Manocad wrote:coolness wrote:Manocad wrote:It's a common defense mechanism. Sometimes people throw out a poor argument, it gets addressed as being a poor argument, they get embarrassed, and then they turn to calling the person who embarrassed them a jerk or similar.
But that's internet forums. To some people like me it's a form of mild entertainment. And to some it's an emotional roller coaster that causes them great consternation. I generally just laugh because watching people melt down over words on a screen is just funny to me.
Well, did anyone really melt down that we know of for sure? It was pretty much me writing novels, and feeling pretty good if you can believe me. You writing some short posts that I wished were longer. Flow wrote even less. And nobody else jumped in iirc. My only hard feeling (which didn't feel hard thanks to the impairment and maybe some luck and I'm usually just easygoing without trying) was that I was hoping for more on the conversation. It's just more interesting and important than basketball. I was hoping for more somehow even though it didn't really have to do with the draft, lol.
I hope nobody had hard feelings. I feel like I should say that there is something wrong with thinking it's funny if people are feeling twisted though. Even if laughing is a feeling/reaction. If I saw someone melt down on The Simpsons, I would laugh, but in real life, I don't like the idea. I'll try to be realistic that I could laugh at someone having a hard time unexpectedly though, because I'm a flawed and even hypocritical dude, but it ain't right, and I feel there have to be ways to avoid it. I don't think it happening on the internet changes anything, but it might feel different easily.
I guess disagreements about things more important than basketball can have implications/judging in a certain way or whatever, but I hope we don't like it if for some reason we can't get along at the moment.
Anyways, good morning.
Nobody should have any hard feelings; it's words on a screen. But you see how quickly some people turn to insults when they're embarrassed about making a poor argument. And trust me, there ARE people here who melt down simply because people counter their argument. It's an insecurity thing; they're looking for validation by putting an argument out there and hoping everyone agrees with them and gives them a big pat on the back. And if you disagree, especially if you have a really sound counterargument, sometimes these people get pissy and turn to the insults, as flow did. Which I find funny.
For the record, mental masturbation is basically waaaaaaay overthinking/overspeaking something (making a mental mountain out of a molehill) for the sake of pointless conversation. To me the Mathurin thing was simple--a video comes out that looks like an inadvertent brush of fingertips against the middle of a dancer's chest, people in our "woke" society start hollering "WTF is that all about?" on social media, as a response Mathurin/Arizona reached out to the TCU athletic department in an effort to get in touch with the dancer and offer an apology, and neither TCU nor the dancer responded. Done. Dead issue. Creating all these potential intentions, scenarios, outcomes, etc. to fit a narrative is the mental masturbation part. As I like to say, this isn't Occam's razor. More often than not the obvious answer is the answer.
Yea, I know I've heard 'mental masturbation' but maybe only once, and def never used it. So, I went back to think about it a few times. Like masturbation is a solo act, so I was mental masturbating, but still legit trying to engage and hoping for more responses. Or that masturbation is pointless??? Idunno, I just like discussions about things deeper than basketball, and somehow wanted that from realgm, lol. Maybe masturbation can be tedious?? I was trying to flesh out every possible thought. It wasn't very deep but somewhat deep and could've led to other interesting topics which would've been a much bigger and blatant off-topic violation lol, and I couldn't stop thinking about stuff. When my friend left last night, we were having great conversations and then I was left with myself and the internet after taking speed, lol. I don't know what you thought before you said 'mental masturbation', but I figured I didn't have to take it bad in this case, and I could still know I'm a sinner and stuff.
"Occam's Razor" is rad. I don't think in terms of it and don't talk about it. Maybe because I'm not science-minded. With the cheerleader/Mathurin thing, my guess is that it was weird and did no harm or temporary small harm. But, I see it as a guess. I could see how maybe, I would feel disrespected (as myself somedays not as a cheerleader, hehe) and then never talk about it again to anyone and nobody would know. *shrug*
Yea, just gotta appreciate what you're saying about internet interactions. I think we should always look at it like we're capable of the same reactions we see get out of hand, and that along with a little intention and luck is our best chance to not get into those entanglements and say regrettable things. It's weird that it can even happen talking basketball. Go to one website and it's about abortion or something, and then _____. *shrug*
Last night was the first time I heard of Mathurin/Cheerleader. Was it a big deal in some places? I know people who might go hard against Mathurin for it. Strangely, some people with those ideas might not wanna hold a black man to high standards out of some weirdness/complication. And, I hate even mentioning race, because it makes me question if I care about myself. In a way, it's in nobody's self-interest to mention race ever, lol. I heard a guy say that and thought he sounded like a douche, but I'm guessing he's more of a "winner" than me. I tried to incorporate the ideas I associate with them ("feminists" or whatever) , and tried to balance it, but still regretted some words. I kept thinking about a couple things from my life. I thought about a guy I used to be tight with, who's handsome and has a bunch of swag/charisma and "knows how to act" around men and women both, and makes women wanna please him and makes way more money than I ever knew bartenders could make.....and all that to tell you, he grabbed a lot of women's breasts when they sat down at the bar and afaik, got away with it every time. A bar chick is very likely to just react with laughter, but that doesn't make it right in my mind. Laughing and whatever is easy and fast and then the tit-grabbin is over. :/ I don't like that, but never called him on it in the bar. Would've been hard and weird to call him on it when he's like a local celebrity or whatever, his family owned the place, the girls and guys all liked him, and I was there to drink, not be the squeaky wheel and probably end up leaving because of it. I'm definitely not jealous of him with the ladies though. If I went on talking about him, I could make it sound like he doesn't have it as good with the ladies since he's gotten older.
Man, Idunno how off-track I'm getting. I feel bad for any younger posters if they're at risk for screwing up bad with the girls/women. They don't need an opinion on Mathurin. But, be careful as you can think of with girls/women, and come up with ideas to be respectful and careful, and don't be surprised if you're crazy thoughts influence your actions later unexpectedly. And believe that women fear men in some way. If they don't say they do or act like they do, they still can under the surface, and they can't even change it. Never admire the dudes who are so cool by how much they can get away with. Those guys DON'T have it good in any meaningful way. Their lives suck really soon after everyone else becomes an adult.
Never do speed, lol. I feel bad for mentioning casually when younger dudes could be here. I don't think they wanna be like me, lol, I'm not the coolest, but I don't wanna be responsible for them seeing it as normal/casual. Usually people have an rx and don't call it speed. *shrug* There are more than a few good reasons not to. Google, I guess. I have two old, good friends who got entangled with it and they say emphatically not to. I did it the 3rd time last night. And decided never again. The other two times two months ago. Middle-aged dude "experimenting" lol, so not cool. If someone says it gives energy, yea a tiny bit, but the energy doesn't go where you want it to. You pretty much get less done, and your slight peppiness goes to wastes of time more likely. You'll very likely get less studying or errands done. Does NOT "sharpen you between the ears." Not dumb, easy mistakes the same way that weed and alcohol do, but the difference is you talk more (or type more) a lot more while thinking at the same old speed, and that can cause some easy mistakes and also you can unexpectedly lose your train of thought. And, it doesn't feel intense anywhere near alcohol or weed, so if you wanna be dumb and get lit, you wouldn't even want to try it.
LOL, I just felt guilty before that I could technically have lied in Mathurin posts, and now I'm afraid I'm a bad influence. I don't know anything about the age range here. :/
