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Post#381 » by MotownMadness » Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:45 am

Kuminga- 23pts, 13rebs, 8-11 fts
Green- 21pts, 3stls

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Re: 2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft 

Post#382 » by buzzkilloton » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:05 am

MotownMadness wrote:Kuminga- 23pts, 13rebs, 8-11 fts
Green- 21pts, 3stls

In tonight's game


Kuminga could very well turn out being the best player in the draft. Hes also younger then the other guys because he reclassified.
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Re: 2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft 

Post#383 » by edmunder_prc » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:16 am

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edmunder_prc wrote:Factor in the end of the year wins that Casey will white knuckle the Pistons in to. That will drop us down at least 5 spots.

Last year when the team was trying to tank, Casey was bringing out Brandon Knight, McRae, Langston Galloway, Wood, Henson line ups and playing the rookies in single digit minutes.

This was after a fire sale. Getting rid of Reggie Jackson, Morris and Drummond.

Casey is going for the playoffs and when all the other teams "rest" all their players, Casey is going to be playing all the vets 35 minutes a game to secure those awesome wins that put us into the teens pick. Again.

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So last year "the team" was trying to tank but Casey was trying to win games? Are you suggesting that the players were intentionally trying to lose?

You're all over the map here. First, Morris was gone after the 2016-17 season so he has nothing to do with last year and was gone before Casey was coach. Jackson played 14 games and Drummond 57 of 66 games last year. And considering that the Pistons were 12-21 in the first half of the season and 8-25 in the second half including a WHOPPING 3-18 finish, where were all those white knuckle wins that dropped the Pistons into a pick in the teens when they picked 7th in the last draft? Casey's first year was 41-41 resulting in the 15th pick; what was he supposed to do? Walk in the door right after Blake Griffin had been signed the year before and tank? Not to mention, since when did playing all the vets big minutes this year result in wins? That's when the team looks at its WORST.

This may be your most ridiculous post so far.


There are two of those Morris guys, right? I assure you, we had one of them on the team.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2020/02/21/another-buyout-pistons-say-farewell-to-markieff-morris/4831304002/

Great, the Pistons went 3-18, playing Tony Snell 37 minutes a game. Look at their wins and the minutes played and who played them.

Heres a good for you: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202002050DET.html

Drummond 38 mins
Snell 34
Reggie 34
Langston 30

We beat the Suns, who drafted in the 10th spot.

Sekou played 16 minutes, great. Jordan Bone, Louis King at a few minutes a piece.

Just because the Pistons didnt win, it wasnt because of lack of trying.




Here is the final game of the season. You can look at the March games for yourself, you might even see some Pistons you forgot about. Maybe a Tim Frazier and Markieff Morris sighting. Casey was not tanking. Playing Jordan Bone more than 5 minutes was a miracle for a team that salary dumped its "stars".

Christian Wood 38:58
Brandon Knight 33:36
Tony Snell 28:13
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk 24:06
Thon Maker 16:32
Langston Galloway 27:47
Jordan McRae 27:13
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Re: 2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft 

Post#384 » by MotownMadness » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:26 am

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MotownMadness wrote:Kuminga- 23pts, 13rebs, 8-11 fts
Green- 21pts, 3stls

In tonight's game


Kuminga could very well turn out being the best player in the draft. Hes also younger then the other guys because he reclassified.

Yeah he looks real good
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Post#385 » by Manocad » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:39 am

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Manocad wrote:
edmunder_prc wrote:Factor in the end of the year wins that Casey will white knuckle the Pistons in to. That will drop us down at least 5 spots.

Last year when the team was trying to tank, Casey was bringing out Brandon Knight, McRae, Langston Galloway, Wood, Henson line ups and playing the rookies in single digit minutes.

This was after a fire sale. Getting rid of Reggie Jackson, Morris and Drummond.

Casey is going for the playoffs and when all the other teams "rest" all their players, Casey is going to be playing all the vets 35 minutes a game to secure those awesome wins that put us into the teens pick. Again.

:lol:
So last year "the team" was trying to tank but Casey was trying to win games? Are you suggesting that the players were intentionally trying to lose?

