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Post#361 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:05 am

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entr ... 3/15844497

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)
The Detroit Pistons struck first Wednesday, getting commitments from their top two free-agent targets, Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.

Gordon agreed to a five-year, $55 million deal, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Villanueva also agreed to a five-year deal in the $35 million range -- or slightly above the anticipated mid-level exception of $5.6 million per year -- a person involved in those discussions said. The exact figures won't be known until the deals are signed on July 8, after the league and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season. After firing coach Michael Curry Tuesday, Pistons president Joe Dumars acted swiftly in targeting Gordon and Villanueva with the salary-cap space produced by the controversial decision to trade Chauncey Billups to the Nuggets for Allen Iverson and his $22 million expiring contract last November. But the signings posed two potential problems: 1) There isn't enough room in the same backcourt for Gordon, Richard Hamilton, and Rodney Stuckey; and 2) The Pistons will no longer be major players in the much better free-agent summer of 2010. Not able to afford another miserable season for the mere chance that a big-ticket free agent would come to Detroit in '10, Dumars decided to strike now. The Pistons were among only a handful of teams with significant cap space this summer, and thus could dictate which players they pursued. Next summer, they might've ended up on the periphery of the excitement when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and others were looking for not only money, but also a championship-ready roster to join.

The Pistons don't have a championship roster, but they did have money. As a buyer in a seller's market, Dumars obviously felt the time to act was this summer, not next. The backcourt logjam lends credence to the idea that Dumars isn't finished shuffling the deck this summer. Some league executives have speculated that once Dumars landed Gordon, a prolific scorer who doesn't do much else, he would begin exploring trade possibilities for Hamilton. That's somewhat ironic, given that Hamilton's contentious relationship with Curry led, in part, to the coach being fired after only one season. Hamilton has four years and nearly $50 million left on the extension he signed shortly before Billups was shipped to Denver and the demolition of the Pistons began. Moving Hamilton would give Dumars a Gordon-Stuckey backcourt, which presumably either Doug Collins or Avery Johnson -- the two front-runners to succeed Curry -- would find intriguing.

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Post#362 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:06 am

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UPDATE: The Pistons believe they can land both Gordon and Charlie Villanueva and are making their pitch on the first day of free agency, two people familiar with the situation confirmed.

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Post#363 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:13 am

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/ ... -funtimes/

Free Agent Speculation Insane Funtimes
These are the dudes the Pistons apparently want. Should they want them? See below, where I analyze these dudes.
Ben Gordon
Why I like it: The Pistons desperately need outside shooting to beat the zone, and Ben Gordon provides that. He can come off the bench as part of a three guard rotation, and take the heat of Rodney Stuckey. Derrick Rose clearly benefited from playing alongside Gordon last year, and the same should hold true here. At 26, Gordon should be in peak form long enough to help the Pistons win a title, and could be the key to converting to a more uptempo game.
Why I hate it: Gordon’s ability to defend the two spot is questionable at best. While Gordon should be fine coming of the bench in spurts, Rip Hamilton obviously is not. I would have to think this would be the first domino to fall in a busy summer for the Pistons should he wind up here.
Charlie Villanueva
Why I like it: At age 24, Charlie V. quietly put together a breakout season, scoring 24 points per 40 minutes. He’s also an underrated rebounder, who can hit the three and hit free throws. In other words, he’s a bit like the guy he would be replacing. Villanueva still carries baggage from a draft in which he was excoriated by scouts for a lackluster attitude. As such, he is likely to come at a bargain price.
Why I hate it: Some of that baggage is deserved, and he is notoriously terrible defender, which results in a high foul rate that keeps him off the court. While a jump in productivity is not unheard of at age 24, it was a contract year from a guy regarded as a flake. Also, the last time the Pistons had an oddball power forward who averaged 16 ppg at the 4, he drowned.
Hedo Turkoglu
Why I like it: Hedo was a key component of the Magic’s fairy-tale run to the championship. He can knock down threes, can play the four or the five, and is a good passer for his size.
Why I hate it: Let me put it this way. Hedo and the Magic were made for each other. With the possible exception of Portland, no team could be a better match for his skill set. And he still wasn’t that good, sporting a paltry 14.82 PER on 41% shooting. Not a problem for a guy seeking the MLE, but Turk turned down $35 million over four years. Pass.

