Game 12: Pistons (2-9) @ Raptors (7-6) - Nov. 13 7:30 PM EST

[Manocad]

I think we blew the Cade pick

And I'm sure you're lonely on that island.

[Rodman]

Oh my Stewart set a pick 4 Grant and grant scored.. who Woulda thought you could get to the rim by setting picks

[dVs33]

Maybe Weaver smacked Casey around a little and told him to start working the ball inside if the jumpers aren't dropping, because they're doing it.

Who would have thought shots near the hoop would be easier to hit?

[Pistonrings]

Maybe Weaver smacked Casey around a little and told him to start working the ball inside if the jumpers aren't dropping, because they're doing it.

Yep, I saw them do it a bit against the Nets, it was amazing. Guys actually went in side with a purpose

[FloridaMan78]

Maybe Weaver smacked Casey around a little and told him to start working the ball inside if the jumpers aren't dropping, because they're doing it.

I would argue that the shooters are hitting their threes so guys can’t help as much.

[Mogolo]

Can we make a trade for Okafor? so we can get the 1st pick again this year...

but in all seriousness our def is not bad.. rebounds and offense is the black hole this season.

[dVs33]

I really don’t like Cade or Hayes just standing on the corner whenever the other has the ball. I don’t see the benefit

[Manocad]

Can we make a trade for Okafor? so we can get the 1st pick again this year...

but in all seriousness our def is not bad.. rebounds and offense is the black hole this season.

Offense isn't a problem this game. Defensive rebounding is though. Plus the Raptors are shooting well.

[guldakot]

Hayes just had dragon for dinner lol

[The Moose]

Hayes is significantly outplaying Cade tonight

[dVs33]

So many lazy passes

[Mogolo]

Can we make a trade for Okafor? so we can get the 1st pick again this year...

but in all seriousness our def is not bad.. rebounds and offense is the black hole this season.

Offense isn't a problem this game. Defensive rebounding is though. Plus the Raptors are shooting well.

yea I'm just saying in general this season.. rebounding and offense.

[Manocad]

The game slows down far too much with out Cade and Hayes in there.
Casey needs to stagger them to keep the pace up

Hayes is still a train wreck as a point guard. Casey has taken the ball out of his hands and Hayes has been playing better.

How strange. Some people suggested that Hayes was so bad there was no way he could play off ball. At least one person said that you can't knock it until you try it and that maybe that might be what Hayes needed. I'm trying to remember who that was...

[Pistonrings]

Killian being born right in front of us.

[guldakot]

The game slows down far too much with out Cade and Hayes in there.
Casey needs to stagger them to keep the pace up

Hayes is still a train wreck as a point guard. Casey has taken the ball out of his hands and Hayes has been playing better.

How strange. Some people suggested that Hayes was so bad there was no way he could play off ball. At least one person said that you can't knock it until you try it and that maybe that might be what Hayes needed. I'm trying to remember who that was...

Hayes has been getting better as a player each game. Maybe, just maybe, we need to give players more then 20 friggin games to develop before we call em a bust?

[Manocad]

Can we make a trade for Okafor? so we can get the 1st pick again this year...

but in all seriousness our def is not bad.. rebounds and offense is the black hole this season.

Offense isn't a problem this game. Defensive rebounding is though. Plus the Raptors are shooting well.

yea I'm just saying in general this season.. rebounding and offense.

Oh I get it. It's just weird calling the offense a black hole during a game where the offense is playing pretty damn well. Point being that things CAN change and that every poor game/stretch doesn't require a kneejerk reaction.

[detroitKG]

Hayes is still a train wreck as a point guard. Casey has taken the ball out of his hands and Hayes has been playing better.

How strange. Some people suggested that Hayes was so bad there was no way he could play off ball. At least one person said that you can't knock it until you try it and that maybe that might be what Hayes needed. I'm trying to remember who that was...

Hayes has been getting better as a player each game. Maybe, just maybe, we need to give players more then 20 friggin games to develop before we call em a bust?

[Manocad]

Hayes is still a train wreck as a point guard. Casey has taken the ball out of his hands and Hayes has been playing better.

How strange. Some people suggested that Hayes was so bad there was no way he could play off ball. At least one person said that you can't knock it until you try it and that maybe that might be what Hayes needed. I'm trying to remember who that was...

Hayes has been getting better as a player each game. Maybe, just maybe, we need to give players more then 20 friggin games to develop before we call em a bust?

WHAT?!?!? That's CRAZY

[aad]

Cade shouldn’t play in the second half he looks out of it he has been a big disappointment

[vege]

Hayes leading the team in asssits and rebounds and on pace for a triple double. Nice.