You're all over the map here. First, Morris was gone after the 2016-17 season so he has nothing to do with last year and was gone before Casey was coach. Jackson played 14 games and Drummond 57 of 66 games last year. And considering that the Pistons were 12-21 in the first half of the season and 8-25 in the second half including a WHOPPING 3-18 finish, where were all those white knuckle wins that dropped the Pistons into a pick in the teens when they picked 7th in the last draft? Casey's first year was 41-41 resulting in the 15th pick; what was he supposed to do? Walk in the door right after Blake Griffin had been signed the year before and tank? Not to mention, since when did playing all the vets big minutes this year result in wins? That's when the team looks at its WORST.

This may be your most ridiculous post so far.


There are two of those Morris guys, right? I assure you, we had one of them on the team.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2020/02/21/another-buyout-pistons-say-farewell-to-markieff-morris/4831304002/

Great, the Pistons went 3-18, playing Tony Snell 37 minutes a game. Look at their wins and the minutes played and who played them.

Heres a good for you: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202002050DET.html

Drummond 38 mins
Snell 34
Reggie 34
Langston 30

We beat the Suns, who drafted in the 10th spot.

Sekou played 16 minutes, great. Jordan Bone, Louis King at a few minutes a piece.

Just because the Pistons didnt win, it wasnt because of lack of trying.




Here is the final game of the season. You can look at the March games for yourself, you might even see some Pistons you forgot about. Maybe a Tim Frazier and Markieff Morris sighting. Casey was not tanking. Playing Jordan Bone more than 5 minutes was a miracle for a team that salary dumped its "stars".

Christian Wood 38:58
Brandon Knight 33:36
Tony Snell 28:13
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk 24:06
Thon Maker 16:32
Langston Galloway 27:47
Jordan McRae 27:13

Let me try this again...regardless of what you think Casey is or was trying to do, nothing happened last year to drop the Pistons into picking in the teens in the draft--they went 20-46 with a 3-18 finish and picked 7th. There were no "awesome Feb and March wins" that messed up their draft position. You're creating lies to support your argument.

How's this--I'll bet you $1000 the Pistons don't pick in the teens this year. Since you know exactly what Casey is doing and will do, this should be easy money for you, right?
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Re: 2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft 

Post#386 » by Invictus88 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:01 am

Manocad wrote:
edmunder_prc wrote:
Manocad wrote::lol:
So last year "the team" was trying to tank but Casey was trying to win games? Are you suggesting that the players were intentionally trying to lose?

You're all over the map here. First, Morris was gone after the 2016-17 season so he has nothing to do with last year and was gone before Casey was coach. Jackson played 14 games and Drummond 57 of 66 games last year. And considering that the Pistons were 12-21 in the first half of the season and 8-25 in the second half including a WHOPPING 3-18 finish, where were all those white knuckle wins that dropped the Pistons into a pick in the teens when they picked 7th in the last draft? Casey's first year was 41-41 resulting in the 15th pick; what was he supposed to do? Walk in the door right after Blake Griffin had been signed the year before and tank? Not to mention, since when did playing all the vets big minutes this year result in wins? That's when the team looks at its WORST.

This may be your most ridiculous post so far.


There are two of those Morris guys, right? I assure you, we had one of them on the team.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2020/02/21/another-buyout-pistons-say-farewell-to-markieff-morris/4831304002/

Great, the Pistons went 3-18, playing Tony Snell 37 minutes a game. Look at their wins and the minutes played and who played them.

Heres a good for you: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202002050DET.html

Drummond 38 mins
Snell 34
Reggie 34
Langston 30

We beat the Suns, who drafted in the 10th spot.

Sekou played 16 minutes, great. Jordan Bone, Louis King at a few minutes a piece.

Just because the Pistons didnt win, it wasnt because of lack of trying.




Here is the final game of the season. You can look at the March games for yourself, you might even see some Pistons you forgot about. Maybe a Tim Frazier and Markieff Morris sighting. Casey was not tanking. Playing Jordan Bone more than 5 minutes was a miracle for a team that salary dumped its "stars".

Christian Wood 38:58
Brandon Knight 33:36
Tony Snell 28:13
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk 24:06
Thon Maker 16:32
Langston Galloway 27:47
Jordan McRae 27:13

Let me try this again...regardless of what you think Casey is or was trying to do, nothing happened last year to drop the Pistons into picking in the teens in the draft--they went 20-46 with a 3-18 finish and picked 7th. There were no "awesome Feb and March wins" that messed up their draft position. You're creating lies to support your argument.

How's this--I'll bet you $1000 the Pistons don't pick in the teens this year. Since you know exactly what Casey is doing and will do, this should be easy money for you, right?


