Free Agency

[flow]

Thanks, I hate it.

And your preference of what we should do w $60M+ in cap space?

I mean, KCP has to be our #1 target. Or at least try and pry away MPJ.

KCP? Are you serious? He's a good vet, yes. But offensively, he's aged into little more than a stand-in-the-corner guard who doesn't shoot all that well anymore. Every now & then he gets hot, but that's it.

Yes, he can defend. But we need more than that out of a #1 target.

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[JennetteMcCurdy]

I'm starting to think we should wait until late in free agency to take advantage of all the teams who're over the second apron and desperate to unload cap. Though I don't mind taking a shot at a few big names like OG and Claxton in the early days too. Later on, we can always throw 2 year deals with team options to overpay vets short-term.

Agreed - three and four year megadeals to non-stars are negative assets. Only take one or two year deals. Great for trading.

And I think many are underestimating the power of cap space this summer - as long as we don’t do something like, say, trade for Joe Harris before free agency begins, we should be able to get good picks with unwanted players. Lots of teams in financial trouble.

[Mr Peanut]

Imagine if after all of these years of talking about our cap space and back patting for preserving financial flexibility, that we go out and sign Tobias Harris and KCP this summer and run back the 2015-16 team.

[Canadafan]

https://sports.yahoo.com/76ers-aiming-to-pursue-a-familiar-path-this-offseason-trying-to-add-another-all-star-to-joel-embiid-tyrese-maxey-143720904.html

[MotownMadness]

https://sports.yahoo.com/76ers-aiming-to-pursue-a-familiar-path-this-offseason-trying-to-add-another-all-star-to-joel-embiid-tyrese-maxey-143720904.html

They'll have to settle for DeRozan or something

[Canadafan]

https://sports.yahoo.com/76ers-aiming-to-pursue-a-familiar-path-this-offseason-trying-to-add-another-all-star-to-joel-embiid-tyrese-maxey-143720904.html

They'll have to settle for DeRozan or something

Interesting they're saying OG could accept offers from other teams

[Snakebites]

Would be malpractice not to check in on OG even if it is a long shot.

Thats probably just OG/his agent playing the leverage game.

[theBigLip]

Would be malpractice not to check in on OG even if it is a long shot.

Thats probably just OG/his agent playing the leverage game.

I totally agree. Even if Philly or the Pistons don’t have a real chance, it benefits us both to play the game and drive up his salary. Maybe not this year, but next when going after free agents and NY is capped out.

[bstein14]

The reason its out there because OG's agent kicked the tires a bit and they know the Knicks are planning on offering less than a 5 year max deal.

[GreekAlex]

The reason its out there because OG's agent kicked the tires a bit and they know the Knicks are planning on offering less than a 5 year max deal.

Unfortunately, we can’t offer 5 but hopefully we can make the knicks uncomfortable.

[Laimbeer]

OG is not a max player. Giving him that would be a huge mistake.

[bstein14]

OG is not a max player. Giving him that would be a huge mistake.

Maybe for a team that can actually lure in FAs. OG is a 3rd best player on a good playoff team type of guy and he's a vet who plays both sides of the ball. For us offering him 4 years $180 and having him accept it would do far more good than bad IMO.

No one wants to play in Detroit unless they are going to get overpaid a little bit its an issue we will have until we change the perspective (like the Lions did... lots of NFL guys saying they'd love to play for Detroit).

$140 x 30% = $42 million starting out.

$39 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$41 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$43 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$45 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$168 million guaranteed + $12 million possible bonuses if team makes playoffs.

I'd have zero doubt in offering him a deal like that if NY balks at the idea of paying the man.

The thing is though, we know there's no chance that New York just lets him walk after trading what they traded to get him.

[theBigLip]

OG is not a max player. Giving him that would be a huge mistake.

Maybe for a team that can actually lure in FAs. OG is a 3rd best player on a good playoff team type of guy and he's a vet who plays both sides of the ball. For us offering him 4 years $180 and having him accept it would do far more good than bad IMO.

No one wants to play in Detroit unless they are going to get overpaid a little bit its an issue we will have until we change the perspective (like the Lions did... lots of NFL guys saying they'd love to play for Detroit).

$140 x 30% = $42 million starting out.

$39 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$41 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$43 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$45 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$168 million guaranteed + $12 million possible bonuses if team makes playoffs.

I'd have zero doubt in offering him a deal like that if NY balks at the idea of paying the man.

