2020-2021 NBA Prospects/ NBA Draft

[mattao313]

Bro have you watched Anthony Davis. He's the most frustrating player for me today. HE doesn't have this killer instinct, #1 lead dog mentality either. He's a super sidekick.

I'm still curious what skillset he showed in college that Mobley hasn't.

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He's been the go to scorer on his team most of his career until he teamed with LeBron, who are you watching? The guy has been a 25+ point scorer for years.
The only people who are frustrated with him are people who think he needs to dominate like Shaq inside in order to be validated and, yes, he can be a bit soft at times but he's a legit MVP caliber player. He's one of the best talented big man scorers to ever play.

Mobley to me is a guy who isn't a primary offensive force, he's not a guy who has take over mentality in the offensive end. I saw some of that with Davis in college even though the results were inconsistent. Maybe Mobley can grow into that guy but it's not what I see from him thus far in college, he tends to fade into the background offensively and gets lots of offense from the creation of others and transition buckets. He does have a nice stroke though.

As I said, I could very well be wrong since he has a lot of room to grow but I'm not as big on his offensive upside as some others are. I like other guys better in this draft.

Jerami Grant is a 24 point scorer on this team. Guys with talent will be able score and/or be the #1 options on teams. That's the easier part. But he's not a true #1 scorer on a championship level where he's clear cut superior to the #2 guy. Even Chris Bosh put up consistent 20+ point/10 rebound seasons on first round losers. You're holding him to a standard of Davis that doesn't even exist.

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Anthony Davis is a legit scorer he even put up 27ppg In the playoffs last season. Mobley is closer to Chris bosh than Davis who is a top scoring option in the league. Davis problem is staying healthy he's a mvp caliber player NOP did a terrible job building anything around him.

[BJK1]

I like the Bosh comp for Mobley.

[MotownMadness]

Yeah Chris Bosh is another good comp as well.

[Piston Pete]

Yeah, Mobley is a mix of Davis and Bosh

[buzzkilloton]

I just dont get why you think Mobley doesnt have aoffensive skillset. He displays alot Inside, midrange and outside. Hes he hook shots, stepbacks, faceup, soft touch, he can play above the rim or under, good FT shooter. Hes also one of the best big man defender in college.

Hes like the ultimate 2 way unicorn and once he bulks up he will be a force

He has a nice offensive skillset but I don't think he has the mentality to be a #1 offensive option in the NBA like Davis, Jokic and Embiid are. He doesn't seem to have the killer instinct that those guys do.

BTW, me saying that he'll be a 20/10 guy isn't an insult, that's a very nice player. I just don't see him being an elite offensive driver at the NBA level. I'm very open to be wrong though, he's still so young so obviously there's tons of growth left in his game.

Bro have you watched Anthony Davis. He's the most frustrating player for me today. HE doesn't have this killer instinct, #1 lead dog mentality either. He's a super sidekick.

I'm still curious what skillset he showed in college that Mobley hasn't.

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AD doesnt have "killer instinct". This narrative is such BS. Have you looked at his playoff numbers?

1st time 31.5 11 reb 3block 54% shooting
2nd time-30.1 13.4 reb 2.3 block 52% shooting wins the Pel a sereis
3rd time-27.7 ppg 9.7reb shoots 38% from 3 as his game as evolved and wins a title

[DetroitSho]

He has a nice offensive skillset but I don't think he has the mentality to be a #1 offensive option in the NBA like Davis, Jokic and Embiid are. He doesn't seem to have the killer instinct that those guys do.

BTW, me saying that he'll be a 20/10 guy isn't an insult, that's a very nice player. I just don't see him being an elite offensive driver at the NBA level. I'm very open to be wrong though, he's still so young so obviously there's tons of growth left in his game.

Bro have you watched Anthony Davis. He's the most frustrating player for me today. HE doesn't have this killer instinct, #1 lead dog mentality either. He's a super sidekick.

I'm still curious what skillset he showed in college that Mobley hasn't.

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AD doesnt have "killer instinct". This narrative is such BS. Have you looked at his playoff numbers?

1st time 31.5 11 reb 3block 54% shooting
2nd time-30.1 13.4 reb 2.3 block 52% shooting wins the Pel a sereis
3rd time-27.7 ppg 9.7reb shoots 38% from 3 as his game as evolved and wins a title

Harden doesn't have killer instinct. Now look up his numbers. Killer instinct is a mentality not a skillset.

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[buzzkilloton]

Bro have you watched Anthony Davis. He's the most frustrating player for me today. HE doesn't have this killer instinct, #1 lead dog mentality either. He's a super sidekick.

I'm still curious what skillset he showed in college that Mobley hasn't.

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AD doesnt have "killer instinct". This narrative is such BS. Have you looked at his playoff numbers?

1st time 31.5 11 reb 3block 54% shooting
2nd time-30.1 13.4 reb 2.3 block 52% shooting wins the Pel a sereis
3rd time-27.7 ppg 9.7reb shoots 38% from 3 as his game as evolved and wins a title

Harden doesn't have killer instinct. Now look up his numbers. Killer instinct is a mentality not a skillset.