David Lee
Why I like it: David Lee is a flatly outstanding rebounder who can generate offense for himself solely by hanging around the rim. His defense, while uninspired, exceeds his reputation. While players like Lee tend to get overpaid, the Knicks are not keen to re-sign him, which means he could be had at a reasonable price. $36 million for four years? I’m buying at that price. Lee had the highest PER of any free agent during the 2008-09 season.
Why I hate it: The PER is at its worst when measuring great rebounders who are not great defenders. The fact of the matter is that every missed shot results in a rebound. Someone’s going to get that rebound, and if you play on a team that is not inclined to chase down the ball. If Lee is such an astonishing rebounder, why was his team one of the worst rebounding teams in basketball? In fact, three of the four worst rebounding teams featured players (Kaman, Camby, Biedrins and Lee) who are regarded for their rebounding.
Marcin Gortat
Why I like it: He’s a true center, and he isn’t Kwame Brown. Also, he seems to be a good basketball player. In limited minutes, he has shown himself to be a good rebounder and good defender.
Why I hate it: I think he’s going to be overpriced. There is a built-in risk signing a guy whose only role was spot duty for Dwight Howard. Sure he grabbed rebounds. Who else was going to with Howard on the bench? Marcin Gortat for $4 million per year? Worht the risk. Marcin Gortat for $8 million per year? Echoes of Calvin Booth.
Paul Millsap
Why I like it: Millsap has always shown signs of being a real talent. This year, he demonstrated that he is, in fact, a real talent. His string of double-doubles in Carlos Boozer’s absence were impressive. He’s a tough defender who won’t hesitate to mutilate. He shares Jason Maxiell’s culinary affinity for infants.
Why I hate it: Speaking of Jason Maxiell… Is Paul Millsap that much better? I’m not so sure, and I’m not interested in paying $50 million to find out. The truth is that Millsap’s asking price accords with his full potential. Sometimes, you have to take that risk, but Millsap has yet to prove he can stay on the court. If we’re going to hold that against our present talent, shouldn’t we factor that in to our free agent signings?

Marvin Williams
Why I like it: An under the radar free agent, on account of his restricted status, Marvin Williams has registered two consecutive seasons of substantial improvement. Once regarded as a bust, Williams has become an effective mid-range shooter who is capable of getting to the line, and has only recently added a three point shot to his repetoire. At age 23, there is still some upside here, and Williams could be had at a bargain. Plus, unlike most possibilities listed here, Williams is a solid defender.
Why I hate it: We have two wing players who can play defense and have solid mid-range games. Plus, since Williams is restricted, we’ll have to deal with the headache of waiting for Atlanta’s gonzo leadership posse to make a decision as to whether to match. Plus, Williams is inconsistent enough that last year’s uptick could be seen as a contract year ploy for more cash.
Leon Powe
Why I like it: Powe has demonstrated all-star talent, which comes at a bargain-basement price out of concern for his knees. We would be taking away the Celtics’ insurance policy, further cementing their demise.
Why I hate it: Does he suffer injuries, or does he just wear out? If the latter, then he is almost useless in building a championship roster. Also, the arrival of Kevin Garnett seemed to cast a weird spell on the team’s role players. I’m not sure we can replicate that magic here.
Trevor Ariza
Why I like it: Trevor Ariza is magic!
Why I hate it: No he isn’t. Ariza has demonstrated that he deserves a starting job somewhere. Key rotation player on a championship team isn’t a bad second best. But Tayshaun Prince is better than Trevor Ariza, and we didn’t store up cap room to make a series of semi-lateral moves. Let’s just admire the dude from afar, okay?

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Post#364 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:19 am

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/ ... nd-roster/

Detroit’s Summer League schedule and roster
The Las Vegas Summer League schedule has been floating around for a week or so, but now that the draft is over, the Pistons have released the roster, as well.

There are some familiar faces, and by the time all is said and done, at least five or six players might actually appear on the regular season roster: Will Bynum, Walter Sharpe, Austin Daye and DaJuan Summers are obvious locks, while Jonas Jerbko, Deron Washington and Trent Plaisted at least have a chance. It’s unclear who will assume head coaching duties, but the Pistons currently list Darryl Walker, Pat Sullivan, Harold Ellis and Bill Pope as the staff. I might be headed west for a second year in a row myself — that’s still up in the air, though for any DBBers looking to meet up, I’ll update this post once that solidifies.

