2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft

[MotownMadness]

Man I switch my top 4 in this draft every week but Mobley might actually be the best player in the draft. He really does look like a Anthony Davis type, except Davis didnt have this type of offensive skillset at that age.

[The Moose]

Man I switch my top 4 in this draft everytime week but Mobley might actually be the best player in the draft. He really does look like a Anthony Davis type, except Davis didnt have this type of offensive skillset at that age.

he's my #1

honestly I have Kuminga over Cade too, but I'd be ecstatic with any of the 3

[vic]

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you can't go wrong with 1, 2, or 3 in this draft. Mobley/Cade/Kumina (Big/Guard/Wing). Very few weaknesses.

The only question to ask if you get a top 3 pick is:
which player brings your specific roster closest to a championship?

Think 2-way impact, defense and playmaking.

[Piston Pete]

Mobley is similar to Davis.

A little less in defense
More in offense

But what worries me is that, unlike Davis, Mobley doesn’t have much frame to add weight onto. Not that it’s a huge flaw (see Christian Wood), but a flaw nonetheless.

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[buzzkilloton]

Man I switch my top 4 in this draft every week but Mobley might actually be the best player in the draft. He really does look like a Anthony Davis type, except Davis didnt have this type of offensive skillset at that age.

I feel like he has the highest floor of any propsect.

Cades still my 1 though.

1.Cade
2.Mobley
3.Kuminga

[JohnReese]

1.Cade
2.Suggs
3.Mobley

4. Green
5. Kuminga

Cade is the most complete player but I do not like the pairing with Hayes. However, you do not pass on an elite talent due to Hayes. Suggs looks like a perfect fit.

[mattao313]

Greens athleticism is special and he still has ball skills. Cade is really good but he looks stuck to the ground some times I could be wrong tho cause I really liked Tatum coming out but he looked the same way and is doing fine. We just need to get one of these top guys I'm so tired of pick 7, 8, 9 lmao

[NYPiston]

Mobley is similar to Davis.

A little less in defense
More in offense

But what worries me is that, unlike Davis, Mobley doesn’t have much frame to add weight onto. Not that it’s a huge flaw (see Christian Wood), but a flaw nonetheless.

It's the other ways around actually, Mobley is a little better defensively and not as good offensively as Davis. I'd be shocked if Mobley is ever as good offensively as Davis is.

My concern with Mobley is that he's really skinny and gets pushed around in the paint fairly easily even by college players. I know that the modern NBA big doesn't play in the post much anymore but physicality hasn't completely disappeared from the sport so he'll need to bulk up some in the coming years to reach his potential. I think he's a lock to be a great defender at the NBA level but I question his offensive upside and killer instinct.

[DetroitSho]

Mobley is similar to Davis.

A little less in defense
More in offense

But what worries me is that, unlike Davis, Mobley doesn’t have much frame to add weight onto. Not that it’s a huge flaw (see Christian Wood), but a flaw nonetheless.

It's the other ways around actually, Mobley is a little better defensively and not as good offensively as Davis. I'd be shocked if Mobley is ever as good offensively as Davis is.

My concern with Mobley is that he's really skinny and gets pushed around in the paint fairly easily even by college players. I know that the modern NBA big doesn't play in the post much anymore but physicality hasn't completely disappeared from the sport so he'll need to bulk up some in the coming years to reach his potential. I think he's a lock to be a great defender at the NBA level but I question his offensive upside and killer instinct.

Are you comparing college Mobley to present day Davis or something? Davis didn't show much offense in college.

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[NYPiston]

Are you comparing college Mobley to present day Davis or something? Davis didn't show much offense in college.

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I think Davis was a little more polished offensively in college. His outside shot clearly needed work but you can see that he had the tools to be really explode offensively at the next level.

I don't think Mobley has the offensive potential that Davis had.

[Piston Pete]

I was thinking more inline with DetroitSho.

Davis was GREAT defensively at Kentucky, and pretty raw offensively. He showed offensive glimpses, but he wasn’t great there offensively by any means.

At UK, he only averaged 14/10
Mobley is currently at 17/9

[MotownMadness]

Yeah no, I was never even expecting Davis to be such a offensive weapon at the next level. His biggest impact was his defense for sure. Even his first year in the league he was only like a 13 and 8 player and then just blew up.

Mobley has damn near a complete offensive arsenal as a 7 footer while also being a good defender.

[NYPiston]

I was thinking more inline with DetroitSho.

Davis was GREAT defensively at Kentucky, and pretty raw offensively. He showed offensive glimpses, but he wasn’t great there offensively by any means.

At UK, he only averaged 14/10
Mobley is currently at 17/9

I'm not talking about numbers, I'm talking about skillset. I know that Davis wasn't great offensively at Kentucky but you can see the tools were there to be really good offensively at the NBA level once he gained experience.

Mobley does not have the offensive tools that Davis did IMO. He's a better outside shooter than Davis was at the same age though.
I don't see Mobley being more than a 20/10 guy at the next level, I don't see him being the lead dog offensively either. I don't see "take over" offense mentality with him but I do see him being a defensive player of the year candidate for many years. Defense will be his main calling card IMO but you never know I guess.

[MotownMadness]

I was thinking more inline with DetroitSho.

Davis was GREAT defensively at Kentucky, and pretty raw offensively. He showed offensive glimpses, but he wasn’t great there offensively by any means.

