's worth, JB ran eight in season 2-4 in Cleveland) so that everyone can get significant minutes. Players who are accustomed to significant roles, or who simply believe that they deserve those roles, generally don't take kindly to becoming depth players.

If Schroder and Beasley are back, then we're probably looking at something in the realm of this:

PG: Cade 34, Schroder 14
SG: Ivey 32, Schroder 6, Beasley 10
SF: Ausar 18, Holland 18, Beasley 12
PF: Tobias 32, Ausar 16

PJ has averaged upwards of 30 MPG across his career. The Pistons wouldn't be able to find even 20 for him without kicking Holland out of the rotation.

[the_l_train]

How great would it be to have Stew PJWashington Holland Beasley Shröder as our bench. Wowwww that's tough though.
Duren Tobias Ausar Ivey Cade starters dayammmm.

I hate to sound like a pedant, but where would the minutes come from for everybody? I understand the desire to pack as much talent into the roster as possible, but rotations are generally 8-9 (for what it's worth, JB ran eight in season 2-4 in Cleveland) so that everyone can get significant minutes. Players who are accustomed to significant roles, or who simply believe that they deserve those roles, generally don't take kindly to becoming depth players.

If Schroder and Beasley are back, then we're probably looking at something in the realm of this:

PG: Cade 34, Schroder 14
SG: Ivey 32, Schroder 6, Beasley 10
SF: Ausar 18, Holland 18, Beasley 12
PF: Tobias 32, Ausar 16

PJ has averaged upwards of 30 MPG across his career. The Pistons wouldn't be able to find even 20 for him without kicking Holland out of the rotation.

Start PJ and give him his 30, Tobias would be great off the bench. Holland can take those Shroder SG mins you have listed.

Give Cade some or those SF minutes so you can play him with Shroder/Beasley.

JB was playing 9-10 man rotation all season and we did great. Shifting that to an 8 man rotation hurt us in the playoffs, should have kept to what worked for us all year, playoffs or not. Carlisle going against the grain and going deep with the rotation is working like a charm, and I’d argue we are a better team top to bottom.

[Kalamazoo317]

Indy goes 10 deep regularly and they seem to be doing OK

[uncleoswald]

Marc Stein is linking the Pistons to Naz Reid and Myles Turner. How do we feel about that?

I’m not sure of Reid’s fit next to Duren or Turner’s fit next to Stewart.

[GreekAlex]

Marc Stein is linking the Pistons to Naz Reid and Myles Turner. How do we feel about that?

I’m not sure of Reid’s fit next to Duren or Turner’s fit next to Stewart.

Does he give any indication as to the path to acquiring them?

[LaSheed]

Marc Stein is linking the Pistons to Naz Reid and Myles Turner. How do we feel about that?

I’m not sure of Reid’s fit next to Duren or Turner’s fit next to Stewart.

That's exactly it. Don't get comfortable with either Duren or Stewart lol

[zeebneeb]

Marc Stein is linking the Pistons to Naz Reid and Myles Turner. How do we feel about that?

I’m not sure of Reid’s fit next to Duren or Turner’s fit next to Stewart.

Naz would be an amazing fit next to Duren. Absolutely ideal, save for JJJ, best in the league.

Turner would be great as well.

*edit* as a matter of fact, if Naz really wants to come here, because he would immediately start, Langdon needs to clear some space, and sign him to a nice fat contract. Adding a 25yo career 37% shooting, block a game, 6'9 265lbs PF trumps everything else.

His per 36?

19p/8r/3a/1s/1b

Yeah, get that DONE.

[the_l_train]

I like the idea of Naz in general, but whenever I watch him he seems a bit slow and underwhelming on defense…seemed to have put up a dud in the playoffs.

Maybe if we did not have 2 centers already, he seems perfectly suited as a stretch 5 but questionable as a starting stretch 4.

If Trajan goes for it, I trust his judgement…would also prefer him over Myles Turner, but a little worried about the money required and ramifications on the rest of the roster to make it happen.

Again, wouldn't hate bringing him in, but it still seems a little risky. Maybe if we do it, we then flip Duren for the same type of PF we’ve been looking for per this thread.

Houston looking to deal their #10 pick…maybe that is Rasheer Flemming…Give them Duren for it, and they then move Sengun and pieces for Giannis??? (me pointing my fingers like Brian Windhorst right now)

Naz
Fleming
Ausar/Holland
Ivey
Cade

…that’s a damn good young nucleus…and allows us to worry less about Ausars non-shooting and surround Cade with more floor spacing.

[Canadafan]

Marc Stein is linking the Pistons to Naz Reid and Myles Turner. How do we feel about that?

I’m not sure of Reid’s fit next to Duren or Turner’s fit next to Stewart.

Naz would be an amazing fit next to Duren. Absolutely ideal, save for JJJ, best in the league.

Turner would be great as well.

*edit* as a matter of fact, if Naz really wants to come here, because he would immediately start, Langdon needs to clear some space, and sign him to a nice fat contract. Adding a 25yo career 37% shooting, block a game, 6'9 265lbs PF trumps everything else.

His per 36?

19p/8r/3a/1s/1b

Yeah, get that DONE.

How much u think he gets in 1st yr?

[LaSheed]

Marc Stein is linking the Pistons to Naz Reid and Myles Turner. How do we feel about that?

I’m not sure of Reid’s fit next to Duren or Turner’s fit next to Stewart.

Naz would be an amazing fit next to Duren. Absolutely ideal, save for JJJ, best in the league.

