The Trade Thread - v2

fekz · Post #421 » by **fekz** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 7:55 pm

DETermination wrote:I would love to do a Monroe for Batum trade, I feel like Batum would be the perfect player at small forward for us.

I think either deal is exponentially better than what we current are working with.

DETermination · Post #422 » by **DETermination** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 8:42 pm

I just want a monroe or smith trade to happen already!

vic · Post #423 » by **vic** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 1:46 am

How about this:

Sac gets: Rondo, Smith
Bos gets: jennings, Sac #1 pic
Det gets: Isaiah, Bos #1 pic

Piston Pete · Post #424 » by **Piston Pete** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 3:59 am

vic wrote:How about this:

Sac gets: Rondo, Smith
Bos gets: jennings, Sac #1 pic
Det gets: Isaiah, Bos #1 pic

More like...

Sac gets: Rondo, Smith
Bos gets: Jennings, McLemore, Mitchell
Det gets: IsaiahThomas, Green

sdballer · Post #425 » by **sdballer** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 4:20 am

Piston Pete wrote:
vic wrote:How about this:

Sac gets: Rondo, Smith
Bos gets: jennings, Sac #1 pic
Det gets: Isaiah, Bos #1 pic

More like...

Sac gets: Rondo, Smith
Bos gets: Jennings, McLemore, Mitchell
Det gets: IsaiahThomas, Green

Sac would probably need to send out more salary.

ducler · Post #426 » by **ducler** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 4:23 am

^
Multiple scenarios are possible:

DET in: Thomas, Green, Thompson

BOS in: McLemore, Singler, Bynum, Kings 1st

SAC in: Rondo, Smith

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Then trade Jennings for picks.

Sign Nelson.

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Drummond/Monroe/Thompson
Monroe/Thompson/Jerebko
Green/Jerebko/Datome
KCP/Meeks/Martin
Thomas/Nelson/Siva/Dinwiddie

NCHeels2008 · Post #427 » by **NCHeels2008** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 8:55 am

if the clippers lose collison and add pierce i wonder if they would want to do something around jennings for dudley/bullock

blind prophet · Post #428 » by **blind prophet** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 4:12 pm

Sac signed Darren Collison.

Now I'm wondering if IT + Thompson, + Williams deal would work for Smith. If Williams is too much substitute Outlaw.

I would have tried to insist Landry go back to you guys, but we have less leverage after the Collison signing.

ImHeisenberg · Post #429 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 4:14 pm

blind prophet wrote:Sac signed Darren Collison.

Now I'm wondering if IT + Thompson, + Williams deal would work for Smith. If Williams is too much substitute Outlaw.

I would have tried to insist Landry go back to you guys, but we have less leverage after the Collison trade.

I'm still not 100% sure whether Sacramento can trade players along with Thomas in the same deal or not?

Otherwise, I'm really hoping this happens. The Collison deal definitely signals that Sacramento are moving on from Thomas- that much is certain. Ray McCallum was something of a revelation for them last season, and his cheap salary certainly keeps them in their future plans.

Also- A deal of Thomas and either Thompson or Williams works salary wise. If Thomas was making $8 million, then the combined salary of all 3 would be close to $20 million.

coordinator0 · Post #430 » by **coordinator0** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 4:21 pm

Smith's salary this season is $13.5 million and adding Thompson or Landry to Thomas' assumed $8 million deal would add up to $14-14.5 million. No need for Williams or any other extra contracts.

coordinator0 · Post #431 » by **coordinator0** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 4:25 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:
blind prophet wrote:Sac signed Darren Collison.

Now I'm wondering if IT + Thompson, + Williams deal would work for Smith. If Williams is too much substitute Outlaw.

I would have tried to insist Landry go back to you guys, but we have less leverage after the Collison trade.

I'm still not 100% sure whether Sacramento can trade players along with Thomas in the same deal or not?

Otherwise, I'm really hoping this happens. The Collison deal definitely signals that Sacramento are moving on from Thomas- that much is certain. Ray McCallum was something of a revelation for them last season, and his cheap salary certainly keeps them in their future plans.

