RIP TO NJ (REAL RUMOR!!!!)

DetroitPistons · Post #361 » by **DetroitPistons** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:02 pm

vege wrote:
DetroitPistons wrote: petro's contract isn't even that bad.

Yes it is THAT BAD, i guess people haven't seen Petro play. Go to NJ and Denver boards and ask about the guy, he is not NBA material and he is a 7 footer, teams are starving for defensive 7 footers and no one want the guy, not even the team who just gave him that insane contract.

I understand he sucks. i don't think any pistons fans are even expecting him to play. his 3 or so million per year is not crippling at all. its chump change compared rip's. also, its about more than just money. rip is causing a lot of drama and rotation problems plus its not like were gonna compete any time soon so i don't really care about his production to be honest. we basically turn a 12.5mil contract into a 3mil contract plus we get a 2nd. sign me up please.

vege · Post #362 » by **vege** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:04 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:
I understand he sucks. i don't think any pistons fans are even expecting him to play. his 3 or so million per year is not crippling at all. its chump change compared rip's. also, its about more than just money. rip is causing a lot of drama and rotation problems plus its not like were gonna compete any time soon so i don't really care about his production to be honest. we basically turn a 12.5mil contract into a 3mil contract plus we get a 2nd. sign me up please.

Fair enough, that's not exactly how i see the whole thing but i can respect that opinion.

RTM · Post #363 » by **RTM** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:24 pm

ajaX82 wrote:If Denver screws this up, while getting an insane return mind you, I will be beyond furious

+100,000,000

RTM · Post #364 » by **RTM** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:26 pm

vege wrote:
DetroitPistons wrote: petro's contract isn't even that bad.

Yes it is THAT BAD, i guess people haven't seen Petro play. Go to NJ and Denver boards and ask about the guy, he is not NBA material and he is a 7 footer, teams are starving for defensive 7 footers and no one want the guy, not even the team who just gave him that insane contract.

It's bad, when you look at similar "dump" deal (Maggs and Hedo this summer), the value is about right (big expiring and smaller, equal length deal). We'd be stupid not to accept, Rip is MUCH harder to move.

Thankfully, it seems Joe has realized it. But stupid Denver....

Spider156 · Post #365 » by **Spider156** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:28 pm

I've read rumors of a pick coming to us but not a report. I don't think we're getting a pick. I think we're just trading Rip and someone else for Murphy and Petro.

I think everyone said yes and now they're just waiting on Denver. If Denver doesn't do this, they are the biggest losers in the NBA. They must be crazy in not accepting Favors, 2 first rounds and role players. They're basically set and should be close to finishing their "rebuild" after the next Draft. On the other hand, I think they haven't said yes yet because they have a new FO and are just making sure they're doing the right thing. Nets instantly get a good chance to grab a good spot in the playoffs if they do this trade.

DetroitPistons · Post #366 » by **DetroitPistons** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:37 pm

^ broussard has reported that we will get a 2nd rounder.

vege · Post #367 » by **vege** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:40 pm

RTM wrote:
It's bad, when you look at similar "dump" deal (Maggs this summer),

Maggs is not even close to be the player Rip is and Petro is not even close to be the player Bell is, also Bell have a 10000 times better contract than Petro.

The only difference is Murphy is a good player while Gadz is garbage.

Spider156 · Post #368 » by **Spider156** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:45 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:^ broussard has reported that we will get a 2nd rounder.

Can you give me link?

kellmellus50 · Post #369 » by **kellmellus50** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:46 pm

if detroit send 1 player and gets 2 back they would have to cut someone who is that person?

Warspite · Post #370 » by **Warspite** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:46 pm

No doubt if teh Nets do this trade thats more ping pong balls for us. What if this team goes on a big run after this trade? Murphy has been all but kicked off the Nets. He was sent home with flu like symptoms 3 weeks ago. I wonder if hes washed up or if he is a knuckle head or does he just need a fresh start. Seems kind of wierd that Avery Johnson doesnt like a 6'10" 3pt shooting PF or doesnt know how to use one.

If Murphy is healthy and hes not a cancer this pretty much spells the end of Monroes rookie yr. Those 2 will get extended mins once they learn the system. If Petro is as bad as Vege says then I expect him to take almost all of Monroes mins and become a starter soon. Murphy can rebound and he would maybe be the best 3pt shooter on the team. Since no Piston plays any defense he fits right at home.

coordinator0 · Post #371 » by **coordinator0** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:47 pm

Spider156 wrote:
DetroitPistons wrote:^ broussard has reported that we will get a 2nd rounder.

Can you give me link?

http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard

@Chris_Broussard
If deal goes through, Pistons will get a 2nd round pick from NJ for taking Johan Petro

Spider156 · Post #372 » by **Spider156** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:54 pm

kellmellus50 wrote:if detroit send 1 player and gets 2 back they would have to cut someone who is that person?

I think it's Summers. He's going nowhere on this team. At least White has his athleticism to consider. All Summers does is chucks up shots left and right.

srt4b · Post #373 » by **srt4b** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:01 pm

Billups, RIP, & Melo are going to be fun to watch.

bstein14 · Post #374 » by **bstein14** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:08 pm

Man I really just want this deal to go thru... Would be horrible if we got this close to finally moving Rip and then we were Stuck with him if Denver backs out.

princeofpalace · Post #375 » by **princeofpalace** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:22 pm

You know what, if DEN is relunctant to move Anthony I hope that the just go for Rip themselves. We know that inquired about him this summer, if Melo wants Rip and DEN is hesitant please just trade KMART for Hamilton and call it a day....

Piston Pete · Post #376 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:34 pm

Agreed.

Trade them Hamilton and one of (Maxiell, Wilcox, CV, whoever they want) for Martin. We'll throw in whatever 2nd rounder they want. We'll even offer to take back JR or Balkman if they want.

Post #377 » by **ajaX82** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:34 pm

You guys think Rip plays tonight in Chicago? Him not playing would be a great great sign

DetroitPistons · Post #378 » by **DetroitPistons** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:47 pm

^ i think he plays with the way this deal is going. how awkward would it be to hold him out a game and then have this deal fall apart? lol.

and the rip to denver idea wouldn't happen. i think the only reason melo would sign an extension with NJ is because they are moving to brooklyn. theres no way denver takes on rips contract with their financial situations. they are trying to dump salary.

Piston Pete · Post #379 » by **Piston Pete** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:47 pm

Why don't we throw in Wilcox/McGrady/Bynum for Harris?

Make our part of the deal:

Rip
Wilcox
McGrady
Bynum

for

Murphy
Petro
Harris

I'm starting to think I would love to get Harris in this deal (in addition to Murphy/Petro, or just Murphy) in order to ship him off to Dallas or Portland for more pieces.

DetroitPistons · Post #380 » by **DetroitPistons** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:49 pm

^ i would do that only if we were certain to trade harris to portland or dallas. im don't really like him that much.