Why are we having the same arguments in multiple threads? :)
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Re: 2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft 

Post#387 » by 440BB » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:13 am

It seems this thread is getting hijacked to complain about Casey last season versus looking at draft prospects. It's tiresome.
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Post#388 » by Manocad » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:26 am

440BB wrote:It seems this thread is getting hijacked to complain about Casey last season versus looking at draft prospects. It's tiresome.

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Post#389 » by DNice68 » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:29 am

buzzkilloton wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Kuminga- 23pts, 13rebs, 8-11 fts
Green- 21pts, 3stls

In tonight's game


Kuminga could very well turn out being the best player in the draft. Hes also younger then the other guys because he reclassified.

He’s kind of a ball hog, and he takes a lot of shot’s to get his points. Green is more efficient, though he needs to be more assertive.
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Post#390 » by Pharaoh » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:38 am

The discussion about last season is directly tied to the prospects thread as it is about our finish last season and how that ruined our pick position!

Every single thread has multiple convos going on at once

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Post#391 » by DetroitSho » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:45 am

Pharaoh wrote:The discussion about last season is directly tied to the prospects thread as it is about our finish last season and how that ruined our pick position!

Every single thread has multiple convos going on at once

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The problem is, IT'S COMPLETE BS, as our finish last year was about as good as it gets in relation to securing the best pick possible.

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Post#392 » by Manocad » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:49 am

Pharaoh wrote:The discussion about last season is directly tied to the prospects thread as it is about our finish last season and how that ruined our pick position!

Every single thread has multiple convos going on at once

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Don't feed edmunder the troll. It is a fact that the Pistons finished 3-18 last year which included 0-5 at the end. That's a 0.143 winning percentage which was far below the .303 overall winning percentage for the season. Nothing team management, Casey or the players did at the end of the season ruined the Pistons' draft position. Quite the opposite, in fact.

That's the end of that. Period.
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Post#393 » by Manocad » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:50 am

DetroitSho wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:The discussion about last season is directly tied to the prospects thread as it is about our finish last season and how that ruined our pick position!

Every single thread has multiple convos going on at once

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The problem is, IT'S COMPLETE BS, as our finish last year was about as good as it gets in relation to securing the best pick possible.

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Re: 2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft 

Post#394 » by MotownMadness » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:55 am

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Post#395 » by buzzkilloton » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:28 am

DNice68 wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Kuminga- 23pts, 13rebs, 8-11 fts
Green- 21pts, 3stls

In tonight's game


Kuminga could very well turn out being the best player in the draft. Hes also younger then the other guys because he reclassified.

He’s kind of a ball hog, and he takes a lot of shot’s to get his points. Green is more efficient, though he needs to be more assertive.


Hes likely not “hogging the ball” hes doing what Shaw wants him to do. They can run the offense through him. Hes got a complete game. Also as Shaw said in this article hes the teams best defender and can defend 1-5.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamzagoria/2020/12/17/jonathan-kuminga-continues-to-impress-with-g-league-ignite-team/



Are you sure Green is more efficient? Looks to me like their pretty close on fg% and Kuminga is shooting more 3s. Kuminga just overall can do more due to being taller longer and a potential elite wing defender. Not to mention Kuminga is 8 months younger, he should still be in highschool if not for reclassification.
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Post#396 » by Pharaoh » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:27 am

Not feeding it just happy for the "discussion" to continue to it's natural conclusion
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Pharaoh wrote:The discussion about last season is directly tied to the prospects thread as it is about our finish last season and how that ruined our pick position!

Every single thread has multiple convos going on at once

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Don't feed edmunder the troll. It is a fact that the Pistons finished 3-18 last year which included 0-5 at the end. That's a 0.143 winning percentage which was far below the .303 overall winning percentage for the season. Nothing team management, Casey or the players did at the end of the season ruined the Pistons' draft position. Quite the opposite, in fact.

That's the end of that. Period.


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Post#397 » by MotownMadness » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:01 am

Kuminga is starting to look like the best player in the draft to me. Man we really just need to get a top 5 pick cause all of them have huge potential
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Post#398 » by Piston Pete » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:27 pm

aad wrote:Jaden Springer


Yeah, at 7, we’re looking at guys like Springer, Moody, and Zaire Williams
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Post#399 » by MotownMadness » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:52 pm

Mobley had a efficient 20pts, 11rebs, 6blks and 2stls last night
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Post#400 » by MotownMadness » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:59 pm

This draft could be a franchise changer, man I hope we dont get screwed out of a top 5 pick

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