Trade deadline thread

[pistons4ever]

The only trade of wemba would be for a Superstar in the mold of Giannis, doncic or jokic.......Giannis would give US AT least 7 years of success...

[bstein14]

The only trade of wemba would be for a Superstar in the mold of Giannis, doncic or jokic.......Giannis would give US AT least 7 years of success...

I'd say the more likely trade would be if we landed #1, and a team like OKC got #2 and officered us Chet, #2, and a bunch of other draft picks for him... Still probably not likely because of the level of player that VW projects to be... it would be like us trying to trade Darko, Okur, Prince, and multiple future firsts for LeBron back in 2003.

[Pharaoh]

Whichever team gets #1 won't trade Wemby - that's how a GM gets fired.


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[Kalamazoo317]

The two entities with the highest Mo Bamba reference rate. Ever.

1. His parents
2. This forum

We don't even need another big imo Stewart, Duren, Bagley , why do we need Bamba?

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Beefstew is best as a 4 alongside a center, IMO and Bagley is the walking wounded.

[Kalamazoo317]

Portland fans offer -

Blazers out: Simons, Nas Little, Keon Johnson, Winslow (expiring)
Pistons out: Bojan, Bey, Hayes, Noel

or

Blazers out: Simons, Brown
Pistons out: Bojan, Bey

The second one is pretty appealing. Gets messy if we end up with the second overall pick though (and maybe even if not with Cade, Ivey, and Hayes).

[coolness]

Simons makes some darn good sense. I don't think you came correct on the offer though. I think we could come correct though and make them significantly better for this postseason while getting Simons and expirings (if they have any lol) and maybe even one or more 1st. I would include Ivey. I didn't see Burks included, but we could. But we could really help each other imo. I'm just not gonna try to make my own fanboy trade at the moment.

The one big thing somebody could correct me on is if Simons is really that much better than Ivey on offense and defending pg's. I know he's darn good and earned that big contract though. And I know if Ivey gets there, cool, but he isn't there now, and seems too ball-dominant for Cade for possibly forever.

I read someone say earlier on realgm that Portland could use another forward alongside Grant, so maybe Bey is just perfect.

[mattao313]

The two entities with the highest Mo Bamba reference rate. Ever.

1. His parents
2. This forum

We don't even need another big imo Stewart, Duren, Bagley , why do we need Bamba?

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Beefstew is best as a 4 alongside a center, IMO and Bagley is the walking wounded.

Lmao about bagley but imo Stewart has surprised me a little bit he's definitely a 4/5. I dont see the point in investing in another backup big.

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[pistons4ever]

I am not sure....imagine..you are a GM and you have the no1 pick...wemba is a special talent but nothing is sure...talentwise he could become unique, an all time great but until beeing dominant he will need some years.... not to mentioned the history of big guys and theier injury reports....
Than you get a call and someone offers you a top 10 Player, under 30 years old and you would have a window of atleast 5 -7 years ...??and this Superstar makes easier to get a top free agent on board....so you would have the chance to ve competitiv for the next 7 years and you can win some rings......for me IT would be worth csuse wemba would be then 26 and perhaps the player everyone see in him...of cause there is no guarantee...for nothing

[DetroitSho]

The two entities with the highest Mo Bamba reference rate. Ever.

1. His parents
2. This forum

This is absolute facts, it's mind boggling.

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[bstein14]

You'd have to think the fact that Noel isn't in the rotation even with Bagley hurt means that his trade value is pretty shot. He mind end up being a buyout candidate since he's going to want to try to go somewhere where he can get on the floor since he's in a contract year.

[JRoy]

Simons makes some darn good sense. I don't think you came correct on the offer though. I think we could come correct though and make them significantly better for this postseason while getting Simons and expirings (if they have any lol) and maybe even one or more 1st. I would include Ivey. I didn't see Burks included, but we could. But we could really help each other imo. I'm just not gonna try to make my own fanboy trade at the moment.

The one big thing somebody could correct me on is if Simons is really that much better than Ivey on offense and defending pg's. I know he's darn good and earned that big contract though. And I know if Ivey gets there, cool, but he isn't there now, and seems too ball-dominant for Cade for possibly forever.

I read someone say earlier on realgm that Portland could use another forward alongside Grant, so maybe Bey is just perfect.

I have seen a lot of Simons and I am not a fan. He is a weak playmaker and a very weak defensive player at pg. He is an excellent scorer.

If he is flanked by switchable pg/sf with solid defense and playmaking he would thrive. Putting him next to weak defensive players is a mistake.

[Kalamazoo317]

We don't even need another big imo Stewart, Duren, Bagley , why do we need Bamba?

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Beefstew is best as a 4 alongside a center, IMO and Bagley is the walking wounded.

