Christian Wood didn’t want to leave Detroit

[pistonsbball]

I watched most of his game tonight. He ain't showing anything he didn't show for the Pistons last year. I think he's currently in the top 5 bigs you'd pick to start a franchise with. I feel like I've made the same post about C Wood 15 times, but his skillset is just so perfect for this league right now. You can argue he'd keep us on the treadmill.. however, C Wood is the type of talent you tank to get. I think this roster is bad enough we'd still be losing anyway.

Also, C Wood as a bad defender is a lazy take. I always felt he was solid, even last year. He can move his feet, make smart rotations and he's stronger than he should be with his wiry frame.

[Pharaoh]

There is no way - in the East - we don't make the playoffs as a low seed with:

Wood - Dedmon - Okafor
Blake - (Grant) - Stewart - Sekou
Grant - Bey
Jackson - (Bey) - (Wright) - Ellington
Wright - Rose - (Hayes)

That roster = Gores playoff mandate and every year we'd shuffle the deck chairs on this Titanic hoping, praying for some weird kind of luck that will net us something more.

I believe Wood, Grant & the kids would be that good we'd never be anything but the Pacers.

Not saying that's a bad thing - being a playoff team year after year is cool too but they ain't ever gonna win anything actually important.

After all this time I'm sure some would settle for that.

I'm not some

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[7r5ur]

There is no way - in the East - we don't make the playoffs as a low seed with:

Wood - Dedmon - Okafor
Blake - (Grant) - Stewart - Sekou
Grant - Bey
Jackson - (Bey) - (Wright) - Ellington
Wright - Rose - (Hayes)

That roster = Gores playoff mandate and every year we'd shuffle the deck chairs on this Titanic hoping, praying for some weird kind of luck that will net us something more.

I believe Wood, Grant & the kids would be that good we'd never be anything but the Pacers.

Not saying that's a bad thing - being a playoff team year after year is cool too but they ain't ever gonna win anything actually important.

After all this time I'm sure some would settle for that.

I'm not some

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Then you trade highly valuable assets like Grant or Wood for pieces that you think aim the team in the right direction. This entire argument seems to be predicated on the fact that Weaver is an inept GM who isn't capable of managing assets to properly build a team, so you're better off not having them at all...?

Finding 25-year-old 20/10 guys in the scrap heap does not happen often. Whether or not we would build a great team here around him is not the point. Losing him for nothing is as good as trading away a future lotto pick for "cash considerations". There is no positive way to spin it.

[Piston Pete]

Right.

If your argument for throwing away Wood is that if we kept him, we’d win more....then why go after and sign Grant?

Grant is older than Wood.
Signing Grant created a logjam at SF/PF
Grant is good. Why was signing him not hurting the tank?

And we could be the worst team in the league. It won’t guarantee us a top pick.

And even if we get a top pick, it won’t guarantee us a superstar that will lead us to an NBA Championship.

So at the end of the day, we threw away a young, KNOWN commodity for a chance at a shiny, new UNKNOWN commodity.

And I still maintain this lineup would be bottom-5 in the league:

Hayes / Rose
Jackson / Svi
Grant / Bey
Blake / Sekou
Wood / Stewart / Okafor

[edmunder_prc]

I watched most of his game tonight. He ain't showing anything he didn't show for the Pistons last year. I think he's currently in the top 5 bigs you'd pick to start a franchise with. I feel like I've made the same post about C Wood 15 times, but his skillset is just so perfect for this league right now. You can argue he'd keep us on the treadmill.. however, C Wood is the type of talent you tank to get. I think this roster is bad enough we'd still be losing anyway.

Also, C Wood as a bad defender is a lazy take. I always felt he was solid, even last year. He can move his feet, make smart rotations and he's stronger than he should be with his wiry frame.

Yeah if Pistons tank all year they might get Mobley, who in a year or two would play like Wood.

Or we could have Wood now. Who every one saw was playing great. And Mobley/Cade/Suggs.

SVG didnt have Donovan Mitchell play on his team all year, then let him go. He screwed up the pick. Weaver had Casey's first hand knowledge and the tape of how good Wood was, and let him go.

