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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3241 » by SamFlow » Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:35 am

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Rodman wrote:Not a fan of ivy although if they select him I'm going to root for him.. Not a fan of Murray doesn't create offense off the dribble. Take Sharpe and wait until he matures. No one expects them to make playoffs next year. Take best player and be patient.


The irony here is that Sharpe is a guy who couldn't even beat high school defenders off the dribble. You want an off-the-dribble guy take Ivey. You want the most polished all-around game take Murray. You want a guy who looks best on a combine measurables report but doesn't play basketball take Sharpe.


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Post#3242 » by Rodman » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:34 am

What Sharpe can do is score and in bunches. My point about Murray and Ivy is that neither one of them consistently scores on dribble pull-up jump shots. The Greats of the game can shoot a jump shot off a dribble. Michael Kobe Dwyane Wade Isaiah Devin Booker Bradley Beal all shoot jump shots off the dribble. All I'm saying is Murray and Ivy do not.Sharpe does and is a 3 level scorer. Sharpe is a go to type, put the ball in his hands and make a play when needed. Neither Murray or Ivey seems to be that type of player.
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Post#3243 » by FloridaMan78 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:26 am

6’6” 209lbs with a 7’2” wingspan 8’9” standing reach 39” vertical :o

Kid was 5’10” 160 4 years ago lol.
Kid is a freak of nature. People are gonna regret passing on him. Great two way player.

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Post#3244 » by Manocad » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:59 am

Rodman wrote:What Sharpe can do is score and in bunches. My point about Murray and Ivy is that neither one of them consistently scores on dribble pull-up jump shots. The Greats of the game can shoot a jump shot off a dribble. Michael Kobe Dwyane Wade Isaiah Devin Booker Bradley Beal all shoot jump shots off the dribble. All I'm saying is Murray and Ivy do not.Sharpe does and is a 3 level scorer. Sharpe is a go to type, put the ball in his hands and make a play when needed. Neither Murray or Ivey seems to be that type of player.

When did Sharpe score in bunches?
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3245 » by Kalamazoo317 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:30 pm

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Rodman wrote:What Sharpe can do is score and in bunches. My point about Murray and Ivy is that neither one of them consistently scores on dribble pull-up jump shots. The Greats of the game can shoot a jump shot off a dribble. Michael Kobe Dwyane Wade Isaiah Devin Booker Bradley Beal all shoot jump shots off the dribble. All I'm saying is Murray and Ivy do not.Sharpe does and is a 3 level scorer. Sharpe is a go to type, put the ball in his hands and make a play when needed. Neither Murray or Ivey seems to be that type of player.

When did Sharpe score in bunches?


High school. Wonder if Ivey and Murray scored in bunches in high school too?
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3246 » by Manocad » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:04 pm

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Rodman wrote:What Sharpe can do is score and in bunches. My point about Murray and Ivy is that neither one of them consistently scores on dribble pull-up jump shots. The Greats of the game can shoot a jump shot off a dribble. Michael Kobe Dwyane Wade Isaiah Devin Booker Bradley Beal all shoot jump shots off the dribble. All I'm saying is Murray and Ivy do not.Sharpe does and is a 3 level scorer. Sharpe is a go to type, put the ball in his hands and make a play when needed. Neither Murray or Ivey seems to be that type of player.

When did Sharpe score in bunches?


High school. Wonder if Ivey and Murray scored in bunches in high school too?

Yeah, I'm just curious where the evidence of this "scoring in bunches" came from.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3247 » by Canadafan » Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:04 pm

Rodman wrote:What Sharpe can do is score and in bunches. My point about Murray and Ivy is that neither one of them consistently scores on dribble pull-up jump shots. The Greats of the game can shoot a jump shot off a dribble. Michael Kobe Dwyane Wade Isaiah Devin Booker Bradley Beal all shoot jump shots off the dribble. All I'm saying is Murray and Ivy do not.Sharpe does and is a 3 level scorer. Sharpe is a go to type, put the ball in his hands and make a play when needed. Neither Murray or Ivey seems to be that type of player.


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Post#3248 » by Kalamazoo317 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:08 pm

From what I've heard, Mathurin has that take over the game and score in bunches potential. He's my guy at #5 right now. I think he has that "growth mindset." ;)
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3249 » by The Moose » Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:40 am

I missed this earlier by ESPN

11. New York Knicks
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Age: 18.5

Coming off a disappointing season, the Knicks desperately need to upgrade at point guard but lack great options to choose from. Trading this pick for an immediate contributor -- i.e., Malcolm Brogdon -- could be attractive here. If they decide to keep the pick, Duren offers a natural succession plan for Mitchell Robinson, who is an unrestricted free agent. He's arguably the most physically gifted big man in the draft, at 6-10, 250 pounds with a 7-5 wingspan, and has a ready-made role from day one as a lob-catching shot-blocker with the huge catch radius he displays, the excellent timing he shows as a rim protector and the way he uses verticality to his advantage. Duren also has significant room for growth in terms of skill level as the game slows down for him as he enters his 20s. Detroit Pistons GM Troy Weaver is one of Duren's biggest fans in the NBA, sources say, and could very well look to target him in a draft night trade if he continued to slide down the board, especially to Charlotte, which has been identified as a possible trading partner for the Pistons in a potential Gordon Hayward deal.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3250 » by buzzkilloton » Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:45 am

The Moose wrote:I missed this earlier by ESPN

11. New York Knicks
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Age: 18.5

l[/b].