The thing is though, we know there's no chance that New York just lets him walk after trading what they traded to get him.

It’s an overpay but we do it. Force NY’s hand. If we get him, great. If not, NY has to overpay.

[Laimbeer]

OG is not a max player. Giving him that would be a huge mistake.

Maybe for a team that can actually lure in FAs. OG is a 3rd best player on a good playoff team type of guy and he's a vet who plays both sides of the ball. For us offering him 4 years $180 and having him accept it would do far more good than bad IMO.

No one wants to play in Detroit unless they are going to get overpaid a little bit its an issue we will have until we change the perspective (like the Lions did... lots of NFL guys saying they'd love to play for Detroit).

$140 x 30% = $42 million starting out.

$39 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$41 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$43 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$45 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$168 million guaranteed + $12 million possible bonuses if team makes playoffs.

I'd have zero doubt in offering him a deal like that if NY balks at the idea of paying the man.

The thing is though, we know there's no chance that New York just lets him walk after trading what they traded to get him.

It’s an overpay but we do it. Force NY’s hand. If we get him, great. If not, NY has to overpay.

Why in the world would we care if New York overpays? It's too much for OG on any team. I'll be interested to see if he really lands the max, but I tend to doubt it. Similar situation to Mikal Bridges, imo.

[TPA]

Anunoby, Ingram, KAT... guys who are chronically injured and can barely scrape together 60 games/year. Ugh.

[theBigLip]

Maybe for a team that can actually lure in FAs. OG is a 3rd best player on a good playoff team type of guy and he's a vet who plays both sides of the ball. For us offering him 4 years $180 and having him accept it would do far more good than bad IMO.

No one wants to play in Detroit unless they are going to get overpaid a little bit its an issue we will have until we change the perspective (like the Lions did... lots of NFL guys saying they'd love to play for Detroit).

$140 x 30% = $42 million starting out.

$39 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$41 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$43 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$45 guaranteed + $3 million for making playoffs
$168 million guaranteed + $12 million possible bonuses if team makes playoffs.

I'd have zero doubt in offering him a deal like that if NY balks at the idea of paying the man.

The thing is though, we know there's no chance that New York just lets him walk after trading what they traded to get him.

It’s an overpay but we do it. Force NY’s hand. If we get him, great. If not, NY has to overpay.

Why in the world would we care if New York overpays? It's too much for OG on any team. I'll be interested to see if he really lands the max, but I tend to doubt it. Similar situation to Mikal Bridges, imo.

Pretty simple - the more they spend on OG, the less money they have to make other moves. We should have the mindset that we are competing against all teams all the time.

Of course, some will say it doesn’t matter since the teams are on different ends of the success spectrum, but a lot of little steps eventually start to have an impact.

[bstein14]

It’s an overpay but we do it. Force NY’s hand. If we get him, great. If not, NY has to overpay.

Why in the world would we care if New York overpays? It's too much for OG on any team. I'll be interested to see if he really lands the max, but I tend to doubt it. Similar situation to Mikal Bridges, imo.

Pretty simple - the more they spend on OG, the less money they have to make other moves. We should have the mindset that we are competing against all teams all the time.

Of course, some will say it doesn’t matter since the teams are on different ends of the success spectrum, but a lot of little steps eventually start to have an impact.

Or at least all EC teams. Its possible if they give Brunson and OG huge deals that down the road they don't have access to full MLE due to tax, or have to cut players for 2nd apron, etc. We've got the money to essentially make sure Indy and Philly have to max Siakam and OG and we should make sure they do or take their guy for free this summer.

[Canadafan]

Anunoby, Ingram, KAT... guys who are chronically injured and can barely scrape together 60 games/year. Ugh.

Yes I lean more towards the Mikal Bridges types who play every game. I need availability

[7r5ur]

Anunoby, Ingram, KAT... guys who are chronically injured and can barely scrape together 60 games/year. Ugh.

Yes I lean more towards the Mikal Bridges types who play every game. I need availability

We’re only getting the flawed guys. Mikal will fetch bigger offers than we can match from the likes of Houston or OKC.

I would absolutely offer OG the max. Him next to Ausar would be nasty, even just for 60 games.

[bstein14]

If you can get a good above average starter who plays both sides of the ball that's just entering their prime and all it costs you is $42 million in cap space and you're coming off a 14 win season you should probably do it.

Or you could give Tobias Harris $32 million per for three years and re-up James Wiseman for $10 million.