[ByeByeDre]

Wood had five threes yesterday. OkaPlumStew has zero this season.

[Han Solo]

I sit in the minority of us Detroit fans I think. I was sad to see him go, but I’ve moved on. We are a bad team. Keeping him wasn’t necessary. Would have been nice, but wasn’t a necessity to our future success. We are rebuilding.

I hope Wood keeps killing it too. I’m happy for him.

[MotownMadness]

I watched most of his game tonight. He ain't showing anything he didn't show for the Pistons last year. I think he's currently in the top 5 bigs you'd pick to start a franchise with. I feel like I've made the same post about C Wood 15 times, but his skillset is just so perfect for this league right now. You can argue he'd keep us on the treadmill.. however, C Wood is the type of talent you tank to get. I think this roster is bad enough we'd still be losing anyway.

Also, C Wood as a bad defender is a lazy take. I always felt he was solid, even last year. He can move his feet, make smart rotations and he's stronger than he should be with his wiry frame.

Yeah if Pistons tank all year they might get Mobley, who in a year or two would play like Wood.

Or we could have Wood now. Who every one saw was playing great. And Mobley/Cade/Suggs.

SVG didnt have Donovan Mitchell play on his team all year, then let him go. He screwed up the pick. Weaver had Casey's first hand knowledge and the tape of how good Wood was, and let him go.

Mobley is far more skilled then Wood. Wood is just a freak who goes all out and will dunk on anyone and everything. But he's not someone you just give the ball in a clutch situation and let him create a shot.

Hes good but hes still just a super role player where Mobley has a arsenal of moves to create his own shot

[MotownMadness]

I sit in the minority of us Detroit fans I think. I was sad to see him go, but I’ve moved on. We are a bad team. Keeping him wasn’t necessary. Would have been nice, but wasn’t a necessity to our future success. We are rebuilding.

I hope Wood keeps killing it too. I’m happy for him.

Yeah people talk more about irrelevant things on here that have nothing to do with our current situation. Talk more about guys actually on the team or draft prospects in my opinion.

Too much talk about what other teams and players are doing that is completely irrelevant at this point.

[Snakebites]

I sit in the minority of us Detroit fans I think. I was sad to see him go, but I’ve moved on. We are a bad team. Keeping him wasn’t necessary. Would have been nice, but wasn’t a necessity to our future success. We are rebuilding.

I hope Wood keeps killing it too. I’m happy for him.

I think the difference stems from the fact that some of us view him as a solid player and some view him as an All-NBA talent.

I wish we’d have kept him but I don’t see it as unforgivable.

[Invictus88]

I sit in the minority of us Detroit fans I think. I was sad to see him go, but I’ve moved on. We are a bad team. Keeping him wasn’t necessary. Would have been nice, but wasn’t a necessity to our future success. We are rebuilding.

I hope Wood keeps killing it too. I’m happy for him.

I think the difference stems from the fact that some of us view him as a solid player and some view him as an All-NBA talent.

I wish we’d have kept him but I don’t see it as unforgivable.

There aren't two buckets here despite your best efforts to paint things that way.

I see him as a potential all star some years; likely a reserve but still. Not All-NBA. Not a superstar. But if your team loses control of a player like that and gets nothing in return it is inexcusable. If you don't want to build around him then sign him to a contract, let him play the first month or so in the season to establish value and then flip him. That's a first round pick you just let walk out the doors. For nothing.

I've said this before though. I'm tired of having to re-explain it to seemingly deaf ears.

[Snakebites]

I sit in the minority of us Detroit fans I think. I was sad to see him go, but I’ve moved on. We are a bad team. Keeping him wasn’t necessary. Would have been nice, but wasn’t a necessity to our future success. We are rebuilding.

I hope Wood keeps killing it too. I’m happy for him.

I think the difference stems from the fact that some of us view him as a solid player and some view him as an All-NBA talent.

I wish we’d have kept him but I don’t see it as unforgivable.

There aren't two buckets here despite your best efforts to paint things that way.

