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I think the three or even four team trade seems likely to be honest. There will be a lot of moving pieces on the board comes trade deadline. I don't watch much Washington basketball, but Bertans looks terrible. He is shooting a Killian Hayes level 36 percent from the floor, 33 from deep. He got that huge contract for six months of real basketball. No thanks.
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Eh not a huge fan of bertans but like John Reese said I could see him becoming a asset once he starts shooting better again especially on a team like this were his numbers would be inflated a bit probably could get a low first.Sort wrote:I think the three or even four team trade seems likely to be honest. There will be a lot of moving pieces on the board comes trade deadline. I don't watch much Washington basketball, but Bertans looks terrible. He is shooting a Killian Hayes level 36 percent from the floor, 33 from deep. He got that huge contract for six months of real basketball. No thanks.
Also he's having a bad season but he isn't shooting anywhere close as bad as Hayes. Bertans has a .54ts while Hayes has a .44ts.
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mattao313 wrote:Eh not a huge fan of bertans but like John Reese said I could see him becoming a asset once he starts shooting better again especially on a team like this were his numbers would be inflated a bit probably could get a low first.Sort wrote:I think the three or even four team trade seems likely to be honest. There will be a lot of moving pieces on the board comes trade deadline. I don't watch much Washington basketball, but Bertans looks terrible. He is shooting a Killian Hayes level 36 percent from the floor, 33 from deep. He got that huge contract for six months of real basketball. No thanks.
Also he's having a bad season but he isn't shooting anywhere close as bad as Hayes. Bertans has a .54ts while Hayes has a .44ts.
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Faulty comparison.
If you're paying all that money for a guy who's only asset is shooting, he better actually be a great shooter. 54% for a veteran guy who's only asset is hitting threes is abysmal.
Obviously Killian is abysmal offensively, but he's still on a rookie deal.
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I brought it up a while ago, but seems worth bringing up again now that we have more info:
Grant for Myles Turner makes a lot of sense for both sides. The financials match. Both teams are purportedly looking for 2 first rounders for them, which means the value is theoretically the same. Both have some injury concerns. Both fill a need for the team wanting them. And now it sounds like Indiana is among the teams interested in Grant.
Getting Myles Turner would be huge for this team.
Grant for Myles Turner makes a lot of sense for both sides. The financials match. Both teams are purportedly looking for 2 first rounders for them, which means the value is theoretically the same. Both have some injury concerns. Both fill a need for the team wanting them. And now it sounds like Indiana is among the teams interested in Grant.
Getting Myles Turner would be huge for this team.
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Kalamazoo317 wrote:I brought it up a while ago, but seems worth bringing up again now that we have more info:
Grant for Myles Turner makes a lot of sense for both sides. The financials match. Both teams are purportedly looking for 2 first rounders for them, which means the value is theoretically the same. Both have some injury concerns. Both fill a need for the team wanting them. And now it sounds like Indiana is among the teams interested in Grant.
Getting Myles Turner would be huge for this team.
I don't really see the point for either team, actually. Both teams looking to rebuild.
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I'm not the one who made the comparison and I said bertans is having a bad season... But all in all he is still shooting better.Snakebites wrote:mattao313 wrote:Eh not a huge fan of bertans but like John Reese said I could see him becoming a asset once he starts shooting better again especially on a team like this were his numbers would be inflated a bit probably could get a low first.Sort wrote:I think the three or even four team trade seems likely to be honest. There will be a lot of moving pieces on the board comes trade deadline. I don't watch much Washington basketball, but Bertans looks terrible. He is shooting a Killian Hayes level 36 percent from the floor, 33 from deep. He got that huge contract for six months of real basketball. No thanks.
Also he's having a bad season but he isn't shooting anywhere close as bad as Hayes. Bertans has a .54ts while Hayes has a .44ts.
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Faulty comparison.
If you're paying all that money for a guy who's only asset is shooting, he better actually be a great shooter. 54% for a veteran guy who's only asset is hitting threes is abysmal.
Obviously Killian is abysmal offensively, but he's still on a rookie deal.
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It sounds like Pistons will get their choice from a few really good deals - don't screw it up!
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Personally out of all the teams rumoured to be strongly interested in Grant I hope we go with either a package from Chicago or Portland.
From Chicago I’d be keen on a package consisting of Williams, White and a pick.
From Portand Simons, Little and a pick.