Lmao about bagley but imo Stewart has surprised me a little bit he's definitely a 4/5. I dont see the point in investing in another backup big.

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I think our defense looks its best when we're able to play Beefstew alongside Duren. We have our best rim protection and rebounding and the two started to develop chemistry on offense.

But we can't really play them together consistently right now because we just don't have the big man depth. A little small ball five here and there is fine, but when your defense is historically bad, it makes sense to try to get a little more beef and rim protection in the middle.

And if shot blocking floor stretching bigs were something we could just snap up from the G-League, why don't we have any on our roster?

I'm not saying bring in Bamba as our savior. I'm saying I could see some solid value in him as a back up if we can get him for the right price. If y'all think there are better options out there, name the player.

[coolness]

Ivey & Bojan for Simons

Hayes/Burks/Diallo/Bagley/Noel for Westbrook, small expirings, 2 2nd's



Put them together and Simons is part of our core with Cade/Stew/Duren. EDIT: and Livers

And we have more cap.

2nd's never hurt anything. Unless you put them in a trade from your team on the T&T Board.

Buy out Goatbrook though.


Could trade Bey for an expiring and 2 2nd's too.


Then we wait for the coolness trade of Wemby on draft night. And the coolness trade of our 2nd's for a not bad 1st. Like the 18th pick or something. Jarace Walker will probably rise a lot, but nbadraft.net has him available there.

[Kalamazoo317]

Cap for cap's sake. To what end? It's a fairly unimpressive free agency market and we're not a free agency destination. Not seeing the purpose in essentially punting on all of our young players outside of Cade/Stew/Duren.

[coolness]

Cap for cap's sake. To what end? It's a fairly unimpressive free agency market and we're not a free agency destination. Not seeing the purpose in essentially punting on all of our young players outside of Cade/Stew/Duren.

I think we really could get Grant Williams AND Dillon Brooks through overpays. They will already both get more than people were saying on our board earlier though. Also, nobody's punting on our top-5 pick. It would be a good core. Our players are too close to the same age and contract probably. Although, I didn't trade Livers. Don't want to ideally. He probably isn't worth much to another team at the moment, but he could be a small part of our core and we watch him turn into Covington or something. Lots of hope for that team. I improved us for next year if it turns out like I say.

Also, if cap space doesn't work out, just punt that for a year.

[Sort]

I have no idea where the idea of Simons is coming from. Portland clearly wants to bring in more talent, not substitute out questionable talent, and they have tradable pieces that don't include Simons. I also see very little desire on Detroit's part to bring him in.

To reiterate another post, Noel is not fetching a second. He looked good a few minutes in two games this year? Pistons will buy him out and some team will bring him in needing big man depth, and then he will barely play. From this limited vantage point, his career looks over for the NBA. Pistons definitely need big man help defensively as the worst defensive team in the league, and our solution has been Diallo at the five.

Enough said.

[coolness]

Simons and Cade could play together a long time and possibly reach a Chauncey/Rip level. Even getting close to that level on a deep team would be pretty nice. I believe that Simons plays bad d and isn't a point guard. It doesn't matter much if the rest of the team is right. He wasn't even paid as much as he could've been. There must've been no competition for Portland on that one.

Right now, our bad bad bad team is sloppy fitting with guys who will want to make too much together for us to get a star or two good starters. They won't reach their potential. We have the chance to condense this bucket of slop without giving up a 1st. Sounds good to me. Only problem is if we don't actually have a chance at Simons. Right now, it seems we do to me. He is shooting 37.4% 3pt with 90% ft%. How could this make our team worse in any way? We could be in the playoffs next year if a few things go right including Simons. Not play-in but playoffs. I don't wanna watch Hayes/Ivey/Bey and old people like Bojan and Burks keep our team in the cellar. Playoffs is just fine.

[edmunder_prc]

Whichever team gets #1 won't trade Wemby - that's how a GM gets fired.


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A GM takes the guy (a lot of the time) that won't get them fired. You would think they take the guy that has the most upside but not all GMs get a 5 year window to suck.

[Crymson]

I think our defense looks its best when we're able to play Beefstew alongside Duren. We have our best rim protection and rebounding and the two started to develop chemistry on offense.

Looks best, maybe. Is not best, or good. Stewart is out of place on defense as a power forward; it emphasizes his poor footspeed and inability (thanks to his poor size and verticality) to play weakside rim defense. On offense, he's has been decidedly meh even when he's been hitting his shots; sinking open threes and doing a bit of attacking on closeouts is the absolute minimum that will be expected from the average perimeter player, and the threes stopped consistently falling about six weeks ago.

[Canadafan]

How about them Knickerbockers?
They're desperate to win. Bojan helps them. Reddish Toppin Hartenstein our #1draft pick back to us