Also- A deal of Thomas and either Thompson or Williams works salary wise. If Thomas was making $8 million, then the combined salary of all 3 would be close to $20 million.

The was a chat with Larry Coon a little while before the draft and I asked about that. He said it's allowable.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/chat/ ... oon-61314/

Can a team send more than one player out in a sign-and-trade? For example, Detroit trading Greg Monroe and Brandon Jennings in one deal this summer.

Larry Coon
Sure, the “trade” part of a sign-and-trade is just like any other trade. It’s the “signing” part of the deal that has additional restrictions — the contract must be for at least three seasons, at least the first season must be fully guaranteed, and the deal is voided if the player isn’t trade within 48 hours.

MotownMadness · Post #432 » by **MotownMadness** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 4:26 pm

blind prophet wrote:Sac signed Darren Collison.

Now I'm wondering if IT + Thompson, + Williams deal would work for Smith. If Williams is too much substitute Outlaw.

I would have tried to insist Landry go back to you guys, but we have less leverage after the Collison signing.

I heard somewhere a few weeks back that SVG actually prefers Landry over Thompson which seems kinda strange to me.

blind prophet · Post #433 » by **blind prophet** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 4:28 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
blind prophet wrote:Sac signed Darren Collison.

Now I'm wondering if IT + Thompson, + Williams deal would work for Smith. If Williams is too much substitute Outlaw.

I would have tried to insist Landry go back to you guys, but we have less leverage after the Collison signing.

I heard somewhere a few weeks back that SVG actually prefers Landry over Thompson which seems kinda strange to me.

Either or works for me, Landry out is better IMO for the Kings.

But there is all ready a rumor we use the stretch and waive someone else.

So possible more to come scenario, IT drama could continue a bit longer.

engelbert321 · Post #434 » by **engelbert321** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 4:30 pm

coordinator0 wrote:Smith's salary this season is $13.5 million and adding Thompson or Landry to Thomas' assumed $8 million deal would add up to $14-14.5 million. No need for Williams or any other extra contracts.

Send out JJ. I like Williams as a prospect and could still flourish here

blind prophet · Post #435 » by **blind prophet** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 5:03 pm

We may need to try and get a third team involved with a Smith deal, Thornton in Nets land makes similar loot as Jennings and expires, Kings and you guys would probably have to figure out some incentive for them somehow.

sfballa13 · Post #436 » by **sfballa13** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 5:37 pm

Who in the hell are the Pacers gonna trade for Dragic?

If anything we can offer much better pieces to Suns than the Pacers can.

Jennings, KCP, and a future 1st is better than anything Pacers can come up with unless they are trading George to them, which the arent

We need to get in on a Dragic trade if he is available

StickAndMove · Post #437 » by **StickAndMove** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 8:56 pm

DET trades: Josh Smith
BKN trades: Kevin Garnett

BKN improves immediately (every move they've made since Prokhorov bought the team has been in the win-now mindset)

DET gets out of the J-Smoove contract

KG agrees to waive his no-trade clause only under the condition that SVG promises to release him immediately, allowing Garnett to choose where he wants to play, sign for the minimum, and still make $12M next year(the rest of the money coming from the Pistons)

Piston Pete · Post #438 » by **Piston Pete** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:01 pm

Smith/Datome

for

Thomas/Williams

Piston Pete · Post #439 » by **Piston Pete** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:16 pm

With Frye opting out, and the Suns having cap space to throw major money at guys still, a S&T idea:

Monroe, Smith, Singler

for

Dragic, Parsons, Len

They become:

Bledsoe / Smith
Green / Goodwin
Tucker / Singler / Morris
Smith / Morris / Warren
Monroe / Plumlee / Randolph

GreekAlex · Post #440 » by **GreekAlex** » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:53 pm

Piston Pete wrote:With Frye opting out, and the Suns having cap space to throw major money at guys still, a S&T idea:

Monroe, Smith, Singler

for

Dragic, Parsons, Len

They become:

Bledsoe / Smith
Green / Goodwin
Tucker / Singler / Morris
Smith / Morris / Warren
Monroe / Plumlee / Randolph

Is there a Parsons on the Suns?