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14 Michael Bramos G 6-5 221 Miami (Ohio) 5/27/87 R
12 Will Bynum G 6-0 185 Georgia Tech 1/4/83 2
5 Austin Daye F 6-11 190 Gonzaga 6/5/88 R
6 Ibrahim Jaaber G 6-2 175 Pennsylvania 2/3/84 R
33 Jonas Jerebko F 6-10 231 Sweden 3/2/87 R
34 Dwayne Jones C 6-11 250 St. Joseph’s (PA) 6/9/83 4
7 Andre Owens G 6-4 200 Indiana 10/31/80 2
44 Trent Plaisted F 6-11 245 BYU 10/20/86 R
42 Walter Sharpe F 6-9 245 Alabama-Birmingham 7/16/86 1
35 DaJuan Summers F 6-8 240 Georgetown 1/24/88 R
20 Clay Tucker G 6-5 210 Wisconsin-Milwaukee 6/14/80 R
13 Deron Washington G/F 6-7 210 Virginia Tech 12/12/85 R
7/10 3:00 PM (PT) vs Sacramento Kings
7/11 1:00 PM (PT) vs Toronto Raptors
7/13 7:00 PM (PT) vs Golden State Warriors
7/15 1:00 PM (PT) vs New York Knicks
7/17 1:00 PM (PT) vs Cleveland Cavaliers

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Post#365 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:21 am

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/ ... en-gordon/

Report: Pistons reach deal with Ben Gordon
From Y!’s Adrian Wojnarowski: The Detroit Pistons have reached agreement with free-agent guard Ben Gordon(notes) on a five-year contract worth around $55 million, a source with knowledge of the talks told Yahoo! Sports Wednesday evening.

Chris McCosky confirms: “I am waiting for a final confirmation (he can’t sign until July 8 ) but sources close to the negotiations tell me it’s done

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Post#366 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:23 am

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A hard rain’s gonna fall

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Post#367 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:33 am

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/07/01/if-g ... t-daniels/

If Gordon Leaves, Bulls Could Get Daniels
Worried that leading scorer Ben Gordon will leave for Detroit, the Chicago Bulls have contacted Indiana free-agent guard Marquis Daniels as a possible replacement.

Daniels became a free agent last month when the Pacers did not pick up the option on a contract that would have paid him $7.2 million this season.

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Post#368 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:36 am

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/07/01/gord ... e-pistons/

Gordon, Villanueva Reportedly Agree to Be Pistons
Well, that was fast. Free agents can't officially sign with new teams until July 8, but that doesn't mean they can't make verbal commitments before then. And so, after Joe Dumars had both Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva in town to discuss the possibility of joining his team, it appears that he was able to convince them both to agree to terms with the Detroit Pistons.

The deal is said to be in the neighborhood of five years and $55 million for Gordon, and the one for Villanueva is for five years and $35 million. While there are plenty of NBA followers out there who don't think that Gordon plus Villanueva will turn out to be all that great for the Pistons in terms of a full-fledged rebuilding, it is possible that these two could pay dividends in the more immediate future.

In the event that the Pistons return to credible Eastern Conference contenders in a hurry, fans will ease up on Dumars for committing so much money over so many years to a couple of players that aren't necessarily guaranteed to help the team get to the promised land. Until that happens, though, you can expect to hear a lot of questions about spending these cap dollars now, instead of waiting until the highly anticipated free-agent class of 2010 hits the market.

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Post#369 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:39 am

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/07/01/griz ... r-on-fans/

Grizzlies Trade for Zach Randolph, Continue War on Fans
OK, sure. They traded their franchise player a year and a half ago for Kwame Brown and some Skittles. And yes, with the No. 2 pick they managed to select the only basketball player available who's biggest weakness is his ability to put the little ball in the big circle with the net attached (which I hear is kind of important). But hey, they needed to rebuild, and they rebuilt. But they have tons of cap space now, so much in fact, that they're actually under the CBA limit and have to spend some. So they've stopped torturing their fans with one terrible decision after another right? Right? Guys? Anybody?