Outside of that if Sacto would be willing to part with their 1st round pick unprotected plus Bagley and filler I’d pull the trigger too.
I don’t think this draft will be all that great so unless we can get a top 10 unprotected 1st I’d prefer to get some young interesting prospects. At this stage the Portland package is probably my favourite. Simons would be nice next to Cade and Little is starting to show us something too. Having a nucleus of Simons/Cade/Little/Bey/Holgrem (who I hope we draft) is a pretty exciting young lineup!
From Chicago I’d be keen on a package consisting of Williams, White and a pick.
From Portand Simons, Little and a pick.
Outside of that if Sacto would be willing to part with their 1st round pick unprotected plus Bagley and filler I’d pull the trigger too.
I don’t think this draft will be all that great so unless we can get a top 10 unprotected 1st I’d prefer to get some young interesting prospects. At this stage the Portland package is probably my favourite. Simons would be nice next to Cade and Little is starting to show us something too. Having a nucleus of Simons/Cade/Little/Bey/Holgrem (who I hope we draft) is a pretty exciting young lineup!
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Snakebites wrote:Kalamazoo317 wrote:I brought it up a while ago, but seems worth bringing up again now that we have more info:
Grant for Myles Turner makes a lot of sense for both sides. The financials match. Both teams are purportedly looking for 2 first rounders for them, which means the value is theoretically the same. Both have some injury concerns. Both fill a need for the team wanting them. And now it sounds like Indiana is among the teams interested in Grant.
Getting Myles Turner would be huge for this team.
I don't really see the point for either team, actually. Both teams looking to rebuild.
Turner is only 25 and we have a huge vacancy in terms of interior defense and scoring?
I get it that we are in a youth movement but there are far worse targets than Turner. Maybe the asking price is too high? But he is a passable 3pt shooter as well...
On Indy's side they've been having problems playing both Sabonis and Turner together apparently? Or maybe each plays better without the other.
Short of Indiana having a complete fire sale of its assets I would think slotting in Grant at the 4 next to Sabonis at center is a far better fit than Turner at 5 and Sabonis at 4.
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I’m still not too keen to trade grant, but I think turner would be a good get. I’m not seeing many great returns from many other teams outside of p Williams,
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Kalamazoo317 wrote:I brought it up a while ago, but seems worth bringing up again now that we have more info:
Grant for Myles Turner makes a lot of sense for both sides. The financials match. Both teams are purportedly looking for 2 first rounders for them, which means the value is theoretically the same. Both have some injury concerns. Both fill a need for the team wanting them. And now it sounds like Indiana is among the teams interested in Grant.
Getting Myles Turner would be huge for this team.
I think it makes a lot of sense for the Pistons, don't really see what it does for the Pacers who are looking at a scorched earth rebuild, basically where the Pistons were two years ago before they blew it up.
It might make sense for Grant who wants to keep a bigger role, but I don't see what the Pacers get out of it unless they flip him elsewhere for futures.
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NYPiston wrote:Kalamazoo317 wrote:I brought it up a while ago, but seems worth bringing up again now that we have more info:
Grant for Myles Turner makes a lot of sense for both sides. The financials match. Both teams are purportedly looking for 2 first rounders for them, which means the value is theoretically the same. Both have some injury concerns. Both fill a need for the team wanting them. And now it sounds like Indiana is among the teams interested in Grant.
Getting Myles Turner would be huge for this team.
I think it makes a lot of sense for the Pistons, don't really see what it does for the Pacers who are looking at a scorched earth rebuild, basically where the Pistons were two years ago before they blew it up.
It might make sense for Grant who wants to keep a bigger role, but I don't see what the Pacers get out of it unless they flip him elsewhere for futures.
Are the Pacers scorched earth rebuilding? That's the few other owners that's also cheap as hell and they don't tank, only retool
I can see them trading Turner and rebooting with Sabonis, assuming he wants to stay. Grant and Sabonis along with Brogdon & whoever is a decent threat for a perpetual 5 to 8 seed for a few years
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Are the Pacers scorched earth rebuilding? That's the few other owners that's also cheap as hell and they don't tank, only retool
I can see them trading Turner and rebooting with Sabonis, assuming he wants to stay. Grant and Sabonis along with Brogdon & whoever is a decent threat for a perpetual 5 to 8 seed for a few years
Indiana has everybody on the trade block outside of Brogdon for some reason. It appears that they are in tear down mode so I think any trade they make will be for futures.