Turner would be great as well.

*edit* as a matter of fact, if Naz really wants to come here, because he would immediately start, Langdon needs to clear some space, and sign him to a nice fat contract. Adding a 25yo career 37% shooting, block a game, 6'9 265lbs PF trumps everything else.

His per 36?

19p/8r/3a/1s/1b

Yeah, get that DONE.

How much u think he gets in 1st yr?

Atleast 25+

[Canadafan]

Naz would be an amazing fit next to Duren. Absolutely ideal, save for JJJ, best in the league.

Turner would be great as well.

*edit* as a matter of fact, if Naz really wants to come here, because he would immediately start, Langdon needs to clear some space, and sign him to a nice fat contract. Adding a 25yo career 37% shooting, block a game, 6'9 265lbs PF trumps everything else.

His per 36?

19p/8r/3a/1s/1b

Yeah, get that DONE.

How much u think he gets in 1st yr?

Atleast 25+

Ooohhhhh a sign and trade for Fontecchio +Sasser plus all our 2nd rounders lol works out perfectly money wise!
Sorry Beasley, unfortunately you gotta take the Room exception lol.

[zeebneeb]

Marc Stein is linking the Pistons to Naz Reid and Myles Turner. How do we feel about that?

I’m not sure of Reid’s fit next to Duren or Turner’s fit next to Stewart.

Naz would be an amazing fit next to Duren. Absolutely ideal, save for JJJ, best in the league.

Turner would be great as well.

*edit* as a matter of fact, if Naz really wants to come here, because he would immediately start, Langdon needs to clear some space, and sign him to a nice fat contract. Adding a 25yo career 37% shooting, block a game, 6'9 265lbs PF trumps everything else.

His per 36?

19p/8r/3a/1s/1b

Yeah, get that DONE.

How much u think he gets in 1st yr?

As answered, probably 25+, but with that said, it has to get done if he is going to truly be available. He is your prototypical modern PF, and would be ideal next to Duren.

I dont want to get all excited, as landing someone that would fit perfectly is rare(think Rasheed)but its even more so, as he's only 25.

Cade 23
Ivey 23
Ausar 22
Reed 25
Duren 21

At that point, ANY kind of bench is gonna be fine. It is exceedingly rare to have a complete, complimentary starting lineup be that young. I also firmly believe that the Pistons with that starting group, could immediately be put in the dark horse title contender camp. Experience, or lack thereof, would be their main enemy.

If enough pieces are shuffled, and the team can also hold onto a stout 6th man, well hell, who knows?

[LaSheed]

Naz would be an amazing fit next to Duren. Absolutely ideal, save for JJJ, best in the league.

Turner would be great as well.

*edit* as a matter of fact, if Naz really wants to come here, because he would immediately start, Langdon needs to clear some space, and sign him to a nice fat contract. Adding a 25yo career 37% shooting, block a game, 6'9 265lbs PF trumps everything else.

His per 36?

19p/8r/3a/1s/1b

Yeah, get that DONE.

How much u think he gets in 1st yr?

As answered, probably 25+, but with that said, it has to get done if he is going to truly be available. He is your prototypical modern PF, and would be ideal next to Duren.

I dont want to get all excited, as landing someone that would fit perfectly is rare(think Rasheed)but its even more so, as he's only 25.

Cade 23
Ivey 23
Ausar 22
Reed 25
Duren 21

At that point, ANY kind of bench is gonna be fine. It is exceedingly rare to have a complete, complimentary starting lineup be that young. I also firmly believe that the Pistons with that starting group, could immediately be put in the dark horse title contender camp. Experience, or lack thereof, would be their main enemy.

If enough pieces are shuffled, and the team can also hold onto a stout 6th man, well hell, who knows?

Man I'm with you. Reid has been on my wishlist for 2 years+ now. Exciting to see our name attached but also not getting my hopes up.

[MotownMadness]

Reid is a nice fit but I’m assuming it takes a sign n trade

[Neptune]

Reid is a nice fit but I’m assuming in takes a sign n trade

Sign and trade? If they asked for Holland, Tech, Sasser+multiple 2nds would you do it?

[MotownMadness]

Reid is a nice fit but I’m assuming in takes a sign n trade

Sign and trade? If they asked for Holland, Tech, Sasser+multiple 2nds would you do it?

Can you even do multiple players like that? I don’t even know if we have what they would want to take back.

[Neptune]

Reid is a nice fit but I’m assuming in takes a sign n trade

Sign and trade? If they asked for Holland, Tech, Sasser+multiple 2nds would you do it?

Can you even do multiple players like that?

Of course they would provide fill-ins(likely players that would get cut). I'm just asking would you send Holland, Sasser and Tech+multiple 2nds

[MotownMadness]

Sign and trade? If they asked for Holland, Tech, Sasser+multiple 2nds would you do it?

Can you even do multiple players like that?

Of course they would provide fill-ins(likely players that would get cut). I'm just asking would you send Holland, Sasser and Tech+multiple 2nds

Basically that’s asking would I give up Holland for him.

I probably wouldn’t give up that kind of value in a sign n trade.

[Neptune]

Can you even do multiple players like that?

Of course they would provide fill-ins(likely players that would get cut). I'm just asking would you send Holland, Sasser and Tech+multiple 2nds

Basically that’s asking would I give up Holland for him.

I probably wouldn’t give up that kind of value in a sign n trade.

I think the same. I have feeling they'll ask if this rumor is true though