Trade for Westbrook?

MotownMadness · Post #41 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:24 pm

Pretty sure Dlo will want to start and be traded from GS soon too when hes eligible for trade so we can always wait for that with him being younger and locked up.

Post #42 » by **Snakebites** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:26 pm

pistonpat wrote:Please no Westbrook. Russell is on the downside of his career, going to make $40M and there is a reason no star wants to play with him. 42% from the floor and 29% from three and he is going to be 31 this year.. No thank you...

I can believe there are folks here who want to pay a 34 year old guard who relies on his athleticism 43 million in 2023...

thesack12 · Post #43 » by **thesack12** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:27 pm

MotownMadness wrote:Pretty sure Dlo will want to start and be traded from GS soon too when hes eligible for trade so we can always wait for that with him being younger and locked up.

Unless they want Blake, Detroit has nothing of interest for GSW.

Exit 9 · Post #44 » by **Exit 9** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:29 pm

We can't include Snell in a package until December right?

DetroitPistons · Post #45 » by **DetroitPistons** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:30 pm

Exit 9 wrote:We can't include Snell in a package until December right?

I thought that was only for signed players. We traded for Snell so I think we trade him whenever. Not sure though.

Kilo · Post #46 » by **Kilo** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:34 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:
Exit 9 wrote:We can't include Snell in a package until December right?

I thought that was only for signed players. We traded for Snell so I think we trade him whenever. Not sure though.

Not in a package I believe. And this would be a package.

Jackson, Galloway, Kennard and Maker works though salary wise. Issue becomes OKC taking on four players for one, meaning they need to cut three of theirs.

MotownMadness · Post #47 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:35 pm

thesack12 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Pretty sure Dlo will want to start and be traded from GS soon too when hes eligible for trade so we can always wait for that with him being younger and locked up.

Unless they want Blake, Detroit has nothing of interest for GSW.

So give them Blake, that actually makes sense and would be a straight swap with us losing no future assets

Post #48 » by **Snakebites** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:36 pm

Kilo wrote:
DetroitPistons wrote:
Exit 9 wrote:We can't include Snell in a package until December right?

I thought that was only for signed players. We traded for Snell so I think we trade him whenever. Not sure though.

Not in a package I believe. And this would be a package.

Jackson, Galloway, Kennard and Maker works though salary wise. Issue becomes OKC taking on four players for one, meaning they need to cut three of theirs.

You can't trade them right away, but I think the downtime isn't as long for traded players as for signed ones. Isn't it 60 days? He could in theory be traded before the season. Lets pray it isn't in a deal like this though.

tradez401 · Post #49 » by **tradez401** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:36 pm

we're not rebuilding so why not roll the dice and see what westbrook does in the east with dre and blake though i wouldnt give up sekou and kinda dont wanna give up kennard either i'd offer reggie, maker, galloway and picks for russell if okc says no then its whatever.

El Chivo · Post #50 » by **El Chivo** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:37 pm

We are not one player away from relevance.

vege · Post #51 » by **vege** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:38 pm

I am not sure if I like this. I don't think we have the salaries to match anyways, so don't think we can make a realistic offer, and I don't think Westbrook is worth a lot. Expirings + a pick or 2 should get it done.

Exit 9 · Post #52 » by **Exit 9** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:40 pm

Reggie would probably need to be routed elsewhere, doubt they want him back and doubt he wants to go back either.

Flip him to Minny and we get RoCo? Salaries probably be a little off but Minny been desperate for a new look at PG...Teague ass stay hurt too much...

Kilo · Post #53 » by **Kilo** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:47 pm

Exit 9 wrote:Reggie would probably need to be routed elsewhere, doubt they want him back and doubt he wants to go back either.

Flip him to Minny and we get RoCo? Salaries probably be a little off but Minny been desperate for a new look at PG...Teague ass stay hurt too much...

Reggie would be part of Westbrook trade. If he's rerouted, the player he's traded for is going to OKC. To Minny for Teague would be to send Teague to OKC.

bstein14 · Post #54 » by **bstein14** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:47 pm

Westbrook cares too much about his stats and his attitude sucks. I also think you need to play him mostly with four shooters. Having Dre and Westbrook fighting each other for rebounds isn't going to work for us.

That said, I'd trade Dre and Reggie for Westbrook straight up no picks exchanged. Would need another move for a five.

bstein14 · Post #55 » by **bstein14** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:50 pm

In many ways, Westbrook is the pg version of Dre... low IQ steals rebounds from teammates and impact on winning is questionable.

Kilo · Post #56 » by **Kilo** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:50 pm

The last year of Westbrook, even if he waives his TB, is a killer and likely a deal breaker. Or at least mitigates OKC's asking price. If he doesn't waive his TB it's $47M - no bloody way. If he waives it it's 43M. I mean it's only $4M but $47M mentally rounds up to "$50M".

Kennard and two FRP's would be the assets, with Jackson, Galloway and Thon as the salary ballasts.

thesack12 · Post #57 » by **thesack12** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:51 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
thesack12 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Pretty sure Dlo will want to start and be traded from GS soon too when hes eligible for trade so we can always wait for that with him being younger and locked up.

Unless they want Blake, Detroit has nothing of interest for GSW.

So give them Blake, that actually makes sense and would be a straight swap with us losing no future assets

Don't know if GSW would be willing to add that much tax to their bill

buzzkilloton · Post #58 » by **buzzkilloton** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:51 pm

No interest in Westbrick. Hes coming off his worst season since his 2nd year in the league. He relies completely on being the best athlete on the court and thats fading fast.

If we traded multiple 1st round picks + Kennard or Sekou we would basically be trading 3 1st rounders for him. We wont be on the level of the sixers or bucks so we would be playing for a 2nd round playoff series not for a title. We just seen him in the West playing with PG13 and the thunder got smashed 4-1 by a blazers team in the first round.

Not to mention that 2nd 1st round pick could be a really high lottery pick with a washed up Russ and old Blake.

DetroitPistons · Post #59 » by **DetroitPistons** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:55 pm

bstein14 wrote:Westbrook cares too much about his stats and his attitude sucks. I also think you need to play him mostly with four shooters. Having Dre and Westbrook fighting each other for rebounds isn't going to work for us.

That said, I'd trade Dre and Reggie for Westbrook straight up no picks exchanged. Would need another move for a five.

Trading Dre in the package for Westbrook would defeat the whole purpose. We need to pair Westbrook with Griffin and Drummond and put competent role players around them.

Invictus88 · Post #60 » by **Invictus88** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:56 pm

Snakebites wrote:
pistonpat wrote:Please no Westbrook. Russell is on the downside of his career, going to make $40M and there is a reason no star wants to play with him. 42% from the floor and 29% from three and he is going to be 31 this year.. No thank you...

I can believe there are folks here who want to pay a 34 year old guard who relies on his athleticism 43 million in 2023...

I want to believe you wanted to type "can't" here

The John Wall thread. The Andrew Wiggins thread. The Carmelo Anthony thread.

The desire to completely wreck your franchise's prospects for years to come in exchange for immediate gain that falls short of anything worthwhile is strong here.

Food for thought: Can you imagine the scenario where Golden State didn't have 2 of its superstars break themselves and they won again in the finals? Very, very plausible. And Toronto would have *nothing* due to Kawhi bolting. Just like all the sane people predicted.
Watch Toronto this year and imagine that being what happened....