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Yet they are continually listed as a team interested in Grant. Let’s see how this all plays out.
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First, I wouldn't be surprised if Indiana makes no real moves. Status quo for them!
Second, Turner is exactly the kind of athletic, rim to rim, blocking, stretch five Pistons need, and while his screen setting has never amazed me, his pick n roll/pop with Cade would be outstanding. He fits so much better with Cade than anything we have right now. That would be a no-brainer to me. His game has been curtailed with the wreck of Indiana.
Even if it's not to Detroit, I am hoping he gets traded.
And to backtrack for a moment - I come here once or twice a day - I compared Bertrans to Killian only to make a point for how inept Bertrans's shot has been this year. Both are very bad players, but one is getting paid 16 mil going forward and one is basically a rookie.
Why anyone would want a shooter that has lost his shooting touch is beyond me. Washington will be stuck with him unless they're giving away draft picks.
Second, Turner is exactly the kind of athletic, rim to rim, blocking, stretch five Pistons need, and while his screen setting has never amazed me, his pick n roll/pop with Cade would be outstanding. He fits so much better with Cade than anything we have right now. That would be a no-brainer to me. His game has been curtailed with the wreck of Indiana.
Even if it's not to Detroit, I am hoping he gets traded.
And to backtrack for a moment - I come here once or twice a day - I compared Bertrans to Killian only to make a point for how inept Bertrans's shot has been this year. Both are very bad players, but one is getting paid 16 mil going forward and one is basically a rookie.
Why anyone would want a shooter that has lost his shooting touch is beyond me. Washington will be stuck with him unless they're giving away draft picks.
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Bertans is having a down season but I don't see how the guy goes from and elite 3pt shooter to totally losing his shooting touch for the rest of his career.Sort wrote:First, I wouldn't be surprised if Indiana makes no real moves. Status quo for them!
Second, Turner is exactly the kind of athletic, rim to rim, blocking, stretch five Pistons need, and while his screen setting has never amazed me, his pick n roll/pop with Cade would be outstanding. He fits so much better with Cade than anything we have right now. That would be a no-brainer to me. His game has been curtailed with the wreck of Indiana.
Even if it's not to Detroit, I am hoping he gets traded.
And to backtrack for a moment - I come here once or twice a day - I compared Bertrans to Killian only to make a point for how inept Bertrans's shot has been this year. Both are very bad players, but one is getting paid 16 mil going forward and one is basically a rookie.
Why anyone would want a shooter that has lost his shooting touch is beyond me. Washington will be stuck with him unless they're giving away draft picks.
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Scotto: Yossi, you touched on Jake’s reporting. I also heard one of Detroit’s offers for Ben Simmons was slightly different, with the package being Jerami Grant, Saddiq Bey and Josh Jackson straight up for Ben Simmons, which was rejected. Currently, Philadelphia doesn’t view Detroit as a trade partner for Simmons. Among the teams still keeping tabs on Simmons in the trade market are the Sacramento Kings, Atlanta Hawks, Minnesota Timberwolves, Portland Trail Blazers, Toronto Raptors, and Indiana Pacers.
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Grant and Turner have similar deals, right? I'd rather extend Turner as a long term piece. Just a question of him wanting to come here and sign a deal. I think he'd fit in really well.
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I love any report that says we're not a suitor for Simmons. No interest.
They're both 2 years. Jerami is 20 mill and Turner is 18 mill.
Everyone else already answered what I would've about Turner: he's 25, he fits incredibly with Cade, and he fills the biggest needs this team has at the 5 (rim protection, a center who can space the floor and work the interior, etc.). I'd want Turner on the team for the same reason that I want to start Kelly O when he comes back, except I think Turner is young enough and good enough to be around when we're ready to contend, so long as we can convince him to stick with us.
Laimbeer wrote:Grant and Turner have similar deals, right? I'd rather extend Turner as a long term piece. Just a question of him wanting to come here and sign a deal. I think he'd fit in really well.
They're both 2 years. Jerami is 20 mill and Turner is 18 mill.
Everyone else already answered what I would've about Turner: he's 25, he fits incredibly with Cade, and he fills the biggest needs this team has at the 5 (rim protection, a center who can space the floor and work the interior, etc.). I'd want Turner on the team for the same reason that I want to start Kelly O when he comes back, except I think Turner is young enough and good enough to be around when we're ready to contend, so long as we can convince him to stick with us.