Oh, hi Zach Randolph. What are you ... doing ... here ...? Oh, no. OK, so it could be worse. The Grizzlies did need a low post scorer very badly, and God knows Hasheem Thabeet won't be filling that role. And while Randolph's still got $33 million over two years left on his contract, the Grizzlies have the space to add Randolph and still offer significant extensions and add free agents over the next two years. But then again ...Zach Randolph? We're talking about a free-agency period with limited expectations, that happens to be heavy on power forwards. Paul Millsap. Brandon Bass. Charlie Villanueva until the Pistons snatched him up. There were options to be had, for less than $33 million over two years. That kind of money could have gotten you a younger, more efficient power forward without the locker room issues, conditioning issues, off-the-court issues, and being-Zach-Randolph issues.

They traded Pau Gasol, pardon me, now-world-champion Pau Gasol, because he had a big huge contract and was older and they wanted to start over. So they went out and got Zach Randolph, who's contract is eerily similar to Gasol's. Because, you know, that makes sense. What you really want when you're rebuilding and looking to the future is to pay for multiple years on a locker room cancer with questionable work ethic who's contract expires the year after the best free agency period in history. Yeah, that. As Kevin Arnovitz of ClipperBlog said on Truehoop, L.A. found a sucker, and can now let Blake Griffin riot down low to his heart's content, and add pieces next year. This move may signal more, though. This may have been the official passing of the torch by the Clippers to Memphis for "Worst Franchise In The NBA." Ye gods.

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Post#370 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:42 am

http://detroit4lyfe.com/articles/detroi ... again.html

Time to Re-Pay Chicago for Signing Hossa and Kopecky
Ben Gordon is in Michigan today to talk to Joe Dumars about signing with the Pistons. In an average free agent market, this is the one guy I would like to see the Pistons sign. Aside from the points he can put on the board, Gordon plays hard, makes good decisions and hits clutch shots down the stretch consistently. He has been a winner dating back to his days at UConn. Also, even though Ben Wallace was a dud for the Bulls and was traded to the Cavs after an uneventful stint in Chicago, I would still like to re-pay the Bulls for what they thought was a coup in signing Wallace, and signing their best player would more than trump the Wallace move. I would also like to re-pay Chicago for trying to usurp the Red Wings as the dominant team in the Western conference by stealing their players. The Blackhawks signed former Wing Marian Hossa today to a 12-year deal reportedly worth $5.2 million a year. They also signed another former Wing, Tomas Kopecky, to a 2-year contract. As far as I'm concerned, the Hawks can have them. I defended Hossa in the playoffs, but the fact is, he didn't do a whole lot when it counted. And Kopecky missed 98% of the playoffs because he got his face smashed in after picking a fight. I can't wait to punish these two Benedict Arnolds in the upcoming years, hopefully in the playoffs again.

But back to the Pistons- if they were somehow able to sign Gordon, Hedo Turkoglu and Amare Stoudemire, which is unlikely but possible, pencil them in for the NBA Finals. They would have to let go of Rasheed Wallace and Allen Iverson, (this is a done deal and good riddance), as well as Antonio McDyess and Rip Hamilton (McDyess is a decent bench piece but as expendable as Wallace and Iverson if you ask me, and Rip is on the down-slope of his career but would easily be the most-missed of the four) to make it happen, but they could pull this off nonetheless. How about a starting line-up of Rodney Stuckey at PG, Ben Gordon at SG, Tayshaun Prince at SF, Amare Stoudemire at PF, Kwame Brown at C, with SG Hedo Turkoglu, PG Will Bynum, F Austin Daye and F Jason Maxiell coming off of the bench. That is one hell of a team. I realize this will be difficult to pull off, but not impossible, as we witnessed Boston maneuver similarly a couple years ago to sign Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen in the same off-season. More likely, the Pistons sign two of the three, and I would gladly take Gordon and Amare and try to keep Rip if this were the case and I had my druthers. In any case, it seems Turkoglu is being courted aggressively by Portland, and Hedo's agent Lon Babby claimed that as of today he had surprisingly not heard from the Pistons brass. I would like to see the Pistons go after Turkoglu because he has the lethal three-point shot the Pistons lack now that Chauncey is in Denver and he is a team-player who has a track record of winning.

