Christian Wood didn’t want to leave Detroit

ByeByeDre · Post #321 » by **ByeByeDre** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:02 am

thesack12 wrote:
On a related note, when are we going to establish that the only things worth discussing about the entire 2020 draft is solely talk about Hayes/Bey/Stewart/Lee?

Hayes is a cripple now, so we should be allowed one replacement. Tyrese Haliburton it is.......

thesack12 · Post #322 » by **thesack12** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:54 am

Piston Pete wrote:We can no longer discuss anything Piston-related unless it’s happening real-time.

Lol, game threads only

thesack12 · Post #323 » by **thesack12** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:55 am

ByeByeDre wrote:
thesack12 wrote:
On a related note, when are we going to establish that the only things worth discussing about the entire 2020 draft is solely talk about Hayes/Bey/Stewart/Lee?

Hayes is a cripple now, so we should be allowed one replacement. Tyrese Haliburton it is.......

Haha, I'll allow it.

Some others on here though, aren't super keen on talking about dudes that Detroit could of had.

Pharaoh · Post #324 » by **Pharaoh** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:20 am

I can believe that you think that line up doesn't make it as a lower seed!

Look at what Grant is doing essentially with very little else around him. Then pair him with Wood!

You don't think those 2 carry these guys to wins? FMD Blake did it in his own 2 years ago and we're better than we were then cause we actually make a **** effort!

Seems to be a argument for Weaver signing Wood only to trade him a month later to net a pick, prospect or something...

After a month of on court play does anyone think we'd trade a dude putting up 20/10 while we're at least .500?

If you believe Weaver isn't a complete idiot (Grant, Jackson, Bey, Stewart are evidence) then there's something more here than "GM didn't want him!"

The FO & coaching staff had 5 months to go over every single person on the roster.

Only 4 were brought back - 1 of whom it's damn near impossible to trade, 2 are cheap af and 1 is Uncle Arn's "kid"

Piston Pete wrote:Right.

If your argument for throwing away Wood is that if we kept him, we’d win more....then why go after and sign Grant?

Grant is older than Wood.
Signing Grant created a logjam at SF/PF
Grant is good. Why was signing him not hurting the tank?

And we could be the worst team in the league. It won’t guarantee us a top pick.

And even if we get a top pick, it won’t guarantee us a superstar that will lead us to an NBA Championship.

So at the end of the day, we threw away a young, KNOWN commodity for a chance at a shiny, new UNKNOWN commodity.

And I still maintain this lineup would be bottom-5 in the league:

Hayes / Rose
Jackson / Svi
Grant / Bey
Blake / Sekou
Wood / Stewart / Okafor

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El Chivo · Post #325 » by **El Chivo** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:04 pm

His defense is atrocious.

Post #326 » by **Snakebites** » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:11 pm

Piston Pete wrote:What is the board’s censoring policy?

Might as well shut down this board in-between games.

Who’s censoring?

Piston Pete · Post #327 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:20 pm

The protections on the 1st rounder we gave to Houston (along with Wood)

Pistons future 1st rounders per RealGM:

2021 - 1-16 Own; 17-30 to HOU [may be swapped by HOU for BRK]

2022 - 1-16 Own; 17-30 to HOU if not already settled

2023 - 1-18 Own; 19-30 to HOU if not already settled

2024 - 1-18 Own; 19-30 to HOU if not already settled

2025 - 1-13 Own; 14-30 to HOU if not already settled

2026 - 1-11 Own; 12-30 to HOU if not already settled

2027 - 1-9 Own; 10-30 to HOU if not already settled

Piston Pete · Post #328 » by **Piston Pete** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:34 pm

From Twitterverse, per James Edwards:

At the deadline last year, Houston offered Detroit Isaiah Hartenstein and two second-round picks for Wood. The Pistons passed and Wood turned into one of the more intriguing bigs in the NBA.

Bummer, but that deal actually would have been better for us.

We could have still did the Ariza/pick deal like we did.

flow · Post #329 » by **flow** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:42 pm

He makes his return to Detroit tonight.

The Athletic published this article this morning. Maybe someone who subscribes to the Athletic (if anyone) can tell us if there's anything interesting in it.

https://theathletic.com/2329744/2021/01/22/how-christian-wood-went-from-15th-man-with-pistons-to-a-face-of-the-rockets/

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Post #330 » by **Snakebites** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:51 pm

flow wrote:He makes his return to Detroit tonight.

The Athletic published this article this morning. Maybe someone who subscribes to the Athletic (if anyone) can tell us if there's anything interesting in it.

https://theathletic.com/2329744/2021/01/22/how-christian-wood-went-from-15th-man-with-pistons-to-a-face-of-the-rockets/

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Not from the article, I don’t subscribe, but Wood won’t be playing today.

