Pistons WAIVE Josh Smith

[princeofpalace]

We are on the hook cap-wise for the whole amount here.

If we were able to get a deal that even slightly removed that cap obligation we'd have done it. If the Kings truly offered that deal in the offseason and we turned it down, it's fairly obvious we waited too long to trade him.

Call it SVG's first major blunder of his tenure (though Meeks might have been that too, hard to say).

It's discouraging, but I'm still thrilled on a personal level that I never have to watch Josh Smith on my team again.

I'm guessing the kings offer wasn't as good as reported. The fact that SVG/Gores are happy to eat that salary means it must have been very hard to trade Smith for anything of use.

I disagree with this. I would bet the trade was there in the summer- last year a lot of people blamed SMiht's poor performance on playing out of position. However, this season he looked worse than ever and was playing his natural position. Smiths trade value likely plummetted even further this season than it was last season.

[Kilo]

We should sign Willie Reed or Adonis Thomas off our Grand Rapids team and just embrace this rebuild.

That and/or use Tony Mitchell, Gigi, and the $2.2 mil in cap room to see if we can pick up someone decent.

I agree with the first part - sign some D-League all-star but leave them with the Drive as we have enough young guys on our current roster who should get the PT.

[gusman]

Please get rid of jennings!


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[chrbal]

Had the PIstons made that trade they would be stuck with ok backups at high prices with probably one less draft pick then they have now. Smith is getting stretch provisioned, the piston will have less money on the yearly cap then Jason Thompson makes.

This is the best option.

[Feilong]

Christmas miracle

[No-Man]

If this means that SVG is extending Monroe for something close to the max it will be awful news, I hope Monroe is S&T for the sake of the Pistons.

And with the stretch I would say is a good move.

[princeofpalace]

Thompson is an expiring contract, his deal is not guarenteed past this season. And, if we wanted to- we couldve used the stretch on Landry.

I'm happy Smith is gone, but lets be honest with ourselves, trading Smith for Landry/Thompson was a better option than losing him like this.

[Kilo]

Stretch provision is five years from when the player is cut - so his remaining $28M over the next two years is stretched out over five years, so instead of $14M the next two years it will be $5.6M hits, and with the cap going up I guess it won't be as painful in years 3-4-5 while the Pistons will have an extra $8M to spend they wouldn't have had in the next two off-seasons.

So Detroit will have $28M to spend this off-season, assuming Monroe leaves instead of the $20M. And if Monroe stays and signs for say $13M, Detroit goes from having $7M left to spend to still having $15M - so much better chance to sign another impact starter.

[sfballa13]

Thompson is an expiring contract, his deal is not guarenteed past this season. And, if we wanted to- we couldve used the stretch on Landry.

I'm happy Smith is gone, but lets be honest with ourselves, trading Smith for Landry/Thompson was a better option than losing him like this.

Exactly.

If we kept Landry on for 3 years and stretched out Thompson for 5 years it still would have been better

Now we lose 5M of cap space and dont have a player on our roster to show for it

At least Landry would have been a competent back up big for 5M rather than Gores throwing that in the trash

SVG first huge mistake was not accepting the Kings deal it's official

[russkopp]

Does SVG secretly post on this board? This move is something you'd see on here that would get the person verbally abused.

[Kilo]

Hindsight being 20/20 I bet Stan wishes he made that Landry/Thompson trade, no way to argue this is better sanely. But not making that move is sunk cost now and this is better than giving up a first to deal him or keeping him around the next two years I guess.

What kills me is Gores wouldn't Amnesty Ben Gordon for $15M but will eat $28M on Smith.

Moose and Jerebko have to be smiling ear to ear now. And Smith ends up happy as well as he can pick any landing spot for the league vets minimum - I bet every contender will reach out to him. Smith at $14M per season was terrible, but Smith at $3M is ridiculously good value.

[coordinator0]

Stretch provision is five years from when the player is cut - so his remaining $28M over the next two years is stretched out over five years, so instead of $14M the next two years it will be $5.6M hits, and with the cap going up I guess it won't be as painful in years 3-4-5 while the Pistons will have an extra $8M to spend they wouldn't have had in the next two off-seasons.

So Detroit will have $28M to spend this off-season, assuming Monroe leaves instead of the $20M. And if Monroe stays and signs for say $13M, Detroit goes from having $7M left to spend to still having $15M - so much better chance to sign another impact starter.

Smith only has $27 million left on the contract after this season. Small difference, but it comes out to $5.4 million hits.

[basedjesus]

jennings is next i guess

[wire28]

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL

[Piston Pete]

I'm still debating whether this is a good move.

1) It rids us of Smith immediately = Good
2) But by ridding ourselves of Smith immediately, it hurts our tank = bad

3) I think I'd rather have Smith ride our bench at 2 years, $26 million over playing for someone else but we still pay him $5.2 million per over 5 years. That's long-term MLE money for a guy not even on the team. After next year, he would have been a LARGE expiring contract, at the very least.

4) I wonder if he explored buyout options before simply waiving him.

[kurtis48239]

Thank the lord,I couldnt believe this when I read it.It was so obvious this season that smith was hurting this team and needed to go.Iam glad stan pulled this move,he had to do something to get into these players head and let them know not to **** with him.Ballsy move but was needed to flip this team upside down.

[kurtis48239]

I'm still debating whether this is a good move.

1) It rids us of Smith immediately = Good
2) But by ridding ourselves of Smith immediately, it hurts our tank = bad

3) I think I'd rather have Smith ride our bench at 2 years, $26 million over playing for someone else but we still pay him $5.2 million per over 5 years. That's long-term MLE money for a guy not even on the team. After next year, he would have been a LARGE expiring contract, at the very least.

4) I wonder if he explored buyout options before simply waiving him.

But if he is that big of a cancer on the court and the locker room,you have to remove him now,befor stan loses all control and the players ears.He made the right move in my opinion.

[Piston Pete]

What kills me is Gores wouldn't Amnesty Ben Gordon for $15M but will eat $28M on Smith.

Shows me Dumars made the BG deal on his own....

[princeofpalace]

What kills me is Gores wouldn't Amnesty Ben Gordon for $15M but will eat $28M on Smith.

Shows me Dumars made the BG deal on his own....

Lol no. It shows that Gores has learned from his mistakes.

[Ghost]

LOLOLOLOLOL. OMG. I'M DEAD.