Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

MotownMadness · Post #3121 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:47 pm

Was watching the new CBS mock draft and they posted this

Murray is the first D1 player since Durant with 20+ppg, 60+ 3pts and 60+ blks

FloridaMan78 · Post #3122 » by **FloridaMan78** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:15 pm

buzzkilloton wrote:
FloridaMan78 wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:

You're taking what people are comping as a ceiling for Murray being T.Harris and calling it his floor here. The comp Hollinger used from the article i posted here yesterday that ive seen many times is TJ.Warren. Interesting enough Warren was another ultra productive 6'8 tweener college player averaging 25 and 7 as a sopth.

I’m sorry I meant Tobias Harris production. 16ppg 7 rpg

It took Harris about 4 years to get to that. I think Murray comes in day 1 and hits those numbers.

Fair enough.

Yeah I wont be surprised to see 16 7. Kyle Kuzma averaged 16 and 6 as a rookie he has that similar tweener style game.

I think that’s something that the Kings should value and might be deciding factor.

They need someone that fits with Sabonis.

Murray is ideal. He’s young, good three point shooter, lengthy athletic defender, and will cost 6 mil per year for the next 4 years. There isn’t another forward like that available to them in this draft.

Or they take another guard and have to make another trade. Or trade for a player similar to Murray and pay 15-20 mil per year for them.

buzzkilloton · Post #3123 » by **buzzkilloton** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:59 pm

FloridaMan78 wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
FloridaMan78 wrote:
I’m sorry I meant Tobias Harris production. 16ppg 7 rpg

It took Harris about 4 years to get to that. I think Murray comes in day 1 and hits those numbers.

Fair enough.

Yeah I wont be surprised to see 16 7. Kyle Kuzma averaged 16 and 6 as a rookie he has that similar tweener style game.

I think that’s something that the Kings should value and might be deciding factor.

They need someone that fits with Sabonis.

Murray is ideal. He’s young, good three point shooter, lengthy athletic defender, and will cost 6 mil per year for the next 4 years. There isn’t another forward like that available to them in this draft.

Or they take another guard and have to make another trade. Or trade for a player similar to Murray and pay 15-20 mil per year for them.

This is exactly why the Kings are open to trading the pick hes a bad fit. That said if no deal is made you dont pass up on the best player on the board at pick 4 in the draft. You take Ivey and move one of the three guards later its not the end of the world.

zeebneeb · Post #3124 » by **zeebneeb** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:12 pm

MotownMadness wrote:Was watching the new CBS mock draft and they posted this

Murray is the first D1 player since Durant with 20+ppg, 60+ 3pts and 60+ blks

Nothing matters. Didn't you hear? Murray is slow, flat-footed, and has the ceiling of Tobias Harris even though his game doesn't resemble his at all.

Get on board the "hype anyone but Murray" train man.

mattao313 · Post #3125 » by **mattao313** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:18 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Was watching the new CBS mock draft and they posted this

Murray is the first D1 player since Durant with 20+ppg, 60+ 3pts and 60+ blks
Nothing matters. Didn't you hear? Murray is slow, flat-footed, and has the ceiling of Tobias Harris even though his game doesn't resemble his at all.

Get on board the "hype anyone but Murray" train man.

He definitely more like Tobias Harris than Al horford like you said

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zeebneeb · Post #3126 » by **zeebneeb** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:23 pm

mattao313 wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Was watching the new CBS mock draft and they posted this

Nothing matters. Didn't you hear? Murray is slow, flat-footed, and has the ceiling of Tobias Harris even though his game doesn't resemble his at all.

Get on board the "hype anyone but Murray" train man.
He definitely more like Tobias Harris than Al horford like you said

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Nope, I disagree. He is the reincarnation of the still living Horford.

I stand by this, firmly.

mattao313 · Post #3127 » by **mattao313** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:26 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:Nothing matters. Didn't you hear? Murray is slow, flat-footed, and has the ceiling of Tobias Harris even though his game doesn't resemble his at all.

Get on board the "hype anyone but Murray" train man.
He definitely more like Tobias Harris than Al horford like you said

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Nope, I disagree. He is the reincarnation of the still living Horford.

I stand by this, firmly.

Yes he a the reincarnation of a traditional big man with little perimeter skill... Yeah don't see it

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zeebneeb · Post #3128 » by **zeebneeb** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:28 pm

mattao313 wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:
mattao313 wrote:He definitely more like Tobias Harris than Al horford like you said

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Nope, I disagree. He is the reincarnation of the still living Horford.

I stand by this, firmly.
Yes he a the reincarnation of a traditional big man with little perimeter skill... Yeah don't see it

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I don't see why we are even talking about a player who is destined to be the worst lottery pick this year.

Who cares.

Ivey and a resigned Grant ahoy!

DNice68 · Post #3129 » by **DNice68** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:01 pm

joedumars1 wrote:Ivey not going to be a winner. He might put up huge numbers tho

If that’s the case, the Kings won’t take him.

buzzkilloton · Post #3130 » by **buzzkilloton** » Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:19 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
mattao313 wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:Nope, I disagree. He is the reincarnation of the still living Horford.