I don’t think it’s a long term injury, but enough that the coach said it’s “not looking good” in terms of playing today.

thesack12 · Post #331 » by **thesack12** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:51 pm

Piston Pete wrote:From Twitterverse, per James Edwards:

At the deadline last year, Houston offered Detroit Isaiah Hartenstein and two second-round picks for Wood. The Pistons passed and Wood turned into one of the more intriguing bigs in the NBA.

Bummer, but that deal actually would have been better for us.

We could have still did the Ariza/pick deal like we did.

Well, if that would have went through, I for one would have hated that trade at the time. But, today with the luxury of knowing how things played out, that trade would have been a lot better than what Detroit ended up getting for him.

Piston Pete · Post #332 » by **Piston Pete** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:17 pm

Still amazes me we traded Wood/1st for Stewart

**nothing against Stewart. I like him. But this is terrible value-wise.

edmunder_prc · Post #333 » by **edmunder_prc** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:14 pm

thesack12 wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:From Twitterverse, per James Edwards:

At the deadline last year, Houston offered Detroit Isaiah Hartenstein and two second-round picks for Wood. The Pistons passed and Wood turned into one of the more intriguing bigs in the NBA.

Bummer, but that deal actually would have been better for us.

We could have still did the Ariza/pick deal like we did.

Well, if that would have went through, I for one would have hated that trade at the time. But, today with the luxury of knowing how things played out, that trade would have been a lot better than what Detroit ended up getting for him.

At that point Wood had not broken out yet. Which makes me further question: What is going on?

If you don't want Wood, why not trade him for something?
If you want Wood, why don't you sign him to a long term deal when its obvious to anyone watching the games that he is extremely talented?

I think one thing Weaver has going for him is that all the trades/cuts/waives/stretches makes it difficult to understand what even happened. If every move was very clear, he would look much worse.

Just a basic move like Syverdis is pretty bad. Why pay him, have him take up a roster spot and never play him?
Is Plumlee really that much more important to the team than Dedmon? Did the Pistons gain anything from that move?

Piston Pete · Post #334 » by **Piston Pete** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:18 pm

The Dedmon for Snell/Thomas deal makes no sense either.

Snell is on an expiring contract.

Dedmon had an extra year on his.....

So we gave a large expiring away for Dedmon, just to stretch-waive him.

ByeByeDre · Post #335 » by **ByeByeDre** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:07 pm

Piston Pete wrote:Still amazes me we traded Wood/1st for Stewart

**nothing against Stewart. I like him. But this is terrible value-wise.

1000 percent.

ByeByeDre · Post #336 » by **ByeByeDre** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:14 pm

Piston Pete wrote:The Dedmon for Snell/Thomas deal makes no sense either.

Snell is on an expiring contract.

Dedmon had an extra year on his.....

So we gave a large expiring away for Dedmon, just to stretch-waive him.

We HAD to eat Dedmon’s $15 million so we could have the privilege of forking out another $90 million for Plumlee and Grant. The two of them, plus Blake, gives Casey blockers to prevent meaningful minutes for Bey, Sekou and Stewart. Because that’s what rebuilding teams do......

Let’s do the Kennard trade next......

vege · Post #337 » by **vege** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:21 pm

So, Christian Wood is #3 among centers in the league in RPM. #1 and #2 are obviously Jokic and Embiid.

He is also #3 in ORPM and #3 in RPM Wins. For people who like to say he's a bad defender, he is #9 in DBPM.

The guy is an all star and might make an All NBA team this season, and Weaver decided to let him go.

Sort · Post #338 » by **Sort** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:24 pm

Folks need to get over losing Wood. It didn't happen. That said, I'm hopeful he can keep helping Houston win some games. I'm not convinced you can win anything in the playoffs with Wood as one of your top three players, but I'm also hoping I'm wrong. I'd love to see him keep improving...

Piston Pete · Post #339 » by **Piston Pete** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:39 pm

Sort wrote:Folks need to get over losing Wood. It didn't happen. That said, I'm hopeful he can keep helping Houston win some games. I'm not convinced you can win anything in the playoffs with Wood as one of your top three players, but I'm also hoping I'm wrong. I'd love to see him keep improving...

it DID happen

vic · Post #340 » by **vic** » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:28 am

As I said before this even happened when I assumed we were keeping Wood: letting Wood go sends a bad message to the remaining players on the team that there is something other than hard work & talent that will be rewarded on this team (nepotism and politics, cough cough). It also leaves a sick feeling of bad leadership and erodes confidence that leadership is capable of making winning decisions.

It's a lot more to come back from than people may think. Sometimes you only get one shot. This could have been a very strategic year.

I'm hoping Weaver gets another chance to stack 2 simultaneously improving all star talents the same age on the same team and then add that to a top 5 pick. That's how you change a franchise.