I also agree with the firing of Michael Curry. He is a good person by most accounts, and he was a good player, but he had no control over the team, has no relationship with Richard Hamilton and possibly other Pistons, and clearly was not comfortable as a head coach. Doug Collins and Avery Johnson are waiting in the wings, and either would be a huge improvement over Curry. I favor Johnson slightly, but have the feeling Collins might get the gig. I don't think Laimbeer is in the mix at all in Dumars' mind, incidentally. So sit back and watch Joe Dumars go to work, all you doubters. It's a thing of beauty. And haters, try to tell me in a few weeks how much the Pistons are going to suck.

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Post#371 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:44 am

http://detroit4lyfe.com/articles/detroi ... icago.html

Pistons Agree to Terms With Gordon and Villanueva. Gordon for Hossa and Kopecky? Every Day of the Week, Chicago
Joe Dumars has done it again. He positioned the Detroit Pistons to be big-time players in the free-agent market this off-season, as they are one of only 5 teams in the NBA and the only playoff team to have significant room under the cap. And he waited only 18 odd hours after the free-agent period began to agree to terms with Ben Gordon, the 2004 #3 overall draft pick and the leading scorer for the Chicago Bulls the last 4 seasons, and Charlie Villanueva, the 2006 #7 overall draft pick and fellow UConn product who played with Milwaukee last year. Reports have Gordon agreeing to sign for 5 years and $55 million, while Villanueva agreed to a contract worth $40 million over the same time period.

I am thrilled about the Gordon situation to say the least. He will be a tremendous addition to the Pistons. Plus, it really sticks it to our intra-division rival, and more than re-pays Chicago for signing two Red Wings to contracts earlier in the day. Hossa and Kopecky will hardly be missed by the Red Wings, who have several youngsters ready to fill their spots. Meanwhile, the loss of Gordon is absolutely devastating to the "Baby Bulls", who were depending on Gordon to lead their resurgence. In addition, Hossa and Kopecky can't be faulted for signing for considerably more with Chicago. Hossa, for one, will make probably two million dollars a year more than he would have made with the Wings. Meanwhile, Gordon has turned down contract offers from the Bulls the last two seasons worth about what he agreed to sign for with Detroit today.

I think the Pistons could have spent their other $8 million under the cap more wisely. However, Villanueva may surprise some people. He is athletic, young (24) and will rebound, play defense, hustle and do the little things under the boards that no one has been doing for the Pistons since Rasheed reverted to his old style of aimlessly drifting around the three point line on offense after the Pistons won the 2004 NBA championship. I wish the Pistons would spend McDyess' potential contract money on someone else, but apparently they are working to re-sign him. In addition, Dumars announced that Detroit would likely name a new coach in the next week. Finally, the Pistons will experience some good old addition by subtraction by letting "the Cancer" and Rasheed "Implosion" Wallace sign with other teams. It is an exciting time for the Detroit Pistons, and we have Joe Dumars to thank.

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Post#372 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:47 am

http://countthatbabyandafoul.blogspot.c ... cited.html

Am I Supposed to be Excited?
Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski reports that the Pistons are close to signing two former Connecticut Huskies to play alongside UConn alum RIP Hamilton. "Chicago Bulls guard Ben Gordon and Milwaukee Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva flew to Detroit on Wednesday morning for a mid-day meeting with team president Joe Dumars and indications are both are moving rapidly toward deals with the Detroit Pistons."
--Yahoo! Sports

Kelly Dwyer sums up my feelings. If the reports are true, for the first time since he took over as GM, I have serious doubts about Joe Dumars and his plan. Prove me wrong Joe.

Update: ESPN's Henry Abbott used to like the Chauncey Billups trade from Detroit's perspective. Used to.

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Post#373 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:49 am

http://pistonpost.com/2009/07/01/dumars ... edibility/

Dumars signs Gordon, loses all credibility
I am in denial. Apparently, Joe didn’t read my heart-warming letter. One year is one thing, but signing this clown for five years? Plan on five more seasons just like the last one (or until the Pistons can unload that massive contract).

From Yahoo! Sports: The Detroit Pistons have reached agreement with free-agent guard Ben Gordon(notes) on a five-year contract worth around $55 million, a source with knowledge of the talks told Yahoo! Sports Wednesday evening.