At UK, he only averaged 14/10
Mobley is currently at 17/9

I'm not talking about numbers, I'm talking about skillset. I know that Davis wasn't great offensively at Kentucky but you can see the tools were there to be really good offensively at the NBA level once he gained experience.

Mobley does not have the offensive tools that Davis did IMO. He's a better outside shooter than Davis was at the same age though.
I don't see Mobley being more than a 20/10 guy at the next level, I don't see him being the lead dog offensively either. I don't see "take over" offense mentality with him but I do see him being a defensive player of the year candidate for many years. Defense will be his main calling card IMO but you never know I guess.

I just dont get why you think Mobley doesnt have aoffensive skillset. He displays alot Inside, midrange and outside. Hes he hook shots, stepbacks, faceup, soft touch, he can play above the rim or under, good ball handling, displays some good passing, good FT shooter. Hes also one of the best big man defender in college.

Hes like the ultimate 2 way unicorn and once he bulks up he will be a force

[NYPiston]

I just dont get why you think Mobley doesnt have aoffensive skillset. He displays alot Inside, midrange and outside. Hes he hook shots, stepbacks, faceup, soft touch, he can play above the rim or under, good FT shooter. Hes also one of the best big man defender in college.

Hes like the ultimate 2 way unicorn and once he bulks up he will be a force

He has a nice offensive skillset but I don't think he has the mentality to be a #1 offensive option in the NBA like Davis, Jokic and Embiid are. He doesn't seem to have the killer instinct that those guys do.

BTW, me saying that he'll be a 20/10 guy isn't an insult, that's a very nice player. I just don't see him being an elite offensive driver at the NBA level. I'm very open to be wrong though, he's still so young so obviously there's tons of growth left in his game.

[DetroitSho]

I just dont get why you think Mobley doesnt have aoffensive skillset. He displays alot Inside, midrange and outside. Hes he hook shots, stepbacks, faceup, soft touch, he can play above the rim or under, good FT shooter. Hes also one of the best big man defender in college.

Hes like the ultimate 2 way unicorn and once he bulks up he will be a force

He has a nice offensive skillset but I don't think he has the mentality to be a #1 offensive option in the NBA like Davis, Jokic and Embiid are. He doesn't seem to have the killer instinct that those guys do.

BTW, me saying that he'll be a 20/10 guy isn't an insult, that's a very nice player. I just don't see him being an elite offensive driver at the NBA level. I'm very open to be wrong though, he's still so young so obviously there's tons of growth left in his game.

Bro have you watched Anthony Davis. He's the most frustrating player for me today. HE doesn't have this killer instinct, #1 lead dog mentality either. He's a super sidekick.

I'm still curious what skillset he showed in college that Mobley hasn't.

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[NYPiston]

Bro have you watched Anthony Davis. He's the most frustrating player for me today. HE doesn't have this killer instinct, #1 lead dog mentality either. He's a super sidekick.

I'm still curious what skillset he showed in college that Mobley hasn't.

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He's been the go to scorer on his team most of his career until he teamed with LeBron, who are you watching? The guy has been a 25+ point scorer for years.
The only people who are frustrated with him are people who think he needs to dominate like Shaq inside in order to be validated and, yes, he can be a bit soft at times but he's a legit MVP caliber player. He's one of the best talented big man scorers to ever play.

Mobley to me is a guy who isn't a primary offensive force, he's not a guy who has take over mentality in the offensive end. I saw some of that with Davis in college even though the results were inconsistent. Maybe Mobley can grow into that guy but it's not what I see from him thus far in college, he tends to fade into the background offensively and gets lots of offense from the creation of others and transition buckets. He does have a nice stroke though.

As I said, I could very well be wrong since he has a lot of room to grow but I'm not as big on his offensive upside as some others are. I like other guys better in this draft.

[DetroitSho]

Bro have you watched Anthony Davis. He's the most frustrating player for me today. HE doesn't have this killer instinct, #1 lead dog mentality either. He's a super sidekick.

I'm still curious what skillset he showed in college that Mobley hasn't.

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He's been the go to scorer on his team most of his career until he teamed with LeBron, who are you watching? The guy has been a 25+ point scorer for years.
The only people who are frustrated with him are people who think he needs to dominate like Shaq inside in order to be validated and, yes, he can be a bit soft at times but he's a legit MVP caliber player. He's one of the best talented big man scorers to ever play.

Mobley to me is a guy who isn't a primary offensive force, he's not a guy who has take over mentality in the offensive end. I saw some of that with Davis in college even though the results were inconsistent. Maybe Mobley can grow into that guy but it's not what I see from him thus far in college, he tends to fade into the background offensively and gets lots of offense from the creation of others and transition buckets. He does have a nice stroke though.

As I said, I could very well be wrong since he has a lot of room to grow but I'm not as big on his offensive upside as some others are. I like other guys better in this draft.

Jerami Grant is a 24 point scorer on this team. Guys with talent will be able score and/or be the #1 options on teams. That's the easier part. But he's not a true #1 scorer on a championship level where he's clear cut superior to the #2 guy. Even Chris Bosh put up consistent 20+ point/10 rebound seasons on first round losers. You're holding him to a standard of Davis that doesn't even exist.

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[Piston Pete]

As college freshmen, both were/are studs.

Davis had a slight edge defensively over Mobely.
Mobley has the edge over Davis offensively.
Davis had the better frame to add muscle onto.