I see him as a potential all star some years; likely a reserve but still. Not All-NBA. Not a superstar. But if your team loses control of a player like that and gets nothing in return it is inexcusable. If you don't want to build around him then sign him to a contract, let him play the first month or so in the season and then flip him. That's a first round pick you just let walk out the doors. For nothing.

I've said this before though. I'm tired of having to re-explain it to seemingly deaf ears.

If that’s how you see him then we agree completely.

So what are we talking about here?

How big a deal it is? That’s boring.

[Invictus88]

I think the difference stems from the fact that some of us view him as a solid player and some view him as an All-NBA talent.

I wish we’d have kept him but I don’t see it as unforgivable.

There aren't two buckets here despite your best efforts to paint things that way.

I see him as a potential all star some years; likely a reserve but still. Not All-NBA. Not a superstar. But if your team loses control of a player like that and gets nothing in return it is inexcusable. If you don't want to build around him then sign him to a contract, let him play the first month or so in the season and then flip him. That's a first round pick you just let walk out the doors. For nothing.

I've said this before though. I'm tired of having to re-explain it to seemingly deaf ears.

If that’s how you see him then we agree completely.

So what are we talking about here?

How big a deal it is? That’s boring.

Now I'm confused. You just get through downplaying the significance of losing Wood for nothing (downplaying how big of a deal it is) and then say that we agree completely?

Sorry for being boring. I consider a first round pick to be very interesting but to each their own.

[Snakebites]

There aren't two buckets here despite your best efforts to paint things that way.

I see him as a potential all star some years; likely a reserve but still. Not All-NBA. Not a superstar. But if your team loses control of a player like that and gets nothing in return it is inexcusable. If you don't want to build around him then sign him to a contract, let him play the first month or so in the season and then flip him. That's a first round pick you just let walk out the doors. For nothing.

I've said this before though. I'm tired of having to re-explain it to seemingly deaf ears.

If that’s how you see him then we agree completely.

So what are we talking about here?

How big a deal it is? That’s boring.

Now I'm confused. You just get through downplaying the significance of losing Wood for nothing (downplaying how big of a deal it is) and then say that we agree completely?

Sorry for being boring.

I meant we largely agree on the assessment of the player.

We disagree on whether it’s worth complaining this long about it.

And yeah, that’s a boring argument.

[Invictus88]

If that’s how you see him then we agree completely.

So what are we talking about here?

How big a deal it is? That’s boring.

Now I'm confused. You just get through downplaying the significance of losing Wood for nothing (downplaying how big of a deal it is) and then say that we agree completely?

Sorry for being boring.

I meant we largely agree on the assessment of the player.

We disagree on whether it’s worth complaining this long about it.

And yeah, that’s a boring argument.

I'm responding to a post that you made on a message board. I mean, if you don't want to talk about it or how someone responds then don't make the initial statement. Or don't respond. Either way, just don't post. Sheesh.

But we are in full agreement now. Totally not worth saying anything else.

[ChipButty]

In agreement with most here. Definitely a big misstep by Weaver but it's time to move on. We can bring it up again when it comes time to watch Houston draft somebody with the future first rounder we also gave them.

[NYPiston]

It has to be explained again to anybody who wants to listen that it was Grant vs. Wood. They didn't have the space to fit in both. Hell, they had to stretch guys just to fit in Grant. Even without Plumlee, they would have had a hard time fitting in both.

Furthermore, it takes two to tango. Maybe Wood didn't want to sign here or maybe it would have taken much more than the Houston offer to entice him to stay. There's a lot of factors involved to simply say "Weaver sucks because he didn't sign Wood" and this is coming from somebody who really wanted him to re-sign.

Bottom line? It's time to move on. I'm perfectly happy with Grant.

[thesack12]

Yep, not much sense in discussing something that happened in the past or talking about a player that is not on the team.

On a related note, when are we going to establish that the only things worth discussing about the entire 2020 draft is solely talk about Hayes/Bey/Stewart/Lee? Why should anyone discuss other matters related to that draft? I mean its in the past and anything not relevant to the players on that list are not on the Pistons.

[Piston Pete]

We can no longer discuss anything Piston-related unless it’s happening real-time.

[Piston Pete]

What is the board’s censoring policy?

Might as well shut down this board in-between games.