The Pistons are continuing to negotiate with forward Charlie Villanueva(notes). July 8 is the first day free agents can sign contracts. Gordon and Villanueva, who played together for a year at UConn, traveled to Detroit on Wednesday morning to meet with Detroit president Joe Dumars.

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Post#374 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 5:52 am

http://pistonpost.com/2009/07/01/shoppi ... illanueva/

Shopping spree continues, Pistons sign Villanueva
The signing of Ben Gordon was almost immediately followed by news that the Pistons were signing Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva to a 5-year contract worth $35 million, according to ESPN.com.

It’s a good thing this happened after the Gordon signing, because this move give Joe Dumars a smidgen if his reputability back. I have always liked Villanueva and believe he is grossly underrated. $7 million a season is fair for Chuck’s talent level and will be a bargain when he continues to improve. Really, the guy’s a potential all-star. But Ben Gordon, not so much. And yet his contract entails $20 million more over the 5 years. I’m confused at Dumars’ logic…and that’s saying it politely.

Yahoo Sports: Gordon will receive a five-year contract worth around $55 million while Villanueva’s five-year deal is expected to be worth about $35 million. Gordon and Villanueva, who played together for a year at UConn, traveled to Detroit on Wednesday morning to meet with Detroit president Joe Dumars and other Pistons front-office officials. They took a tour of the practice facility in Auburn Hills, had lunch with management and both ultimately came to terms on an agreement. Gordon agreed first and Villanueva followed soon after.

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Post#375 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:04 am

http://www.pistonpowered.com/2009/07/pi ... -schedule/

Pistons release Summer League roster and schedule
All games will be played at the Thomas & Mack Center or Cox Pavilion located on the campus of UNLV.
NO PLAYER POS HT WT COLLEGE/COUNTRY BIRTHDATE NBA EXP.
14 Michael Bramos G 6-5 221 Miami (Ohio) 5/27/87 R
12 Will Bynum G 6-0 185 Georgia Tech 1/4/83 2
5 Austin Daye F 6-11 190 Gonzaga 6/5/88 R
6 Ibrahim Jaaber G 6-2 175 Pennsylvania 2/3/84 R
33 Jonas Jerebko F 6-10 231 Sweden 3/2/87 R
34 Dwayne Jones C 6-11 250 St. Joseph’s (PA) 6/9/83 4
7 Andre Owens G 6-4 200 Indiana 10/31/80 2
44 Trent Plaisted F 6-11 245 BYU 10/20/86 R
42 Walter Sharpe F 6-9 245 Alabama-Birmingham 7/16/86 1
35 DaJuan Summers F 6-8 240 Georgetown 1/24/88 R
20 Clay Tucker G 6-5 210 Wisconsin-Milwaukee 6/14/80 R
13 Deron Washington G/F 6-7 210 Virginia Tech 12/12/85 R

COACHES:
Darryl Walker, Arkansas
Pat Sullivan, North Carolina
Harold Ellis, Morehouse College
Bill Pope, Kansas
ATHLETIC TRAINER:
Mike Abdenour, Wayne State
ASSISTANT STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING COACH:
Dave Boyer, Wayne State

Following is the 2009 Pistons’ summer league schedule (Times are PST):
2009 PISTONS SUMMER LEAGUE SCHEDULE
DATE TIME OPPONONENT LOCATION

7/10 3:00 PM SACRAMENTO KINGS COX PAVILION
7/11 1:00 PM TORONTO RAPTORS COX PAVILION
7/13 7:00 PM GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS COX PAVILION
7/15 1:00 PM NEW YORK KNICKS COX PAVILION
7/17 1:00 PM CLEVELAND CAVALIERS COX PAVILION

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Post#376 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:06 am

http://www.pistonpowered.com/2009/07/go ... p-targets/

Gordon and Villanueva appear to be top targets
Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva are in Detroit, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports.

Although their stints at UConn didn’t overlap, Wojnarowski reports they’re good friends. This is a package deal I’d be happy with, assuming their contracts aren’t way bigger than the expected market value.