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This "killer instinct" is a narrative fans make up when guys havent been on title winning teams. Lebron used to get this he doesnt have "killer instinct" talk. These guys who're at the top of the NBA have been taking big shots and winning their entire lifes they dont get to that MVP level by being soft.

[DetroitSho]

AD doesnt have "killer instinct". This narrative is such BS. Have you looked at his playoff numbers?

1st time 31.5 11 reb 3block 54% shooting
2nd time-30.1 13.4 reb 2.3 block 52% shooting wins the Pel a sereis
3rd time-27.7 ppg 9.7reb shoots 38% from 3 as his game as evolved and wins a title

Harden doesn't have killer instinct. Now look up his numbers. Killer instinct is a mentality not a skillset.

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This "killer instinct" is a narrative fans make up when guys havent been on title winning teams. Lebron used to get this he doesnt have "killer instinct" talk. These guys who're at the top of the NBA have been taking big shots and winning their entire lifes they dont get to that MVP level by being soft.

Yeah the person arguing in favor brought up killer instinct and how Davis has it. Maybe you should direct that to him.

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[Piston Pete]

Watching the USC/Arizona game right now.

They are comparing Mobley to a Bosh/Duncan hybrid

[Pharaoh]

No pressure on Mobley lol

Compared to Duncan, Bosh & AD

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[vic]

Lol... I've said before, he actually reminds me of Bill Russell mixed with Chris Bosh.
That's like 13 chips - No pressure tho

[DNice68]

Mobley
Suggs
Green
Cunningham
Kuminga

That’s my preference!

[SamFlow]

keep running the draft lottery sim. Keep getting 5 the most and many times 6. I'll be so pissed if we drop out of the top five.

[Pharaoh]

Actually think their SIM is flawed as we usually fall to 5 or 6 regardless of how many times I do it or when

keep running the draft lottery sim. Keep getting 5 the most and many times 6. I'll be so pissed if we drop out of the top five.

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[MotownMadness]

Actually think their SIM is flawed as we usually fall to 5 or 6 regardless of how many times I do it or when

keep running the draft lottery sim. Keep getting 5 the most and many times 6. I'll be so pissed if we drop out of the top five.

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Same here, we always drop to 5 or 6

[BJK1]

keep running the draft lottery sim. Keep getting 5 the most and many times 6. I'll be so pissed if we drop out of the top five.

Same here. Took me about 12 tries to get to #1. Got to #2 on my fifth “spin.” Majority of spins landed #5 or #6.

[whitehops]

Actually think their SIM is flawed as we usually fall to 5 or 6 regardless of how many times I do it or when

it's not flawed, those are the new odds.

right now we're second last in the league. the single most likely spot we end up in is 5th (27.8% chance). the next highest? 6th, at ~20%. we only have a 12-14% chance to land on any of the 1st-4th picks. the timberwolves have the worst record and they have the exact same chances as we do at any of the top 4 picks, the only difference is that 5th is the lowest they can go but they have a 47.8% chance of drafting there (the same odds as us falling out of the top 4, just combining our 5th and 6th place odds).

no matter which spot in the last three we land, we're still almost as likely to draft out of the top 4 as we are to draft in it. it's pretty much a 52%/48% split. even if you have the worst record you still only have a 40% chance of drafting in the top 3. it's part of the reason why i'm not too mad when we pick up wins against good teams, it's much more important for the players to learn to win those games than very marginally increase our odds (which are capped anyways).

there's a graph here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery#Chances_of_winning

[ComboGuardCity]

Interesting I thought 1-3 had the same odds but apparently it’s only the same odds for #1?

[zeebneeb]

Interesting I thought 1-3 had the same odds but apparently it’s only the same odds for #1?

Yup. This is why if your going for a top pick, you want the best odds possible not to drop lower the 5th(worst record)or 6th(2nd worst record)as we currently are sitting.

If the Pistons end up with the 3rd, 4th, or 5th worst record, prepare for another disappointing lottery selection.

I would feel absolutely okay with a top 3 pick. 4 is pushing it, and 5 and under, well, screw it again I guess. This team needs to select a monster to really go anywhere. Pretty solid foundation right now, looking for the homerun.

[DNice68]

Interesting I thought 1-3 had the same odds but apparently it’s only the same odds for #1?

Yup. This is why if your going for a top pick, you want the best odds possible not to drop lower the 5th(worst record)or 6th(2nd worst record)as we currently are sitting.

If the Pistons end up with the 3rd, 4th, or 5th worst record, prepare for another disappointing lottery selection.

I would feel absolutely okay with a top 3 pick. 4 is pushing it, and 5 and under, well, screw it again I guess. This team needs to select a monster to really go anywhere. Pretty solid foundation right now, looking for the homerun.

1 through 5 is fine to me. If we fell to 6 or 7 in the lottery, I will punch the guy who lives down the street from me!