I'd do 2 years of Hayward for Duren. Hell maybe we could get lucky and he stays healthy a full season.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3251 » by Kalamazoo317 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:37 pm

If we get Hayward and #13 in exchange for cap space, I suddenly feel a lot better about the Grant deal.

But to me it feels about as realistic as getting #7 from Portland did.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3252 » by bstein14 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:54 pm

Jalen Duren has been my main sleeper pick because he's just a physical specimen. Someone I watched video on at #5 but he's just not there yet.... too big of a risk at #5. If we could get another pick and pick him up it signals no Ayton for sure, but he'd be a solid guy to give 20 minutes a night to off the bench behind Stew. He's got all the physical tools its just a matter of a few years of working on improving skillset. 90% of his highlights on offense is catching lobs, transition dunks, and getting the ball in the post and dunking on people so there isn't really much to be seen on offensive skillset. He's just abusing guys inside with his strength and athleticism.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3253 » by flow » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:05 pm

bstein14 wrote:Jalen Duren has been my main sleeper pick because he's just a physical specimen. Someone I watched video on at #5 but he's just not there yet.... too big of a risk at #5. If we could get another pick and pick him up it signals no Ayton for sure, but he'd be a solid guy to give 20 minutes a night to off the bench behind Stew. He's got all the physical tools its just a matter of a few years of working on improving skillset. 90% of his highlights on offense is catching lobs, transition dunks, and getting the ball in the post and dunking on people so there isn't really much to be seen on offensive skillset. He's just abusing guys inside with his strength and athleticism.


Not only does your post give me Andre Drummond flashback cold sweats, but he's actually comp'd to Drummond here.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jalen-duren/

I'll pass.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3254 » by zeebneeb » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:06 pm

I can't imagine Duren being there at 13, and even then, wouldn't Charlotte just take him as they need a center anyway?

In any event, all the speculation about the draft is all done tonight thankfully, and then we can all move on towards the free agent speculation for a few weeks.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3255 » by The Moose » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:12 pm

flow wrote:
bstein14 wrote:Jalen Duren has been my main sleeper pick because he's just a physical specimen. Someone I watched video on at #5 but he's just not there yet.... too big of a risk at #5. If we could get another pick and pick him up it signals no Ayton for sure, but he'd be a solid guy to give 20 minutes a night to off the bench behind Stew. He's got all the physical tools its just a matter of a few years of working on improving skillset. 90% of his highlights on offense is catching lobs, transition dunks, and getting the ball in the post and dunking on people so there isn't really much to be seen on offensive skillset. He's just abusing guys inside with his strength and athleticism.


Not only does your post give me Andre Drummond flashback cold sweats, but he's actually comp'd to Drummond here.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jalen-duren/

I'll pass.


hes not like Drummond, and I'll just leave it at that lol
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3256 » by bstein14 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:19 pm

Watching a young Duren would be a but like watching a young Drummond. Tons of upside.... but you'd hope that Duren has a higher bball IQ and is brought up in a better system of players playing the right way not trying to rip rebounds from teammates. I have zero idea on his mental makeup just exciting to bring a player in with that athleticism.

Rookie Drummond was the most excited I've been watching any Pistons rookies the last decade until Cade came along.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3257 » by MotownMadness » Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:14 pm

Thoughts on EJ Liddell's potential?
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3258 » by MotownMadness » Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:17 pm

The Moose wrote:
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bstein14 wrote:Jalen Duren has been my main sleeper pick because he's just a physical specimen. Someone I watched video on at #5 but he's just not there yet.... too big of a risk at #5. If we could get another pick and pick him up it signals no Ayton for sure, but he'd be a solid guy to give 20 minutes a night to off the bench behind Stew. He's got all the physical tools its just a matter of a few years of working on improving skillset. 90% of his highlights on offense is catching lobs, transition dunks, and getting the ball in the post and dunking on people so there isn't really much to be seen on offensive skillset. He's just abusing guys inside with his strength and athleticism.


Not only does your post give me Andre Drummond flashback cold sweats, but he's actually comp'd to Drummond here.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jalen-duren/

I'll pass.


hes not like Drummond, and I'll just leave it at that lol

They just have alot of the same looks to them and share some of the same strength and weaknesses. Both look like grown men with huge 7'6 wingspans but hopefully Duren has a stronger motor.

I've been saying he gives me Drummond vibes all year so seeing that as a comp isn't to shocking, although no two players are gonna be exactly alike.
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Post#3259 » by MotownMadness » Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:20 pm

Also dont forget Weaver stated when he first got here how much he loves Centers. So hearing news or going after guys like Ayton and Duren would fit the bill.
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Re: Your 2022 NBA Draft Prospect 

Post#3260 » by ComboGuardCity » Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:22 pm

bstein14 wrote:Watching a young Duren would be a but like watching a young Drummond. Tons of upside.... but you'd hope that Duren has a higher bball IQ and is brought up in a better system of players playing the right way not trying to rip rebounds from teammates. I have zero idea on his mental makeup just exciting to bring a player in with that athleticism.

Rookie Drummond was the most excited I've been watching any Pistons rookies the last decade until Cade came along.

Probably was the most exciting Rookie since Grant Hill if we’re being honest. I was more hyped on Drummond than Tayshaun after season 1

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