I stand by this, firmly.
Yes he a the reincarnation of a traditional big man with little perimeter skill... Yeah don't see it

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I don't see why we are even talking about a player who is destined to be the worst lottery pick this year.

Who cares.

Ivey and a resigned Grant ahoy!

Sorry you cant keep Grant we need to trade him to get Ivey

zeebneeb · Post #3131 » by **zeebneeb** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:50 am

buzzkilloton wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:
mattao313 wrote:Yes he a the reincarnation of a traditional big man with little perimeter skill... Yeah don't see it

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I don't see why we are even talking about a player who is destined to be the worst lottery pick this year.

Who cares.

Ivey and a resigned Grant ahoy!

Sorry you cant keep Grant we need to trade him to get Ivey

That is my personal nightmare. Give up an asset that could get you an additional pick, to grab the one player I absolutely do not want.

I mean Grant would be gone, but it would introduce who I think would be a horrible fit with Cade.

:lol:

I think this years draft is going to drive me insane.

buzzkilloton · Post #3132 » by **buzzkilloton** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:01 am

zeebneeb wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:I don't see why we are even talking about a player who is destined to be the worst lottery pick this year.

Who cares.

Ivey and a resigned Grant ahoy!

Sorry you cant keep Grant we need to trade him to get Ivey
That is my personal nightmare. Give up an asset that could get you an additional pick, to grab the one player I absolutely do not want.

I mean Grant would be gone, but it would introduce who I think would be a horrible fit with Cade.

I think this years draft is going to drive me insane.

Well glad some posters dont like Ivey. As we have some posters who dont like Murray as well. Need to keep it interesting around here we cant agree on everything.

mattyj · Post #3133 » by **mattyj** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:29 am

edmunder_prc wrote:Id rather take Mathurin, then Dyson, then Murray.

The last two Aussie league guys, Ball and Giddey, looked just fine with some time in the NBA. So that puts me more at ease with Dyson. The jump seems doable and actually helpful to play higher talent guys makes their passing skills more valuable. I dont like his shooting with the Ignite.

Mathurin has a lot of talent, high level athleticism and can shoot. Looks like a fit next to Cade.

Sharpe I have no idea - hopefully he played in front of Weaver for half a day to show what he has against actual NBA talent level guys. If Weaver could have watched Hayes in a full scrimmage for a couple hours, no way he takes him.

Dyson didn't play in the NBL

he played in the NBL1 (next tier down) at 16 then went to the gleague ignite

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buzzkilloton · Post #3134 » by **buzzkilloton** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:20 am

My pre draft big board:

tier1 all nba potential
1.Smith
2.Chet
3.Paolo

tier2-potential all star
4.Ivey

tier3-high end role player with slight all star potential
5.Daniels
6.Mathurin

tier 4 young homerun swings
7.Sharpe
8.Duren

tier 5 solid starters
9.Murray
10.Sochan
11.Williams
12.Griffin
13.Davis

FloridaMan78 · Post #3135 » by **FloridaMan78** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:41 am

Looking at some updated mocks, they all have Murray going 4th. Word on the street is Vivek likes Murray. The Kings owner is hilarious.

Say what you want about that draft decision, this video shows he runs the show there.
Short version

Watch on YouTube

Long version

Watch on YouTube

MotownMadness · Post #3136 » by **MotownMadness** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:15 am

buzzkilloton wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:

Sorry you cant keep Grant we need to trade him to get Ivey
That is my personal nightmare. Give up an asset that could get you an additional pick, to grab the one player I absolutely do not want.

I mean Grant would be gone, but it would introduce who I think would be a horrible fit with Cade.

I think this years draft is going to drive me insane.

Well glad some posters dont like Ivey. As we have some posters who dont like Murray as well. Need to keep it interesting around here we cant agree on everything.

Thats why i like to do those big boards and see where everyone stands beefore hindsight. Ivey was a overwhelming favorite by fans on here.

Post #3137 » by **theBigLip** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:57 am

My guess is that the Kings trade out last minute and not to us. Only way I do trade up is if Chet falls to 4

bstein14 · Post #3138 » by **bstein14** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:32 pm

Been a busy last two weeks at work for me... The draft kind of just snuck up didn't realize it was just a few days away. Last year it felt like it took forever to get here with that #1 pick and all the trade rumors leading up to the draft.

This year I'm already 99% in that we're ending up with Ivey or Murray and feel like there's a small outside chance something else happens.

rmfc · Post #3139 » by **rmfc** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:42 pm

bstein14 wrote:This year I'm already 99% in that we're ending up with Ivey or Murray and feel like there's a small outside chance something else happens.

Agreed. Ivey or Murray will most probably end up becoming a Pistons player on draft night (with Mathurin being the only other possibility).

zeebneeb · Post #3140 » by **zeebneeb** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:02 pm

theBigLip wrote:My guess is that the Kings trade out last minute and not to us. Only way I do trade up is if Chet falls to 4

That would be the typical short-sighted horror show that is the Kings org. Murray, at that pick, fits that team perfectly, so they'll trade down, past us and not only not get Ivey, but lose out on Murray who they like as well.

I expect them to do the exact wrong thing. There is a reason they haven't made the playoffs since the birth of Christ.