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Post#377 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:11 am

http://www.pistonpowered.com/2009/07/od ... ext-coach/

Odds on the Pistons’ next coach
Doug Collins: 42 percent
He gets the slight nod over Johnson because Yahoo! Sports’s Adrian Wojnarowski has a source saying Collins is the favorite.
Avery Johnson: 40 percent
Of all available coaches, he has accomplished the most the most recently.

John Kuester: 10 percent
His name has popped up all over, but he has never been an NBA head coach. I doubt Joe Dumars replaces a failed first-time coach with another first-time coach.
Bill Laimbeer: 5 percent
Laimbeer is in the running, according to A. Sherrod Blakely of MLive. Still, he has the same problem as Kuester: he has never been an NBA head coach.

Other: 3 percent
It won’t be Tom Izzo. From the Free Press: “I’m not throwing my hat in the ring, and I don’t think they’re throwing their hat at me,” Izzo said. “I’m just hanging tight here. I want to win another championship.”
I guess that means Jeff Van Gundy leads the “others.”

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Post#378 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:13 am

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Pistons reach deal with Ben Gordon
Detroit has agreed to a five-year contract worth about $55 million with Ben Gordon, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports.

This is a little more than money than I expected, but I’m still slightly optimistic on the signing.

He can’t officially sign until July 8.

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Post#379 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:15 am

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Pistons reach deal with Charlie Villanueva
Detroit has agreed to a five-year contract with Charlie Villanueva, according to the Associated Press.

There are some different numbers floating around for his salary. This ESPN report (with info from Chris Broussard and Marc Stein) says he will make $40 million.
Chris McCosky of the Detroit News says $35 million.
The Associated Press says at least $35 million.

He can’t officially sign until July 8.

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Post#380 » by nasty daddy » Thu Jul 2, 2009 6:19 am

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Pistons reach deals with Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva
OK, what now? The Pistons have agreements in place with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. They have a 50-50 chance of re-signing Antonio McDyess. They have three promising rookies, though none are expected to contribute much next season.They have three potent scoring guards in Gordon, Richard Hamilton and Rodney Stuckey and an established and versatile small forward in Tayshaun Prince. The closest thing to a true point guard is Will Bynum. As far as legitimate post players, besides Villanueva (a more lethal perimeter player than post threat), they have Kwame Brown and Jason Maxiell.

Oh, and they don't have a head coach or coaching staff. Start there: Joe Dumars had a long and productive chat with former Dallas Mavericks coach Avery Johnson on Tuesday night. Dumars has not, as of Wednesday, spoken to any other candidate, including Doug Collins, though he is expected to soon. Dumars wants to have the coach in place before the Pistons leave for summer league next Tuesday.Now back to the roster. Rumors persist Dumars may trade either Hamilton or Prince for another, more post-oriented big man. The Jazz would consider sending Carlos Boozer and his expiring contract ($12.6 million) to the Pistons for Hamilton -- though his three-year, $35 million extension may give them pause. Dumars has said on more than one occasion he wasn't thrilled with that prospect. For now, the plan is to keep Hamilton and feature the potent three-guard attack. But if McDyess signs elsewhere, Dumars may have to use his trade chips. It's hard to imagine the Pistons starting the season with Brown, Maxiell and Villanueva as their primary big men. Defensive rebounds would be scarce.

Regardless, it is clear the new version of the Pistons will in no way resemble the teams from 2003-2008. This is going to be a team built on length, athleticism and versatility. It is going to play faster and be more offense-oriented. It is going to feature legitimate scoring threats at four positions. It's a team seemingly a better fit for the way the game is being played now. Even though Cleveland and Boston had some stingy defensive numbers last season, once the playoffs started, scoring went up. The games were being played in the upper 90s and early-100s. The days of beating teams 89-87 are over. Because of rules modifications, teams can't play the rugged defense the Pistons and Spurs played earlier in this decade. You need power forwards with skill, 6-10 guys who can score on the outside as well as create off the dribble. You need guards that can penetrate and you need scorers on the wings who can spread the defense. Mostly, you need proven scorers who can get their shots anywhere on the court against any kind of defense at any time in the game. In Gordon, the Pistons have that guy. So, the roster is by no means complete. There are holes, gaping holes, in the frontcourt. The team is, at least on paper, weaker defensively. But, all things considered, it was not a bad first day for Dumars and his rebuilding plan.

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